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Post by swamp on Feb 22, 2019 10:15:55 GMT -5
all of them. Swimmers are generally of the "work hard, play hard" mind set. Really? I never knew that. One would think that you'd at least give your body a rest though if you're competing in the biggest sports contest in the world. I guess not. No. Or they wait until they're done competing and then go nuts. Which is what I think they did.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 22, 2019 10:47:51 GMT -5
I refuse to read any articles about this, but I m curious as to why this guy did it. Anyone that reads have any insight? Thy, My oldest Gay Grandson made up a story, posted it on Facebook, about how he was walking down the street, a car full of men pull up start shouting anti gay things at him and was beat up!! It was all a fabrication,, fortunately he did not use the story on the police!
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 22, 2019 10:55:51 GMT -5
Why would not be a hate crime? Boy, here is a loaded question,, why is it OK to hate a white man wearing a red MAGA hat?
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Post by Great on Feb 22, 2019 11:25:07 GMT -5
was unhappy with his salary and used it as a publicity stunt. I have read this from a couple of sources. The thing I don't get is what the guy thought this was going to do for his salary. Now that this has happened, he's going to be extra broke since he won't have a job. No one is going to want to have anything to do with him. Agree, it was just announced on tv that he has been suspended from the show. I'm assuming entertainment people have agents to negotiate contracts, wondering why he thought this was a better plan to a bigger paycheck? www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/02/22/jussie-smollett-empire-fox-statement-staged-attack-career/2949135002/Jussie Smollett suspended from ‘Empire’ after prosecutors said he faked attack to boost salary
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Post by justme on Feb 22, 2019 11:26:16 GMT -5
Why would not be a hate crime? Boy, here is a loaded question,, why is it OK to hate a white man wearing a red MAGA hat?
It's not a loaded to anyone not ignorantly trying to push buttons. What is a hate crime is codified into law. For the states that have them specific criteria must be met for it to be a hate crime. And wearing a stupid ass hat is not in any of the hate crime laws.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 22, 2019 11:49:23 GMT -5
Why Not? If I went out, harassed a Black person wearing a Black Power hat, You would call it a hate crime!
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Post by swamp on Feb 22, 2019 11:50:18 GMT -5
Why Not? If I went out, harassed a Black person wearing a Black Power hat, You would call it a hate crime!
MAGA wearers are not a legally protected class.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 22, 2019 11:53:15 GMT -5
Why not, the are being harassed over their Race and their politics
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Post by swamp on Feb 22, 2019 11:57:02 GMT -5
Political beliefs are not a protected class. It's not the color of the person that matters, it's the MAGA on the head that causes the harassment.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2019 12:30:11 GMT -5
Why not, the are being harassed over their Race and their politics there is a legal standard for harassment.
if they are being harassed, they can sue for it.
I invite them to do so.
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 22, 2019 14:04:53 GMT -5
Why would not be a hate crime? Boy, here is a loaded question,, why is it OK to hate a white man wearing a red MAGA hat?
The MAGA hat is the new white hood.
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Post by engineerdoe on Feb 22, 2019 14:36:27 GMT -5
The thing I don't get is what the guy thought this was going to do for his salary. Now that this has happened, he's going to be extra broke since he won't have a job. No one is going to want to have anything to do with him. Agree, it was just announced on tv that he has been suspended from the show. I'm assuming entertainment people have agents to negotiate contracts, wondering why he thought this was a better plan to a bigger paycheck? www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2019/02/22/jussie-smollett-empire-fox-statement-staged-attack-career/2949135002/Jussie Smollett suspended from ‘Empire’ after prosecutors said he faked attack to boost salary I find it interesting that people will totally believe the fact that he did this for more money. According to the timeline put out by Chicago PD, one of the brothers was Smollett's drug dealer for MDMA. Could that $3500 check be for that? I don't buy the "he did it to get a raise" because that isn't even remotely plausible imho. All the information that the Chicago PD has been releasing about his motives come from the brothers.
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Post by justme on Feb 22, 2019 14:44:33 GMT -5
I find it interesting that people will totally believe the fact that he did this for more money. According to the timeline put out by Chicago PD, one of the brothers was Smollett's drug dealer for MDMA. Could that $3500 check be for that? I don't buy the "he did it to get a raise" because that isn't even remotely plausible imho. All the information that the Chicago PD has been releasing about his motives come from the brothers. I don't know if anyone knows yet at this point. I hadn't heard the drug angle yet (but I also stopped paying that much attention - the memes from the latest Kardashian scandal are way more fun and lighthearted). I could see an angle where he knew the guys who beat him up and why, but twisted it to be sympathetic and explain why he was beat up. Though, back when I was still clicking on articles, I thought I read that the police had text messages talking about the set up between them.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Feb 22, 2019 15:00:10 GMT -5
I have no clue what the truth is in this case; but I have two comments.
1) So much for innocent until proven guilty, at least as far as his employers are concerned.
