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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 23:58:21 GMT -5
That wasn't a justification. You're avoiding the question. Furthermore, your own family and friends came to the US illegally, and stayed long enough to get their papers.You're A OK with it. Why is it OK for your loved ones and nobody else? Hypocrisy at the finest. It Is Good For Me Welts! But for the ones that are not my family and friends,, Tomorrow will be,, pick them up, work the Hell out of them,, no food or water,, drop them off at ICE,, works really well for me!!
Say what? Are you serious?
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 31, 2019 7:12:38 GMT -5
No, but Welts and dezii believe it!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 31, 2019 14:53:16 GMT -5
No, but Welts and dezii believe it! Frankly, I don't believe anything you say. You lost credibility a long time ago.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 31, 2019 15:26:38 GMT -5
Let's get back on topic and avoid discussing one another, please. TYVM.
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 31, 2019 15:37:03 GMT -5
Still waiting for justification from you for the wall. You ever going to answer. I was looking for the picture of the Border on Google Earth,, It showed a gate similar to a cattle gate,, that was standing wide open,,,, No Border Patrol. But, the picture of the wide open gate apparently has been removed,,, Sigh!! Besides the gate, it was a run down barbed wire fence,,, That will certainly keep them out!
You still haven't told me what miracle this wall will accomplish and how it do it. All you did was deflect. I presume you're not answering because you have no idea.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 31, 2019 19:30:24 GMT -5
really? i would like to see you prove that. All I need to do is go to a Home depot, You can have legal and illegal there, you don't know which is which. Speaking better English is usually a tip off.
I doubt HD hires illegally.
again, I am not looking for your speculations. I am looking for PROOF.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 31, 2019 19:31:10 GMT -5
if you knew that, then why did you ask what they were paid?
PS- if you read what i said CLOSELY i didn't say that they were not paid FMW. but, of course, you didn't. you just like to argue points that are not being made.
DJ, I didn't say I knew what Trump's employee are paid, I only stated what the people around me are paid. and I didn't even MENTION Trump in the last FOUR DAYS. please try to keep up, or ignore my posts. tyia.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 31, 2019 22:56:56 GMT -5
I was looking for the picture of the Border on Google Earth,, It showed a gate similar to a cattle gate,, that was standing wide open,,,, No Border Patrol. But, the picture of the wide open gate apparently has been removed,,, Sigh!! Besides the gate, it was a run down barbed wire fence,,, That will certainly keep them out!
You still haven't told me what miracle this wall will accomplish and how it do it. All you did was deflect. I presume you're not answering because you have no idea. It won't even keep drugs out. Huge load of fentanyl got in through a legal border crossing. PHOENIX — U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials announced Thursday their biggest fentanyl bust ever, saying they captured nearly 114 kilograms of the deadly synthetic opioid from a secret compartment inside a load of Mexican produce heading into Arizona. globalnews.ca/news/4911804/us-customs-fentanyl-bust-arizona/
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 31, 2019 23:34:57 GMT -5
While also refusing to substantiate his own claims with fact. unfortunately, a common practice on this board.
I really like specifics, but the only thing I get when I ask for them are anecdotes, ie:
"my relatives...." "my gardener...."
This is actually why I hate the State of the Union Speeches. They bring in one family and boo hoo, they don't have this or that. I know they are trying to humanize the statistics, but, it makes every American think that because they know a handful of people that may or may not be in the situation being discussed, they understand the whole problem.
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Post by tbop77 on Feb 2, 2019 10:43:48 GMT -5
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell cautioned President Trump privately this week about the consequences of declaring a national emergency to build his border wall, telling him the move could trigger political blowback and divide the GOP, according to two Republicans with knowledge of the exchange. McConnell (R-Ky.) told Trump that Congress might end up passing a resolution disapproving the emergency declaration, the people said — which would force the president to contemplate issuing his first veto ever, in the face of opposition from his own party. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-privately-cautions-trump-about-emergency-declaration-on-border-wall/ar-BBT3W6Y?ocid=spartandhpCould it be the GOP will become the biggest losers in this game President Trump is playing?
