Tx. bill would put women to death for....

[dondub]

Dear Rep. Tinderholt,

Please shut off The Handmaid's Tale and put down the clicker. It's supposed to be dystopian fiction and not Texxass next week.

[happyhoix]

Apr 10, 2019 12:58:24 GMT -5 @x said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:56:15 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Clearly.  More importantly, women have a lot more options, and the sports-obsessed, beer-drinking fishermen are not going to be high on the list.  It may be tough a lot of the time to find a GOOD option, but most women always have options.  A lot of men don't.  They may never find anyone who wants to be with them.  And face it, women get booty-called because they're home.  Men get booty-called because they're good.  Women have more options.      

But they never understand not being wanted, a women scorned and all.

Just not on their ego radar. 

Clearly, you've never actually known any women in your lifetime.

Any woman who does not meet either the stick figured super model type or the buxom, perky cheerleader type knows what it means to 'not be wanted.' Once females hit the magical middle ages, they actually become completely invisible except if they are admins, waitresses or your mom, except for those few women who have the great genes or great fortune to invest in the superstructure enhancements/personal trainer required to pull off the image of dewy youth.

Men, on the other hand, can grow several layers of love handles, form an aggressive comb over to make up for lost hair on top, walk around with an obnoxious, overbearing personality and if they have a lot of money, can lure playboy models and porn stars into their beds.

[weltschmerz]

Apr 10, 2019 10:02:08 GMT -5 busymom said:

Lets turn the conversation around.  How about the death penalty, automatically, for any man who rapes, including college frat boys?  And, don't forget pedophiles.  

No, rape is fine. Just force the woman to marry her rapist. It's in the bible.

[weltschmerz]

Apr 10, 2019 12:24:27 GMT -5 @x said:

Apr 10, 2019 10:15:33 GMT -5 tallguy said:

No better proof that he is an expert on being "more personally responsible."   

Personally responsible for escaping marriage from unpleasant women, who reverted back to their nasty selves, after the vows ?

Just trying your logic on for size. 

What's the common denominator of all five marriages? He is. He's the problem, despite your assertions that these women were unpleasant and reverted back to their "nasty selves".
What a misogynistic and repulsive thing to say.

[weltschmerz]

Apr 10, 2019 9:40:56 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Yep, and "they" said it could never happen here....well folks, here it is...

Men and women, young and old, native Texans and immigrants, they rose to ask lawmakers to protect life, describing a “genocide” and foreseeing the arrival of “God’s wrath.”



The act of public atonement they are seeking is passage of a bill that would criminalize abortion without exception, and make it possible to convict women who undergo the procedure of homicide, which can carry the death penalty in Texas. Though it faces steep odds of becoming law, the measure earned a hearing this week amid a larger legislative push in GOP-controlled states to curtail abortion rights, in a direct challenge to Roe v. Wade.



The legislation is the brainchild of state Rep. Tony Tinderholt, a Republican from Arlington, Tex., who was placed under state protection because of death threats he received when he first introduced the bill in 2017. The Air Force veteran, who has been married five times, argues that the measure is necessary to make women “more personally responsible.” He said Tuesday that his intention is to guarantee “equal protection” for life inside and "outside the womb.”





Some of his supporters see the issue in even more fateful terms.



“God’s word says, ‘He who sheds man’s blood, by man — the civil government — his blood will be shed,’” said Sonya Gonnella, quoting the Book of Genesis and asking lawmakers to “repent with us.”



Announcing herself as a “follower of the lord Jesus Christ,” Gonnella was among hundreds of people who testified in a marathon hearing that stretched from Monday into early Tuesday before the Texas House’s Committee on Judiciary and Civil Jurisprudence.

www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/10/texas-bill-would-make-it-possible-put-women-death-having-abortions/?utm_term=.7d33ac73532c

The industrialized world is going forward in leaps and bounds, while the USA is determined to plow, full steam ahead, back to the 12th century.

[dondub]

Apr 10, 2019 14:00:27 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Apr 10, 2019 10:02:08 GMT -5 busymom said:

Lets turn the conversation around.  How about the death penalty, automatically, for any man who rapes, including college frat boys?  And, don't forget pedophiles.  

No, rape is fine. Just force the woman to marry her rapist. It's in the bible.

  read a story about this happening down south in the Bible Belt. Girls as young as 12 being forced into marriage to their rapist.

[justme]

Apr 10, 2019 14:27:47 GMT -5 dondub said:

Apr 10, 2019 14:00:27 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

No, rape is fine. Just force the woman to marry her rapist. It's in the bible.

  read a story about this happening down south in the Bible Belt. Girls as young as 12 being forced into marriage to their rapist.

