We cannot turn back now...

[ednkris]

Feb 18, 2019 21:29:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 18, 2019 19:03:03 GMT -5 ednkris said:

...

You may not like it but the process is working the way it should. We finally have a president

We as in the ones who had the stupid obamacare shoved down our throats, now you get the wall how does it taste. At least this is for a good reason  

Obamacare is a poor thing to note here. It was passed by the legislative branch and signed by the executive branch. Former President Obama's Executive Orders on DACA are true examples of executive overreach. If taking power one should not take is a sign that we "have a president", then we had one with Obama.

As far as your claim that "the process is working as it should", I challenge you to explain how that is true. Note that I have cited specific clauses from the Constitution of the United States, the supreme law of the land, to support my position. Can you offer an interpretation of those clauses that give the president the power he has assumed? Or are there different clauses you can cite? 

The president legally declared there is a national emergency with illegal border crossing, there is nothing illegal just because you or others say so. If the democrats or other republicans disagree and want to challange it to  override it that is their choice. That is the way it is period. I said when Trump opened the govt and the dems don't give him the money he asked for he should declare an emergency and let the dems prove otherwise. The problem is chuck and Nancy didn't think he had the balls to do it.

[billisonboard]

Feb 18, 2019 22:44:25 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Feb 18, 2019 21:29:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Obamacare is a poor thing to note here. It was passed by the legislative branch and signed by the executive branch. Former President Obama's Executive Orders on DACA are true examples of executive overreach. If taking power one should not take is a sign that we "have a president", then we had one with Obama.

As far as your claim that "the process is working as it should", I challenge you to explain how that is true. Note that I have cited specific clauses from the Constitution of the United States, the supreme law of the land, to support my position. Can you offer an interpretation of those clauses that give the president the power he has assumed? Or are there different clauses you can cite? 

The president legally declared there is a national emergency with illegal border crossing, there is nothing illegal just because you or others say so. If the democrats or other republicans disagree and want to challange it to  override it that is their choice. That is the way it is period. I said when Trump opened the govt and the dems don't give him the money he asked for he should declare an emergency and let the dems prove otherwise. The problem is chuck and Nancy didn't think he had the balls to do it.

Good enough. But note, it was the Legislative Branch that did not appropriate the funds for the past two plus years, not a political party. It is going to be interesting to watch this plays out. If this move is not countered, it will be the end of any real power in the Legislative Branch. Not sure that our system of checks ands balances really matters to many people anyway. At least as long as we have a President with balls.

[Gardening Grandma]

Feb 18, 2019 22:44:25 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Feb 18, 2019 21:29:56 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Obamacare is a poor thing to note here. It was passed by the legislative branch and signed by the executive branch. Former President Obama's Executive Orders on DACA are true examples of executive overreach. If taking power one should not take is a sign that we "have a president", then we had one with Obama.

As far as your claim that "the process is working as it should", I challenge you to explain how that is true. Note that I have cited specific clauses from the Constitution of the United States, the supreme law of the land, to support my position. Can you offer an interpretation of those clauses that give the president the power he has assumed? Or are there different clauses you can cite? 

The president legally declared there is a national emergency with illegal border crossing, there is nothing illegal just because you or others say so. If the democrats or other republicans disagree and want to challange it to  override it that is their choice. That is the way it is period. I said when Trump opened the govt and the dems don't give him the money he asked for he should declare an emergency and let the dems prove otherwise. The problem is chuck and Nancy didn't think he had the balls to do it.

The legality is not yet determined. 

[djAdvocate]

Feb 18, 2019 21:42:14 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Kinda funny, Back when Obama was using the Executive Order , We complained to no end, the left thought it was good,  

yeah, it is funny.  why are you not complaining now?

[TheHaitian]

LET IT GO, LET IT GO!!!

Let the republicans get it and let’s focus on getting a Democrat in the White House.

Gun control as a national emergency here we come
Climate control as a national emergency here we come
Healthcare system as a national emergency here we come.

And I don’t want to here any republican say shit, nada zilch. You have lost all credibility, all senses... your words mean nothing to me. You have sold your soul to the devil to get your orange guy in office... time to pay the piper is coming; and the Devil always collects!

[tbop77]

Feb 18, 2019 23:05:11 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 18, 2019 22:44:25 GMT -5 ednkris said:

The president legally declared there is a national emergency with illegal border crossing, there is nothing illegal just because you or others say so. If the democrats or other republicans disagree and want to challange it to  override it that is their choice. That is the way it is period. I said when Trump opened the govt and the dems don't give him the money he asked for he should declare an emergency and let the dems prove otherwise. The problem is chuck and Nancy didn't think he had the balls to do it.

