Tiny
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Post by Tiny on Jan 25, 2019 18:28:06 GMT -5
So what exactly is in the Bill that Trump just signed that gets the government going again?
Who were the winners and the losers?
I can't figure out what to google to get this info....
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Post by oped on Jan 25, 2019 18:31:04 GMT -5
Did anyone win? Trump lost. Maybe some more gop.
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Post by oped on Jan 25, 2019 18:31:36 GMT -5
I think it’s basically the same bill he refused to sign a month ago.
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Post by steff on Jan 25, 2019 18:34:28 GMT -5
Democrats did slip in a renewal/extension for the Domestic Violence Act against Women & Children into the bill he signed. So there's at least 1 point winner.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 25, 2019 18:38:22 GMT -5
Ann Coulter is freaking out on Trump for this. She's another one he doesn't insult.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 25, 2019 18:48:23 GMT -5
trump lost. Pelosi won.
Pelosi is already stating no money for the wall.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 25, 2019 19:09:34 GMT -5
Resolved is a pretty strong word. I'm not counting chickens until you guys are up and running for real.
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 25, 2019 19:20:29 GMT -5
Resolved is a pretty strong word. I'm not counting chickens until you guys are up and running for real. . This is more like a 3 week intermission. I hope the affected government agencies have their crap together well enough to pay the employees before the next shutdown!
But dt DID blink first → no two ways about it
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 25, 2019 20:24:29 GMT -5
Resolved is a pretty strong word. I'm not counting chickens until you guys are up and running for real. . This is more like a 3 week intermission. I hope the affected government agencies have their crap together well enough to pay the employees before the next shutdown!
But dt DID blink first → no two ways about it
Blinked? trump rolled over and sunk like a torpedoed ship and called it a victory.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 25, 2019 21:15:28 GMT -5
I'm interested to see where his approval goes in the next 3 weeks.
it might go higher, but there is little reason it should.
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Post by oped on Jan 25, 2019 21:22:14 GMT -5
Neither the dow nor Trumps ratings seem tethered to any reality i can follow...
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Post by oped on Jan 25, 2019 21:43:44 GMT -5
Will admit I e logged onto 538 several times today to view the 56 to 39.3 aggregate... it does make me smile
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jan 25, 2019 22:05:27 GMT -5
trump lost. Pelosi won. Pelosi is already stating no money for the wall. Trump lost, America won. Anguish to see what he does in 3 weeks when he doesn't get his wall.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 25, 2019 23:12:04 GMT -5
Evidently, the loss to the US economy during the shutdown, was $6 billion.
Dumbass.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 25, 2019 23:16:05 GMT -5
Will admit I e logged onto 538 several times today to view the 56 to 39.3 aggregate... it does make me smile Translation please
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Post by tallguy on Jan 25, 2019 23:41:28 GMT -5
Will admit I e logged onto 538 several times today to view the 56 to 39.3 aggregate... it does make me smile Translation please How unpopular is Donald Trump?
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 25, 2019 23:43:58 GMT -5
How is he even getting 38% approval?
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Post by Tiny on Jan 25, 2019 23:46:14 GMT -5
Democrats did slip in a renewal/extension for the Domestic Violence Act against Women & Children into the bill he signed. So there's at least 1 point winner. That's what I was looking for... what actually got signed... but even with DT's ego getting bruised and no wall his backers might have made out like bandits. A phyrrhic victory isn't much of victory.
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Post by tallguy on Jan 25, 2019 23:46:27 GMT -5
How is he even getting 38% approval? I know. It's deplorable.
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Post by cronewitch on Jan 25, 2019 23:50:41 GMT -5
Trump is ready to give up on the wall while declaring victory. People who are against the wall are for border security so in 3 weeks he will have stopped saying wall or fence and has already started saying border security. He will be offer money for security and declare victor without a cent for a wall.
