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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 13, 2019 9:59:44 GMT -5
If she were truly vetted, she would not have been the candidate. She was too flawed to win. Remember it was white women voters that said no way. I certainly voted for Hilary. White woman here and I certainly did not vote for Hillary. Of course if I had, my ass would be in jail considering that I am not a citizen  However, I can proudly proclaim that, even though it did not change the outcome of the election, my state gave dt the ass-whooping the rest of the country should have given him. |
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 13, 2019 10:18:28 GMT -5
If she were truly vetted, she would not have been the candidate. She was too flawed to win. Remember it was white women voters that said no way. I certainly voted for Hilary. I did too. I'm neither white nor black, but I voted for her. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 10:30:34 GMT -5
Educated and intelligence are not the same. Now the balls part maybe she is a he who knows...lol graduating near the top of her class certainly indicates that she is intelligent.
I am pretty smart, and I was nowhere near that level of achievement.
I don't see any reason to take that away from her.
why are you trying to make it seem like she is stupid?
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. |
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 13, 2019 11:26:29 GMT -5
Unlike Trump, Hillary actually HAD been vetted. For decades. Remember the extensive White Water investigation? All the endless Bengazhi investigations? The investigation on the fake Russian uranium scandal?
The GOP has been combing through the Clinton's statements and records, sifting through their trash and listening at the doors since Bill was a presidential candidate. They'd never found much that could actually STICK.
That made Hillary perhaps the most heavily vetted candidate for POTUS ever. If there was any truth to the child pedophile ring at the pizza place, or issues with their charity, it would have already been exposed and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Trump, on the other hand, spent most of his career in the heavily mobbed up NYC real estate market, where running a completely legal operation is the exception rather than the norm. He had football stadiums full of questionable business dealings and tax strategies dating back to the seventies. Even a casual vetting would have unearthed enough to have dissuaded a sensible man to give up his dreams of becoming POTUS. Since Trump never thought he would actually win, however, he didn't think any of that mattered (or, he was a first rate narcissist and imaged he could keep all of it hidden).
So yes, I am 100% certain we would not be mired in endless Hillary criminal investigations. I'm 100% certain the House and Senate would have spent their time having hearings, but 100% certain they would find almost nothing to prosecute. Because if it was there, they would have found it years ago.
If she were truly vetted, she would not have been the candidate. She was too flawed to win. Remember it was white women voters that said no way. I voted for her, and I'd do it again tomorrow. Against trump Against Biden against Bernie Any one who doesn't think she was qualified is either woefully ignorant of her education and her career or willfully parroting untruths. You can certainly dislike her. You can certainly not want her elected. But if you say she is unqualified or somehow inherently unelectable, that is either uninformed or intentionally ignorant. Just read the bare bones of her history on Wikipedia. She was tapped as a rising political presence before marrying Clinton. She won the popular vote, she was not a failed candidate like McGovern against Nixon. I'm not sure if you lot actually believe the rubish you post or if constant repetition of these talking points reinforce it for you against the cold intrusion of a reality that isn't tied up neatly with a bow to 100% support your worldview on every point at every second of every day, but it comes across as extremely uninformed. |
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Post by swamp on Mar 13, 2019 11:32:27 GMT -5
graduating near the top of her class certainly indicates that she is intelligent.
I am pretty smart, and I was nowhere near that level of achievement.
I don't see any reason to take that away from her.
why are you trying to make it seem like she is stupid?
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. She didn't have that. |
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 13, 2019 12:04:19 GMT -5
graduating near the top of her class certainly indicates that she is intelligent.
I am pretty smart, and I was nowhere near that level of achievement.
I don't see any reason to take that away from her.
why are you trying to make it seem like she is stupid?
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. AOC grew up working class. She doesn't have celebrity parents with money like that to pay her way through college. She had to do it on her own. Try again. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 13, 2019 12:44:36 GMT -5
graduating near the top of her class certainly indicates that she is intelligent.
I am pretty smart, and I was nowhere near that level of achievement.
I don't see any reason to take that away from her.
why are you trying to make it seem like she is stupid?