Good enough. But note, it was the Legislative Branch that did not appropriate the funds for the past two plus years, not a political party. It is going to be interesting to watch this plays out. If this move is not countered, it will be the end of any real power in the Legislative Branch. Not sure that our system of checks ands balances really matters to many people anyway. At least as long as we have a President with balls.

It does not matter to the party of Trump.  They have no clue what this really means as evidenced.  His defense "and the dems don't give him the money he asked for" shows his blind loyalty to President Trump....no matter what.  And they really think they are MAGA.   

[happyhoix]

Feb 18, 2019 21:18:58 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Feb 18, 2019 20:45:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Are you aware of the difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?

You do realize they 41k broke the law they were apprehended this was between point of entries. The wall shouldn't affect asylum seekers. They just have to go to a point of entry for asylum. Why are you afraid that will happen?

www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

How many people are crossing the border illegally?
There’s no official measure of how many people succeed in illegally crossing the border, but authorities use the number of apprehensions to gauge changes in illegal immigration. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 396,579 in 2018.

How can this just now become a 'crisis' when apprehensions at the southwest border have declined from 1.64 million in 2000 to 400K in 2018?

Shouldn't this have been a 'crisis' in 2000? Why is it that this is the very moment we have to blow a lot of taxpayer money to fix what's been on the decline for years?

Because Trump says so?

As my mother used to say, if Trump told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

Can you think of another reason why Trump might want to create a 'national emergency' right now?

[OldCoyote]

Feb 19, 2019 1:15:28 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Feb 18, 2019 21:42:14 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Kinda funny, Back when Obama was using the Executive Order , We complained to no end, the left thought it was good,  

yeah, it is funny.  why are you not complaining now?

I am letting you have your turn.

[happyhoix]

Feb 19, 2019 4:39:03 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

LET IT GO, LET IT GO!!!

Let the republicans get it and let’s focus on getting a Democrat in the White House.

Gun control as a national emergency here we come
Climate control as a national emergency here we come
Healthcare system as a national emergency here we come.

And I don’t want to here any republican say shit, nada zilch. You have lost all credibility, all senses... your words mean nothing to me. You have sold your soul to the devil to get your orange guy in office... time to pay the piper is coming; and the Devil always collects!

The republicans will collectively develop amnesia.

Like how they've forgotten how much they hated paying for Obama's golf outings.

And how much they hated the giant deficit, and big government.

If a dem gets elected as president in 2020, the bitching about our trillion dollars of debt will begin the day after the election, as all the republicans suddenly get fiscal religion again.  

[Value Buy]

Feb 18, 2019 20:45:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Feb 18, 2019 18:54:47 GMT -5 ednkris said:

41000 apprehended in January....no telling how many were not apprehended....it was always an issue obama, Bush, Clinton also said it was an issue, but Trump is the only one who wants to make a difference. The issue here is the dems are trying to claim false racism to drum up votes...talk about fear mongering

Are you aware of the difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?

Yes, and not one poster on this board never ever ever cheats on their taxes.
So every person claiming asylum has to be a legitimate one.
Once they arrived in Mexico they were free of tyranny but that was not ggod enough for them. 

[djAdvocate]

Feb 19, 2019 9:41:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 18, 2019 20:45:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Are you aware of the difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?

Yes, and not one poster on this board never ever ever cheats on their taxes.
So every person claiming asylum has to be a legitimate one.

that doesn't follow logically.

those things are opposites.

asylum is legal.

cheating on taxes isn't.

and no, I have NEVER done either.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 19, 2019 8:34:46 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Feb 19, 2019 1:15:28 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

yeah, it is funny.  why are you not complaining now?

I am letting you have your turn.

he has the right to any executive order he sees fit.  so no, I will let you be the hypocrite here, thanks.

I am ONLY complaining about the emergency declaration.

and NO, I have never complained before, when ANY president

has done it before- Republican or Democrat.

just this guy.

[happyhoix]

Feb 19, 2019 9:41:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 18, 2019 20:45:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Are you aware of the difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?

Yes, and not one poster on this board never ever ever cheats on their taxes.
So every person claiming asylum has to be a legitimate one.
Once they arrived in Mexico they were free of tyranny but that was not ggod enough for them. 