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 2, 2019 16:43:07 GMT -5
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell cautioned President Trump privately this week about the consequences of declaring a national emergency to build his border wall, telling him the move could trigger political blowback and divide the GOP, according to two Republicans with knowledge of the exchange. McConnell (R-Ky.) told Trump that Congress might end up passing a resolution disapproving the emergency declaration, the people said — which would force the president to contemplate issuing his first veto ever, in the face of opposition from his own party. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-privately-cautions-trump-about-emergency-declaration-on-border-wall/ar-BBT3W6Y?ocid=spartandhpCould it be the GOP will become the biggest losers in this game President Trump is playing? It will be a spectacle if he does. More amusement for people all over the world laughing at us. I think people in England are saying "I'm glad our problem is only a no deal Brexit."
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 3, 2019 2:38:03 GMT -5
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell cautioned President Trump privately this week about the consequences of declaring a national emergency to build his border wall, telling him the move could trigger political blowback and divide the GOP, according to two Republicans with knowledge of the exchange. McConnell (R-Ky.) told Trump that Congress might end up passing a resolution disapproving the emergency declaration, the people said — which would force the president to contemplate issuing his first veto ever, in the face of opposition from his own party. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-privately-cautions-trump-about-emergency-declaration-on-border-wall/ar-BBT3W6Y?ocid=spartandhpCould it be the GOP will become the biggest losers in this game President Trump is playing? It will be a spectacle if he does. More amusement for people all over the world laughing at us. I think people in England are saying "I'm glad our problem is only a no deal Brexit." We’ve had several conversations with Brits visiting New Zealand. They’ve told us that our problem (trump) is worse than Brexit (which they hate). The newspapers here treat him like a bad joke.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 3, 2019 15:03:24 GMT -5
It will be a spectacle if he does. More amusement for people all over the world laughing at us. I think people in England are saying "I'm glad our problem is only a no deal Brexit." We’ve had several conversations with Brits visiting New Zealand. They’ve told us that our problem (trump) is worse than Brexit (which they hate). The newspapers here treat him like a bad joke. I disagree that Brexit is worse. Once they decouple from the EU, there will be lasting consequences. The road to new normal will be long and painful. A lot of the stupid things Trump is doing can be undone by the next administration. I think we have learned that executive orders and non-law policies (which President Obama used a lot of) are just a pen stroke away from being reversed. The Supreme Court will have long term effects. We have some hard times ahead because of that.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 3, 2019 15:46:41 GMT -5
We’ve had several conversations with Brits visiting New Zealand. They’ve told us that our problem (trump) is worse than Brexit (which they hate). The newspapers here treat him like a bad joke. I disagree that Brexit is worse. Once they decouple from the EU, there will be lasting consequences. The road to new normal will be long and painful. A lot of the stupid things Trump is doing can be undone by the next administration. I think we have learned that executive orders and non-law policies (which President Obama used a lot of) are just a pen stroke away from being reversed. The Supreme Court will have long term effects. We have some hard times ahead because of that. The damage done by the two SC appointments are likely to last a generation. We are close to losing womens’ right to make their own choices. Something my generation fought long and hard for.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 3, 2019 15:54:54 GMT -5
I disagree that Brexit is worse. Once they decouple from the EU, there will be lasting consequences. The road to new normal will be long and painful. A lot of the stupid things Trump is doing can be undone by the next administration. I think we have learned that executive orders and non-law policies (which President Obama used a lot of) are just a pen stroke away from being reversed. The Supreme Court will have long term effects. We have some hard times ahead because of that. The damage done by the two SC appointments are likely to last a generation. We are close to losing womens’ right to make their own choices. Something my generation fought long and hard for. I am concerned about that, but I think between citizens united and the series of decisions that shrink worker's rights, we have really big problems. And they are the kind of problems that are hard to rally the troops against. The money is working against the little guy more than any other time in the past 100 years. America is a great place to be rich.
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