It's part of the reason why so many are pushing to move the marriage age to a strict 18. Or at the very least 16. And even then asking for a judge to sign off (though that doesn't always help, there's plenty of examples of judges signing off on marriages the girls don't want.)

[billisonboard]

Apr 10, 2019 12:26:20 GMT -5 @x said:

Apr 10, 2019 11:20:34 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I think it is great that these bills are introduced so it is clear what is at stake if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

What's at stake is the states want to be prepared for a quick change.

My first thought was that your response wasn't really about "what is at stake" but I realized in a sense it did. From the perspective of law enforcement, jail/prison facility personnel, potentially those manufacturing death penalty products, and the legislative branches who will be dealing with funding of things having the law in place provides in a sense "what is at stake". For secondary education/college personnel and those who rely on employing the segment of the population most likely to risk illegal abortion, having the law in place provides in a sense "what is at stake".

[moon/Laura]

Apr 10, 2019 12:44:32 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:33:06 GMT -5 @x said:

Nah, ain't going to happen.

Men are more desirable than women.

The women wouldn't be able to hold out nearly as long.

We'll watch sports and drink beer and go fishing, until the girls give in and say, "Take me, it's been too long, and I can't go without it any longer".

Even with the smiley face to make this "funny" → this is an intensely creepy post!

I thought it was just plain dumb. men aren't necessary except for biological reasons, really. Yeah, a toy isn't the same, but when it comes down to it, they're way better. They're not full of this "I'm a man and I have the right to govern women's bodies and decisions" bullshit.

[tallguy]

Apr 10, 2019 15:54:36 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:44:32 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Even with the smiley face to make this "funny" → this is an intensely creepy post!

I thought it was just plain dumb. men aren't necessary except for biological reasons, really. Yeah, a toy isn't the same, but when it comes down to it, they're way better. They're not full of this "I'm a man and I have the right to govern women's bodies and decisions" bullshit.

A toy may be better than SOME men, but....  And hey, I don't try to govern women's bodies or decisions either.  Unless they want me to.  

[Tennesseer]

Apr 10, 2019 12:46:14 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:24:27 GMT -5 @x said:

Personally responsible for escaping marriage from unpleasant women, who reverted back to their nasty selves, after the vows ?

Just trying your logic on for size. 

Pretty clear what (or who) is the common factor in all of those failed marriages, wouldn't you think?  I'd give the guy a pass on one because things happen and people change, but four or five?  No, it's him. 

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Apr 10, 2019 14:27:47 GMT -5 dondub said:

Apr 10, 2019 14:00:27 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

No, rape is fine. Just force the woman to marry her rapist. It's in the bible.

  read a story about this happening down south in the Bible Belt. Girls as young as 12 being forced into marriage to their rapist.

Hmm, sounds like a common practice in certain parts of the world. Ironically these parts of the world and the common faith and religious practices there are universally loathed by some of these American "Christians".

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Apr 10, 2019 9:40:56 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Yep, and "they" said it could never happen here....well folks, here it is...

Men and women, young and old, native Texans and immigrants, they rose to ask lawmakers to protect life, describing a “genocide” and foreseeing the arrival of “God’s wrath.”



The act of public atonement they are seeking is passage of a bill that would criminalize abortion without exception, and make it possible to convict women who undergo the procedure of homicide, which can carry the death penalty in Texas. Though it faces steep odds of becoming law, the measure earned a hearing this week amid a larger legislative push in GOP-controlled states to curtail abortion rights, in a direct challenge to Roe v. Wade.



The legislation is the brainchild of state Rep. Tony Tinderholt, a Republican from Arlington, Tex., who was placed under state protection because of death threats he received when he first introduced the bill in 2017. The Air Force veteran, who has been married five times, argues that the measure is necessary to make women “more personally responsible.” He said Tuesday that his intention is to guarantee “equal protection” for life inside and "outside the womb.”





Some of his supporters see the issue in even more fateful terms.



“God’s word says, ‘He who sheds man’s blood, by man — the civil government — his blood will be shed,’” said Sonya Gonnella, quoting the Book of Genesis and asking lawmakers to “repent with us.”



Announcing herself as a “follower of the lord Jesus Christ,” Gonnella was among hundreds of people who testified in a marathon hearing that stretched from Monday into early Tuesday before the Texas House’s Committee on Judiciary and Civil Jurisprudence.

www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/04/10/texas-bill-would-make-it-possible-put-women-death-having-abortions/?utm_term=.7d33ac73532c

Perhaps stoning will be the acceptable death penalty. You know like other backwards parts of the world where women are still controlled. 