There is a procedure for reviewing people who are requesting asylum, and rejecting those who do not meet our criteria for obtaining asylum.

Someone who is falsely attempting to claim asylum will get caught and rejected - the review is very strict, and takes a long time to complete.  

 

Mexico does not want them anymore than we want them - not many countries in the world are eager to take on asylum seekers, especially those who show up dead broke on your doorstep. That's why Mexico helps transport the asylum seekers through Mexico and to the US border.

But as a country built on the backs of people coming here seeking freedom and a better life (my own forefathers were Quakers fleeing religious persecution in England) it's a little hypocritical if we suddenly stop allow oppressed  people to enter.

Especially, as Trump would prefer to do, we let people from the 'nice' countries enter, and reject all the people from 'shithole' countries.

[ednkris]

Feb 19, 2019 4:39:03 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

LET IT GO, LET IT GO!!!

Let the republicans get it and let’s focus on getting a Democrat in the White House.

Gun control as a national emergency here we come
Climate control as a national emergency here we come
Healthcare system as a national emergency here we come.

And I don’t want to here any republican say shit, nada zilch. You have lost all credibility, all senses... your words mean nothing to me. You have sold your soul to the devil to get your orange guy in office... time to pay the piper is coming; and the Devil always collects!

exactly ... and they will be challenged also...if goes to court i'll bet gun control and climate control loses healthcare might go thru

[ednkris]

Feb 19, 2019 8:22:30 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Feb 18, 2019 21:18:58 GMT -5 ednkris said:

You do realize they 41k broke the law they were apprehended this was between point of entries. The wall shouldn't affect asylum seekers. They just have to go to a point of entry for asylum. Why are you afraid that will happen?

www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

How many people are crossing the border illegally?
There’s no official measure of how many people succeed in illegally crossing the border, but authorities use the number of apprehensions to gauge changes in illegal immigration. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 396,579 in 2018.

How can this just now become a 'crisis' when apprehensions at the southwest border have declined from 1.64 million in 2000 to 400K in 2018?

Shouldn't this have been a 'crisis' in 2000? Why is it that this is the very moment we have to blow a lot of taxpayer money to fix what's been on the decline for years?

Because Trump says so?

As my mother used to say, if Trump told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

Can you think of another reason why Trump might want to create a 'national emergency' right now?

it's always been important. like i said in a different post we finally have a president willing to actually do something about it. They all promised they all condemned none of them actually did anything meaningful to stop it.

so what are you afraid of it actually working help saving us billions per year on these folks who do get in illegally, and possibly save a few lives from the criminals, or it doesn't and we spent money for nothing. Hell we blow thru money like it is water, i'd rather try and fail then promise and not do it at all.  

[happyhoix]

Feb 19, 2019 11:38:21 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Feb 19, 2019 8:22:30 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

How many people are crossing the border illegally?
There’s no official measure of how many people succeed in illegally crossing the border, but authorities use the number of apprehensions to gauge changes in illegal immigration. Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 396,579 in 2018.

How can this just now become a 'crisis' when apprehensions at the southwest border have declined from 1.64 million in 2000 to 400K in 2018?

Shouldn't this have been a 'crisis' in 2000? Why is it that this is the very moment we have to blow a lot of taxpayer money to fix what's been on the decline for years?

Because Trump says so?

As my mother used to say, if Trump told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

Can you think of another reason why Trump might want to create a 'national emergency' right now?

it's always been important. like i said in a different post we finally have a president willing to actually do something about it. They all promised they all condemned none of them actually did anything meaningful to stop it.

so what are you afraid of it actually working help saving us billions per year on these folks who do get in illegally, and possibly save a few lives from the criminals, or it doesn't and we spent money for nothing. Hell we blow thru money like it is water, i'd rather try and fail then promise and not do it at all.  

We're trillions of dollars in debt because we blow through money like it is water.

That used to be something that mattered to the GOP. The Dems can't be relied on to show fiscal restraint - that's why the GOP was important.

Now, both parties are blowing through money like it's water. That's not sustainable.

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).

Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.

Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example. 

So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.

Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

[billisonboard]

Feb 19, 2019 11:38:21 GMT -5 ednkris said:

... we finally have a president willing to actually do something about it. ...

Yes, one who has no respect for the Constitutional limits of power on the Presidency.