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. require? no. but it is still generally true, and I have no reason to suspect it is NOT in the case of AOC. |
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 13, 2019 12:59:03 GMT -5
Unlike Trump, Hillary actually HAD been vetted. For decades. Remember the extensive White Water investigation? All the endless Bengazhi investigations? The investigation on the fake Russian uranium scandal?
The GOP has been combing through the Clinton's statements and records, sifting through their trash and listening at the doors since Bill was a presidential candidate. They'd never found much that could actually STICK.
That made Hillary perhaps the most heavily vetted candidate for POTUS ever. If there was any truth to the child pedophile ring at the pizza place, or issues with their charity, it would have already been exposed and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Trump, on the other hand, spent most of his career in the heavily mobbed up NYC real estate market, where running a completely legal operation is the exception rather than the norm. He had football stadiums full of questionable business dealings and tax strategies dating back to the seventies. Even a casual vetting would have unearthed enough to have dissuaded a sensible man to give up his dreams of becoming POTUS. Since Trump never thought he would actually win, however, he didn't think any of that mattered (or, he was a first rate narcissist and imaged he could keep all of it hidden).
So yes, I am 100% certain we would not be mired in endless Hillary criminal investigations. I'm 100% certain the House and Senate would have spent their time having hearings, but 100% certain they would find almost nothing to prosecute. Because if it was there, they would have found it years ago.
If she were truly vetted, she would not have been the candidate. She was too flawed to win. Remember it was white women voters that said no way. Being well vetted does not mean you have no flaws. It just means you have no hidden past sins that might spring out at unfortunate moments and make it harder to get elected.
Like some audio tape where she bragged about how she loved to grab men by their junk, and they didn't care if she did, because she's rich.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 13, 2019 13:24:35 GMT -5
Two of the major reasons she lost 1. white women did not vote for her in normal voting numbers or stayed home and she lost. 2. Black women failerd to come out in normal voting numbers and she lost. Yet Clinton won the popular vote hands down won. Clinton won 98% of of black women's vote and all the college educated votes. How did trump do?  Stats are sometimes useless. It was a known fact that blacks, especially black women, who are the predominate voter in the family stayed home on Tuesday and did not vote in near the numbers they did in the previous two Presidential cycles. IF black women had turend out in excpected numbers in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania as well as white women who voted for Trump in these states and voted democratic Hillary would have won. |
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Post by NastyWoman on Mar 13, 2019 14:11:17 GMT -5
graduating near the top of her class certainly indicates that she is intelligent.
I am pretty smart, and I was nowhere near that level of achievement.
I don't see any reason to take that away from her.
why are you trying to make it seem like she is stupid?
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. Any more?  from what I have seen of the system, only in times when spaces at top notch colleges were more plentiful available did students get in regularly on intelligence alone. $$, legacy student, sports have always taken away spots away from the "average" background very intelligent students. Just ask the man on the Golden Throne... |
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 13, 2019 16:11:26 GMT -5
Yet Clinton won the popular vote hands down won. Clinton won 98% of of black women's vote and all the college educated votes. How did trump do? Stats are sometimes useless. It was a known fact that blacks, especially black women, who are the predominate voter in the family stayed home on Tuesday and did not vote in near the numbers they did in the previous two Presidential cycles. IF black women had turend out in excpected numbers in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania as well as white women who voted for Trump in these states and voted democratic Hillary would have won. What were the "expected numbers" of black women in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania who were expected to vote? link please. While it is true, 95% of blacks voted went to Obama in 2008, 93% for Obama in 2012, and 88% for Clinton in 2016, can those percentages be blamed on solely black women? Blacks voters, like white voters, are not immune from voting for shiny pennies.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 12:50:01 GMT -5
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. AOC grew up working class. She doesn't have celebrity parents with money like that to pay her way through college. She had to do it on her own. Try again. No need to try again, lol. You might want to give Felicity Huffman a call, to find out how it's done. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 12:53:07 GMT -5
From what I have seen on the news this morning, top notch colleges, excellent test scores, do not require intelligence any more. Just $$. require? no. but it is still generally true, and I have no reason to suspect it is NOT in the case of AOC. Agreed. |
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Post by dondub on Mar 14, 2019 13:14:54 GMT -5
Obviously Felicity Huffman had a major influence on who voted for Hillary AND AOC's educational achievements.