2) It reminds me of a "Mod Squad" episode I watched recently, in which some actor paid a friend to take a shot at him, to get some publicity and save his TV show from being cancelled for low ratings.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 22, 2019 15:58:03 GMT -5
I have no clue what the truth is in this case; but I have two comments. 1) So much for innocent until proven guilty, at least as far as his employers are concerned. 2) It reminds me of a "Mod Squad" episode I watched recently, in which some actor paid a friend to take a shot at him, to get some publicity and save his TV show from being cancelled for low ratings. He was only suspended, not fired. Maybe they did it so he has the time to deal with his legal issues. They can write him back in any time.
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Post by engineerdoe on Feb 22, 2019 16:28:16 GMT -5
I find it interesting that people will totally believe the fact that he did this for more money. According to the timeline put out by Chicago PD, one of the brothers was Smollett's drug dealer for MDMA. Could that $3500 check be for that? I don't buy the "he did it to get a raise" because that isn't even remotely plausible imho. All the information that the Chicago PD has been releasing about his motives come from the brothers. I don't know if anyone knows yet at this point. I hadn't heard the drug angle yet (but I also stopped paying that much attention - the memes from the latest Kardashian scandal are way more fun and lighthearted). I could see an angle where he knew the guys who beat him up and why, but twisted it to be sympathetic and explain why he was beat up. Though, back when I was still clicking on articles, I thought I read that the police had text messages talking about the set up between them. According to Chicago PD the one text they have is from Smollett to Abel stating "I need your help with something on the low." Everything else being reported is from the brothers. Could this have been to boost his career? sure, but as a salary negotiation? no way.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 22, 2019 16:32:56 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone knows yet at this point. I hadn't heard the drug angle yet (but I also stopped paying that much attention - the memes from the latest Kardashian scandal are way more fun and lighthearted). I could see an angle where he knew the guys who beat him up and why, but twisted it to be sympathetic and explain why he was beat up. Though, back when I was still clicking on articles, I thought I read that the police had text messages talking about the set up between them. According to Chicago PD the one text they have is from Smollett to Abel stating "I need your help with something on the low." Everything else being reported is from the brothers. Could this have been to boost his career? sure, but as a salary negotiation? no way. More screen time in scenes though might mean a higher per episode salary?
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Post by engineerdoe on Feb 22, 2019 16:52:39 GMT -5
According to Chicago PD the one text they have is from Smollett to Abel stating "I need your help with something on the low." Everything else being reported is from the brothers. Could this have been to boost his career? sure, but as a salary negotiation? no way. More screen time in scenes though might mean a higher per episode salary? That could happen but to think he was thinking along those lines and not just increased exposure, who knows. I don't think we have the whole story yet.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 23, 2019 7:33:27 GMT -5
Smollett, did this cause he need a raise!!! Absolute Bulls**t,,, He was promoting hatred, absolute hatred,,
White men wearing red MAGA hats,, Trying to widen the racial and gay community gap against white Republican Men,,, Not so you say,,, look at the number of people and high ranking celebrities that immediately came out condemning the so called trumpsters as racist, bigots!!! Only when the true comes out sneak quietly back, slightly condemning Smollett,,
only then as the media,, try to use excuses as it was cause he wanted more money,,, No it was not!!! He was promoting hate!!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 23, 2019 20:36:45 GMT -5
Political beliefs are not a protected class. It's not the color of the person that matters, it's the MAGA on the head that causes the harassment. Then why didn't describe "His assailants",,,, Orange, Green or even Blue,,, Nope it was White!!.. most certainly meant to be a racist comment!
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 23, 2019 22:15:10 GMT -5
Smollett, did this cause he need a raise!!! Absolute Bulls**t,,, He was promoting hatred, absolute hatred,,
White men wearing red MAGA hats,, Trying to widen the racial and gay community gap against white Republican Men,,, Not so you say,,, look at the number of people and high ranking celebrities that immediately came out condemning the so called trumpsters as racist, bigots!!! Only when the true comes out sneak quietly back, slightly condemning Smollett,,
only then as the media,, try to use excuses as it was cause he wanted more money,,, No it was not!!! He was promoting hate!!!
So does your hero, the MAG-got. What's your point?
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 24, 2019 10:54:57 GMT -5
Maybe he should have said the police did it. Then you would believe him.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 24, 2019 10:59:45 GMT -5
Maybe he should have said the police did it. Then you would believe him. LOL, you are probably right.
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Post by Great on Feb 25, 2019 9:04:02 GMT -5
If Smollet is found guilty, I would be surprised if he serves time in jail, probation and paying a fine (restitution to the City/PD) would be my guess. I think if he's found guilty, it will be the fake antrax death threat letter he mailed to himself at the studio that will sink him. The FBI and Postal Inspectors are now involved, mail fraud is a serious charge that I don't think can be ignored or glossed over.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 25, 2019 9:07:06 GMT -5
Did anyone see the Daily show skits about this? Hilarious. I loved the threatening letter.
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Post by Great on Feb 25, 2019 9:37:17 GMT -5
Did anyone see the Daily show skits about this? Hilarious. I loved the threatening letter. Funny! I had not seen the skit until I saw your mention of it and watched this morning, thx!
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