[ednkris]

Feb 19, 2019 11:59:57 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Feb 19, 2019 11:38:21 GMT -5 ednkris said:

it's always been important. like i said in a different post we finally have a president willing to actually do something about it. They all promised they all condemned none of them actually did anything meaningful to stop it.

so what are you afraid of it actually working help saving us billions per year on these folks who do get in illegally, and possibly save a few lives from the criminals, or it doesn't and we spent money for nothing. Hell we blow thru money like it is water, i'd rather try and fail then promise and not do it at all.  

We're trillions of dollars in debt because we blow through money like it is water.

That used to be something that mattered to the GOP. The Dems can't be relied on to show fiscal restraint - that's why the GOP was important.

Now, both parties are blowing through money like it's water. That's not sustainable.

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).

Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.

Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example. 

So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.

Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

we we can agree on the companies hiring illegals, should be fined or siezed. 

The reason why is within your own statement 80 percent are going thru points of entry what about the other 20 percent? If 41k are apprehended at the points of entry then 10k are getting thru the non points of entry. That is alot of people could be alot of criminals well worth the 5 bill to stop them, force them to the points of entry, force them to be more creative more daring so we can easily stop them. The wall will not hurt the situation it will not stop the situation it will only help.

[justme]

Feb 19, 2019 12:07:16 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Feb 19, 2019 11:59:57 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

We're trillions of dollars in debt because we blow through money like it is water.

That used to be something that mattered to the GOP. The Dems can't be relied on to show fiscal restraint - that's why the GOP was important.

Now, both parties are blowing through money like it's water. That's not sustainable.

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).

Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.

Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example. 

So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.

Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

we we can agree on the companies hiring illegals, should be fined or siezed. 

The reason why is within your own statement 80 percent are going thru points of entry what about the other 20 percent? If 41k are apprehended at the points of entry then 10k are getting thru the non points of entry. That is alot of people could be alot of criminals well worth the 5 bill to stop them, force them to the points of entry, force them to be more creative more daring so we can easily stop them. The wall will not hurt the situation it will not stop the situation it will only help.

Dude. Her statistic was for drugs. Not people. You can't equate the two. 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 19, 2019 11:25:29 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Feb 19, 2019 9:41:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Yes, and not one poster on this board never ever ever cheats on their taxes.
So every person claiming asylum has to be a legitimate one.
Once they arrived in Mexico they were free of tyranny but that was not ggod enough for them. 

There is a procedure for reviewing people who are requesting asylum, and rejecting those who do not meet our criteria for obtaining asylum.

Someone who is falsely attempting to claim asylum will get caught and rejected - the review is very strict, and takes a long time to complete.  

 

Mexico does not want them anymore than we want them - not many countries in the world are eager to take on asylum seekers, especially those who show up dead broke on your doorstep. That's why Mexico helps transport the asylum seekers through Mexico and to the US border.

But as a country built on the backs of people coming here seeking freedom and a better life (my own forefathers were Quakers fleeing religious persecution in England) it's a little hypocritical if we suddenly stop allow oppressed  people to enter.

Especially, as Trump would prefer to do, we let people from the 'nice' ^white countries enter, and reject all the people from 'shithole' ^brown  countries.

Fixed (so there is no misunderstanding    .

[Wisconsin Beth]

Feb 19, 2019 13:25:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 19, 2019 11:25:29 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

There is a procedure for reviewing people who are requesting asylum, and rejecting those who do not meet our criteria for obtaining asylum.

Someone who is falsely attempting to claim asylum will get caught and rejected - the review is very strict, and takes a long time to complete.  

 

Mexico does not want them anymore than we want them - not many countries in the world are eager to take on asylum seekers, especially those who show up dead broke on your doorstep. That's why Mexico helps transport the asylum seekers through Mexico and to the US border.

But as a country built on the backs of people coming here seeking freedom and a better life (my own forefathers were Quakers fleeing religious persecution in England) it's a little hypocritical if we suddenly stop allow oppressed  people to enter.

Especially, as Trump would prefer to do, we let people from the 'nice' ^white countries enter, and reject all the people from 'shithole' ^brown  countries.

Fixed (so there is no misunderstanding    .

Or blond countries...

[Tennesseer]

Feb 19, 2019 13:26:54 GMT -5 Wisconsin Beth said:

Feb 19, 2019 13:25:06 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Fixed (so there is no misunderstanding    .

Or blond countries...

To be clear, naturally blond countries.

[weltschmerz]

....except that people from the blond countries don't want to come.
Why lower your quality of life?

