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Post by thyme4change on Jan 30, 2019 15:13:02 GMT -5
What the heck is a "large swaths of airports were shut down"? What constitutes a swath? Do you mean one lane of security checkpoints in some airports? Or one plane landing at a small airport which is closed at night because their are no scheduled flights coming or going? No. Because workers weren't coming in, parts of airports were closed. The people running the food stands, concession stands, etc,. made no money. They won't be getting any back pay. The restaurants in airports are government run? At every airport I've been to they seem like private companies (or corporations).
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 30, 2019 15:17:02 GMT -5
Any of you ever been unemployed thru no fault of your own?? So tell how concerned, were the Government employees that you came into contact with if you were trying to give some unemployment benefits?? Been there , done that in my early life... So, I am just as concerned for them as they were for me,,,, not much to none,, Yea, that is about it!!
Yes, I was unemployed for a short time when the flower shop I was working in burned down. The Government workers were very kind and helpful.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 30, 2019 15:20:58 GMT -5
No. Because workers weren't coming in, parts of airports were closed. The people running the food stands, concession stands, etc,. made no money. They won't be getting any back pay. The restaurants in airports are government run? At every airport I've been to they seem like private companies (or corporations). No, the coffee shops, restaurants, bars and concession stands are not government run. The people who work there got nothing and will get nothing. This shutdown did not only affect government workers. A lot of people got screwed and Trump wants to do it again.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 30, 2019 15:30:46 GMT -5
What the heck is a "large swaths of airports were shut down"? What constitutes a swath? Do you mean one lane of security checkpoints in some airports? Or one plane landing at a small airport which is closed at night because their are no scheduled flights coming or going? No. Because workers weren't coming in, parts of airports were closed. The people running the food stands, concession stands, etc,. made no money. They won't be getting any back pay. To the best of my knowledge airports and businesses within the airport were not closed down. TSA had to close possibly one checkpoint out of several checkpoints at some major airports. Parts of airports did not close. Passengers were just sent to another checkpoint right next to the closed one in the walkway, and had to spend extra time in line. No restaurants or bars were harmed by this incident, other than some passengers might not had time to stand in their always long lines waiting to be waited on. The stores and pubs are directly after the security checkpoints, so after security check, passengers could spend time at the establishments. If I am wrong, please supply a link.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 30, 2019 15:47:11 GMT -5
Some airports closed completely. Some closed temporarily. Some only closed a few terminals. Look it up. The non-federal workers will get squat.
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Post by steff on Jan 30, 2019 15:54:06 GMT -5
Why is it so hard for Republicans to admit that the shut down had an effect on people other than just federal workers?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 30, 2019 16:18:37 GMT -5
Why is it so hard for Republicans to admit that the shut down had an effect on people other than just federal workers? You have to ask?
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Post by haapai on Jan 30, 2019 17:46:49 GMT -5
The ability of anyone, of any political tribe, to talk about folks working as federal contractors , has a lot to do with the fact that nobody has any kind of stats on how many there are, what they usually make, or which private company they work for.
Even folks who want to bring attention to the contract workers have no idea how many there are, which is kinda the starting point for any discussion of how badly they have been bitten.
Who wants to be the journalist who estimates the number of federal contractors and is later informed that their estimate is off by at least a factor of three in the low direction?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 30, 2019 19:01:47 GMT -5
I don't see how both sides can be blamed when there was a bill passed that would have meant the government never would have shut down and trump changed his mind. the more compelling case is this:
who is bargaining for something political?
the answer is Trump.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 30, 2019 19:06:36 GMT -5
No. Because workers weren't coming in, parts of airports were closed. The people running the food stands, concession stands, etc,. made no money. They won't be getting any back pay. The restaurants in airports are government run? At every airport I've been to they seem like private companies (or corporations). If it takes me 2.5 - 3 hours to get through security chances are I will be sprinting to the gate to catch my plane, not eating and/or drinking at the restaurants. So I would think that the restaurants/concession stands/etc. had to cut the hours for their workers severely as a result. (just my guess but it seems logical to me)
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 30, 2019 19:52:35 GMT -5
The restaurants in airports are government run? At every airport I've been to they seem like private companies (or corporations). If it takes me 2.5 - 3 hours to get through security chances are I will be sprinting to the gate to catch my plane, not eating and/or drinking at the restaurants. So I would think that the restaurants/concession stands/etc. had to cut the hours for their workers severely as a result. (just my guess but it seems logical to me) Although, if fights are delayed for many hours because the air traffic controllers call in, you might be there long enough to need 2 meals, even after your 2 hours in the security lines. When I "looked up" these airport closures, it appeared that they delayed flights and closed runways. I am not sure the terminals were closed.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 30, 2019 20:53:55 GMT -5
If it takes me 2.5 - 3 hours to get through security chances are I will be sprinting to the gate to catch my plane, not eating and/or drinking at the restaurants. So I would think that the restaurants/concession stands/etc. had to cut the hours for their workers severely as a result. (just my guess but it seems logical to me) Although, if fights are delayed for many hours because the air traffic controllers call in, you might be there long enough to need 2 meals, even after your 2 hours in the security lines. When I "looked up" these airport closures, it appeared that they delayed flights and closed runways. I am not sure the terminals were closed. Airports Close Terminals as TSA Workers Stay Home During Government Shutdown www.smartertravel.com/how-the-government-shutdown-could-affect-airports/
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 30, 2019 22:21:48 GMT -5
Let's not forget all those loving TSA agents, Step away from the TSA workers, them and the Air Traffic Controllers are our heroes! If they don't come back to work,, will I have to feel my own balls??
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 30, 2019 22:26:22 GMT -5
Step away from the TSA workers, them and the Air Traffic Controllers are our heroes! If they don't come back to work,, will I have to feel my own balls?? Everyone should just leave your balls alone, and out of this conversation
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 31, 2019 9:04:29 GMT -5
Although, if fights are delayed for many hours because the air traffic controllers call in, you might be there long enough to need 2 meals, even after your 2 hours in the security lines. When I "looked up" these airport closures, it appeared that they delayed flights and closed runways. I am not sure the terminals were closed. Airports Close Terminals as TSA Workers Stay Home During Government Shutdown www.smartertravel.com/how-the-government-shutdown-could-affect-airports/Your article makes no mention of any concession stands. Most airports have the majority of their concessions right after security. Yes some terminals have a few concessions all the way down the various terminal walkways, but the article you linked only talked about TSA Security issues. These terminals were not closed down for " for weeks"......which would harm staff members. Passengers were forced to go to another security point, then travel to their terminal for the flight. Those terminals would have been maxxed out so vendors could transfer staff from one location to another. Most concessio entities in large airports have multiple location in severlal gateway terminals.
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