[Tennesseer]

Sharia Law being introduced to Texas and the U.S. by Christian politicians.  Who would have thought this was ever possible.

[tallguy]

Apr 10, 2019 16:46:07 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Apr 10, 2019 14:27:47 GMT -5 dondub said:

  read a story about this happening down south in the Bible Belt. Girls as young as 12 being forced into marriage to their rapist.

Hmm, sounds like a common practice in certain parts of the world. Ironically these parts of the world and the common faith and religious practices there are universally loathed by some of these American "Christians".

I for one always appreciate when people put the word "Christians" in quotation marks when talking about those who obviously don't know what it means to be one.  

[djAdvocate]

Apr 10, 2019 17:05:25 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Apr 10, 2019 16:46:07 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Hmm, sounds like a common practice in certain parts of the world. Ironically these parts of the world and the common faith and religious practices there are universally loathed by some of these American "Christians".

I for one always appreciate when people put the word "Christians" in parentheses when talking about those who obviously don't know what it means to be one.  

I think you meant quotations.

[djAdvocate]

Apr 10, 2019 12:29:40 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it...Women need to just go on a damn sex strike until men learned to leave our bodies and choices the fuck alone!  If all these dudes trying to make laws forcing us to have children all of a sudden stopped getting laid, I be they would change their tune real quick like. 

The problem is there's a lot of women who wouldn't get on board with this idea.

not good enough.

make it a GENERAL strike.

no cleaning. no cooking. no buying groceries. no sex. nothing.

y'all could shut this place down in a WEEK.

it worked in Iceland. that place is a civil libertarian's wet dream now, and has better women's rights than any nation on Earth.

the US could be the same.

[tallguy]

Apr 10, 2019 17:37:19 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Apr 10, 2019 17:05:25 GMT -5 tallguy said:

I for one always appreciate when people put the word "Christians" in parentheses when talking about those who obviously don't know what it means to be one.  

I think you meant quotations.

I did, yes.  Thanks.

[moon/Laura]

tallguy, you're right. "Some men" would have been a better choice of words.

And the rest I ain't touching. That'd get me into trouble! Lol

[tallguy]

Trouble can be fun sometimes!  

[billisonboard]

Apr 10, 2019 17:44:43 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

tallguy , you're right. "Some men" would have been a better choice of words.

And the rest I ain't touching. That'd get me into trouble! Lol

"Some men ... the rest (of the men) I ain't touching"? 

[weltschmerz]

Apr 10, 2019 15:54:36 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:44:32 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Even with the smiley face to make this "funny" → this is an intensely creepy post!

I thought it was just plain dumb. men aren't necessary except for biological reasons, really. Yeah, a toy isn't the same, but when it comes down to it, they're way better. They're not full of this "I'm a man and I have the right to govern women's bodies and decisions" bullshit.

Maybe not for much longer.


www.inverse.com/article/49792-can-two-males-or-females-make-babies


Everyone knows it takes a male and a female to make a baby. But what a new study from the Chinese Academy of Sciences suggests is that maybe it doesn’t. In a new study, the team of scientists reports they did the seemingly impossible: Produce healthy baby mice from two mothers. The researchers describe their achievement in a breakthrough new paper in Cell Stem Cell.

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Apr 10, 2019 13:17:20 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:58:24 GMT -5 @x said:

But they never understand not being wanted, a women scorned and all.

Just not on their ego radar. 

Clearly, you've never actually known any women in your lifetime.

Any woman who does not meet either the stick figured super model type or the buxom, perky cheerleader type knows what it means to 'not be wanted.' Once females hit the magical middle ages, they actually become completely invisible except if they are admins, waitresses or your mom, except for those few women who have the great genes or great fortune to invest in the superstructure enhancements/personal trainer required to pull off the image of dewy youth.

Men, on the other hand, can grow several layers of love handles, form an aggressive comb over to make up for lost hair on top, walk around with an obnoxious, overbearing personality and if they have a lot of money, can lure playboy models and porn stars into their beds.

By your first line, you clearly haven't known any professional women, who are worth far more than what you describe.  (bolded)

How shallow.

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2019 13:26:33 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:33:06 GMT -5 @x said:

Nah, ain't going to happen.

Men are more desirable than women.

The women wouldn't be able to hold out nearly as long.