[happyhoix]

Feb 19, 2019 12:07:16 GMT -5 ednkris said:

Feb 19, 2019 11:59:57 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

We're trillions of dollars in debt because we blow through money like it is water.

That used to be something that mattered to the GOP. The Dems can't be relied on to show fiscal restraint - that's why the GOP was important.

Now, both parties are blowing through money like it's water. That's not sustainable.

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).

Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.

Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example. 

So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.

Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

we we can agree on the companies hiring illegals, should be fined or siezed. 

The reason why is within your own statement 80 percent are going thru points of entry what about the other 20 percent? If 41k are apprehended at the points of entry then 10k are getting thru the non points of entry. That is alot of people could be alot of criminals well worth the 5 bill to stop them, force them to the points of entry, force them to be more creative more daring so we can easily stop them. The wall will not hurt the situation it will not stop the situation it will only help.

This whole discussion was about the DRUGS Trump claims to be 'pouring' into the country over the border - 80% of the drugs come through the ports of entry, not through the wilderness where there is no wall.

Fix that by checking every car or truck. That's a better place to spend our tax dollars, if we really want to reduce the drugs coming in front that direction (but they'll just start coming in over the other borders, so that's kind of a waste of money, too).

[dondub]

Feb 19, 2019 9:41:59 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 18, 2019 20:45:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Are you aware of the difference between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers?

Yes, and not one poster on this board never ever ever cheats on their taxes.
So every person claiming asylum has to be a legitimate one.
Once they arrived in Mexico they were free of tyranny but that was not ggod enough for them. 

  As my income profile for 46 years has contained rental income with all the various expenses etc., and 29 years of commission income with various forms to use for mileage, meals SS self-employment etc., I have been in the audit red zone the entire time. Therefore they has been no cheating of any kind and no audit except a minor one only regarding college tuition credits that our CPA  was an idiot on in 2017. Don't know why either as she had an older son a few years ahead of our oldest and should have known.

BEWARE: You can get tuition credit stuff over 4 years of taxes but college starts in one year, such as 2018, and the graduation is 4 school years later in 2022. That encompasses 5 tax years.

[thyme4change]

Didn't Obama deport more people than any other President in history? Sounds like he was 'doing something'.

[dondub]

  Very true. However for any Repo-Con to admit that and comment on their support of it would require them to say something approving of Obama.

They are psychologically, emotionally and honestly incapable of doing that. So instead they make fools of themselves by either not knowing that

truth or deliberately pretending it just.never.happened.

[countrygirl2]

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).



Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.



Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example.



So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.



Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

I agree and have said the same about employers at least.

And no we do not cheat on our taxes, hubs teases me because I will not deduct something that should be if I feel there is any doubt. So far we have never been audited and I hope we never are.

[Value Buy]

Feb 19, 2019 22:38:19 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).



Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.



Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example.



So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.



Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

I agree and have said the same about employers at least.

And no we do not cheat on our taxes, hubs teases me because I will not deduct something that should be if I feel there is any doubt. So far we have never been audited and I hope we never are.

I have to ask, is this all your words, or is the first part from an article or op-ed?

[Tennesseer]

Feb 20, 2019 8:08:45 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 19, 2019 22:38:19 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

Here is now to fix the illegal immigrants trying to come through the border to find jobs - put teeth in the regulation that requires all employees to use EVerify to make sure they are only hiring legal workers. Prosecute to the fullest extent any employer caught hiring illegals under the table (for instance, seize their business, like they do for drug traffickers).



Here is now to fix the drugs coming over the southern border - something like 80% of them come through the ports of entry, where only 1 in 10 cars or trucks get searched. Hire more border patrol agents and search every vehicle with a drug dog. It won't stop drugs from coming into the country, but it will significantly reduce the amount coming over the border.



Here is the beauty of my idea - by seizing companies who violate the law and hire illegals, we actually MAKE money this way. Plus, if illegals can't find employment, they'll stop trying to come in through all the other ways - visa overstays through airports, for example.



So instead of doing what you suggest and 'gamble' on this 'maybe' working, we can shut that shit down for sure and make money in the process.



Why do you supposed Trump hasn't suggested my idea? Why do you think he keeps going on about a wall?

I agree and have said the same about employers at least.

And no we do not cheat on our taxes, hubs teases me because I will not deduct something that should be if I feel there is any doubt. So far we have never been audited and I hope we never are.

I have to ask, is this all your words, or is the first part from an article or op-ed?

Country girl is quoting a post by happyhoix on the previous page.