Thanks to x = for tying that all together in such an intelligent, cohesive fashion.  |
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 14, 2019 13:15:36 GMT -5
AOC grew up working class. She doesn't have celebrity parents with money like that to pay her way through college. She had to do it on her own. Try again. No need to try again, lol. You might want to give Felicity Huffman a call, to find out how it's done. What does Felicity Huffman have to do with anything? It's just more deflection from you because your argument is factually incorrect. |
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 14, 2019 19:38:30 GMT -5
Well, tobe fair, trumpies ARE a confused lot |
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Post by ednkris on Mar 14, 2019 21:47:11 GMT -5
I don't have to provide any documentation. The fake Meuller probe, now several committee investigations, why? There is nothing that would warrant an investigation. I know, anything that would keep the presidents name connected with the word investigation.Well this will backfire like everything else the dems have done Got it! You can't back up your claim. I don't think you know what vetting a President means. It means vetting someone BEFORE offering them a position or employment. How can you claim Trump was THE most vetted president, before he became president? What about Meuller? Your version of "Look, a squirrel!"? Was Meuller investigating him before he won the presidency? While he was campaigning? Technically your right....since the vetting process is just an investigation that is all the dems been doing without cause |
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Post by tallguy on Mar 14, 2019 21:55:05 GMT -5
If only the conservatives here were a lot better at this, it would only be half as ridiculous. Pity.
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Post by dondub on Mar 14, 2019 22:51:47 GMT -5
Got it! You can't back up your claim. I don't think you know what vetting a President means. It means vetting someone BEFORE offering them a position or employment. How can you claim Trump was THE most vetted president, before he became president? What about Meuller? Your version of "Look, a squirrel!"? Was Meuller investigating him before he won the presidency? While he was campaigning? Technically your right....since the vetting process is just an investigation that is all the dems been doing without cause Which Dems are those that you are blaming? The DOJ is under Repos. Mueller is a Repo. But they obviously didn't buy the big box of Kool-Aid at Costco that comes with the free blinders prize like a Cracker Jack box at the ball park. That would be you.
And if you really believe that all of the crimes, indictments, and convictions ferreted out by the Mueller investigation are just "window dressing" you are just a simple anarchist that has no respect for the rule of law. A minion of the would be King. Thus you are anti-American and no believer in democracy or it's institutions as you blindly follow an autocratic dictator in training.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 14, 2019 23:21:55 GMT -5
This is funny, according to the Pew Research Center. 64% of White Non College Grads voted for Trump,,,
77% of Non White Non College Grads voted for Hillary.. So which Party had the most uneducated ignorant people vote for them??  |
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Post by tallguy on Mar 14, 2019 23:26:37 GMT -5
This is funny, according to the Pew Research Center. 64% of White Non College Grads voted for Trump,,,
77% of Non White Non College Grads voted for Hillary.. So which Party had the most uneducated ignorant people vote for them?? Trump, obviously. Do you really need someone to explain why? |
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 14, 2019 23:31:31 GMT -5
This is funny, according to the Pew Research Center. 64% of White Non College Grads voted for Trump,,,
77% of Non White Non College Grads voted for Hillary.. So which Party had the most uneducated ignorant people vote for them?? Trump, obviously. Do you really need someone to explain why? Nope ,,, the proof is right there!! |
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Post by tallguy on Mar 14, 2019 23:34:13 GMT -5
Trump, obviously. Do you really need someone to explain why? Nope ,,, the proof is right there!! Your math skills are as lacking as your logic. |
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 14, 2019 23:39:50 GMT -5
Hmmmm, 77% V/S 64%?
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 14, 2019 23:39:59 GMT -5
Nope ,,, the proof is right there!! Your math skills are as lacking as your logic. ....and grammar, sentence structure and spelling. |
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Post by tallguy on Mar 14, 2019 23:41:27 GMT -5
So then your previous answer should have been yes. You do need someone to explain it to you. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 14, 2019 23:42:38 GMT -5
I'm sorry, AS.
Perhaps you're an immigrant whose first language is not English, in which case, I apologize.
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 14, 2019 23:52:39 GMT -5
I do have so disappointing news for you though,, I visited my Nephrologist today,,, Apparently I will live long enough to Vote for Trump Again!!
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