We'll watch sports and drink beer and go fishing, until the girls give in and say, "Take me, it's been too long, and I can't go without it any longer".

Yup, that did make me grin.  I just have this image of a belching, farting, beer drinking guy on the couch, chip crumbs in his stubble and on the stained tee shirt covering his beer belly.  He's watching the game and the air in the room is hazy with stale smoke, stale beer and stale BO.  And the wife comes home tired from work, squints through the dark, foul haze, and chirps "Yeah sweet Jesus, gimme some of THAT!"  

Then she drags him into the bedroom, ripping his sweat stained clothes off, and says, take me, and falls back onto the bed in a swoon.

Later on she kicks her shoes off and returns to the kitchen barefoot (where she belongs if not in the bedroom) to prepare the evening meal of breaded catfish.

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2019 15:54:36 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:44:32 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Even with the smiley face to make this "funny" → this is an intensely creepy post!

I thought it was just plain dumb. men aren't necessary except for biological reasons, really. Yeah, a toy isn't the same, but when it comes down to it, they're way better. They're not full of this "I'm a man and I have the right to govern women's bodies and decisions" bullshit.

It was very dumb, as intended.

It matched the nonsense of the post it was answering. 

ymam.proboards.com/post/2990023



The rest comes from men's own self empowerment. (bolded)

I wouldn't call it a "right', as more of an accomplishment, by the ability to do the very thing you describe.

I personally have no investment in this battle, but watch with interest.

[NastyWoman]

The law is aiming the death penalty at the wrong gender:

"If you want to stop abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies. And men are 100% responsible for unwanted pregnancies. No for real, they are. Perhaps you are thinking: IT TAKES TWO! And yes, it does take two for _intentional_ pregnancies.

But ALL unwanted pregnancies are caused by the irresponsible ejaculations of men. Period. Don’t believe me? Let me walk you through it. Let’s start with this: women can only get pregnant about 2 days each month. And that’s for a limited number of years."

Read all about it here:

www.good.is/articles/unwanted-pregnancies-men-at-fault

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2019 15:36:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:26:20 GMT -5 @x said:

What's at stake is the states want to be prepared for a quick change.

My first thought was that your response wasn't really about "what is at stake" but I realized in a sense it did. From the perspective of law enforcement, jail/prison facility personnel, potentially those manufacturing death penalty products, and the legislative branches who will be dealing with funding of things having the law in place provides in a sense "what is at stake". For secondary education/college personnel and those who rely on employing the segment of the population most likely to risk illegal abortion, having the law in place provides in a sense "what is at stake".

Yes.

[Deleted]

Apr 11, 2019 12:14:01 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

The law is aiming the death penalty at the wrong gender:

"If you want to stop abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies. And men are 100% responsible for unwanted pregnancies. No for real, they are. Perhaps you are thinking: IT TAKES TWO! And yes, it does take two for _intentional_ pregnancies.

But ALL unwanted pregnancies are caused by the irresponsible ejaculations of men. Period. Don’t believe me? Let me walk you through it. Let’s start with this: women can only get pregnant about 2 days each month. And that’s for a limited number of years."

Read all about it here:

www.good.is/articles/unwanted-pregnancies-men-at-fault

You got me beat on this one.

With the informative clickbait um, link.

The man supplying the sperm, is 100% at fault.

And I always thought it was 100% the woman's fault, because the woman supplied the egg at the opportune time, silly me.



Those daily pills are just sugar ?  Those condom's are balloons ?

If you look really, really hard into the biology of the problem, there doesn't seem to be a way around the two sides of the fertilization thing, even for unwanted pregnancies.

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2019 17:39:54 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Apr 10, 2019 12:29:40 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it...Women need to just go on a damn sex strike until men learned to leave our bodies and choices the fuck alone!  If all these dudes trying to make laws forcing us to have children all of a sudden stopped getting laid, I be they would change their tune real quick like. 

The problem is there's a lot of women who wouldn't get on board with this idea.

not good enough.

make it a GENERAL strike.

no cleaning. no cooking. no buying groceries. no sex. nothing.

y'all could shut this place down in a WEEK.

it worked in Iceland. that place is a civil libertarian's wet dream now, and has better women's rights than any nation on Earth.

the US could be the same.

That's a great plan, as the men reach for the beer and boat keys, instead of going to work.

Now what ?


I do like your statement of what you think women do with their lives.

Quote; "no cleaning. no cooking. no buying groceries."


There's hope for you to be a real man in there somewhere, I know there is !

[chiver78]

nevermind.