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Post by dezii on Jan 26, 2019 0:30:12 GMT -5
Democrats did slip in a renewal/extension for the Domestic Violence Act against Women & Children into the bill he signed. So there's at least 1 point winner. It opens up the government for three weeks...puts in motion the wheels to move to pay the back wages to those affected and get workers wages back to being paid again ..but after 21 days...if still no $5.5 Billion for a wall, are we back to where we are now?
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Post by dezii on Jan 26, 2019 0:33:26 GMT -5
How is he even getting 38% approval? I know. It's deplorable. Basically his base but he has lost educated Woman, the undecided and those independents who don't want to be associated with a party....so his approval rating is the lowest ever for him...even a few pubs have turned away publicly.
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 26, 2019 6:53:43 GMT -5
Sarah Sanders
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Sarah Sanders Retweeted Donald J. Trump
In 21 days President @realdonaldtrump is moving forward building the wall with or without the Democrats. The only outstanding question is whether the Democrats want something or nothing
I hope conservatives explain to her and President Trump this is not how our government works. Bless their heart though, I'm sure some still believe he is going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it.
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 26, 2019 9:25:47 GMT -5
Well it is now in the Democrats court to get something done, Trump conceded, Now it is their ball,,, good luck with that! From this point on every person killed by an illegal,,, When , not if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and it will happen, it is on the Democrats for the failure to secure the border!
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Post by oped on Jan 26, 2019 9:29:00 GMT -5
So every school child killed, every movie or concert goer...that’s on the pubs right... for failing to secure guns? Every one who dies from a natural disaster or forest fire is on the pubs for not securing our climate?
If you really want to play that game... you are not going to win. Just FYI.
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 26, 2019 9:30:21 GMT -5
Well it is now in the Democrats court to get something done, Trump conceded, Now it is their ball,,, good luck with that! From this point on every person killed by an illegal,,, When , not if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and it will happen, it is on the Democrats for the failure to secure the border!
No and No. Trump still needs to agree to a long term funding deal. This isn't a case where he let government reopen so now he get $5.7 billion. Exaggerating every crime committed by an illegal is not going to fly.
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Post by tbop77 on Jan 26, 2019 9:32:31 GMT -5
Well it is now in the Democrats court to get something done, Trump conceded, Now it is their ball,,, good luck with that! From this point on every person killed by an illegal,,, When , not if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and it will happen, it is on the Democrats for the failure to secure the border!
I'd say it's on President Trump.....he didn't get Mexico to pay for his wall!
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Post by ednkris on Jan 26, 2019 9:35:53 GMT -5
Well it is now in the Democrats court to get something done, Trump conceded, Now it is their ball,,, good luck with that! From this point on every person killed by an illegal,,, When , not if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and it will happen, it is on the Democrats for the failure to secure the border!
exactly he opened their pandoras box. This might get real ugly in about a month. Here is a very real possibility. Once some bad shit happens from an illegal (although i wouldnt put it past the republicans to stage either) he will claim an state of emergency and fund the wall. White House will get sued it will make its way to the supreme court and the funding will get upheld. Would have been easier on the dems if they would give trump the money and settled for something he would be willing to give them. Now it is going to get ugly
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Post by laterbloomer on Jan 26, 2019 9:36:16 GMT -5
Well it is now in the Democrats court to get something done, Trump conceded, Now it is their ball,,, good luck with that! From this point on every person killed by an illegal,,, When , not if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and it will happen, it is on the Democrats for the failure to secure the border!
I'd say it's on President Trump.....he didn't get Mexico to pay for his wall! POTD
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Post by OldCoyote on Jan 26, 2019 9:44:46 GMT -5
Well it is now in the Democrats court to get something done, Trump conceded, Now it is their ball,,, good luck with that! From this point on every person killed by an illegal,,, When , not if there is a terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and it will happen, it is on the Democrats for the failure to secure the border!
No and No. Trump still needs to agree to a long term funding deal. This isn't a case where he let government reopen so now he get $5.7 billion. Exaggerating every crime committed by an illegal is not going to fly. Why not the Demo, are the ones against the wall, open borders, take everyone in,
then tell me that a couple of drones will do the same thing!
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