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Post by tallguy on Feb 12, 2018 10:12:35 GMT -5
Oh, and new policy- if you haven't specifically addressed the substance of any of my posts, I won't be reading yours. Enjoy conversing with yourself.Pretty much what you do here, isn't it? Nobody really takes you seriously, so very few truly read either your articles or your posts. They have learned not to do so, since so many of them are complete and utter bull****. Admittedly, Virgil does try to take you at face value, but even he appears to be growing tired of it. And there are still a couple of conservative holdouts desperate to think you are right. They will be disappointed. Your tactics are the same as Trump's: Bury people in so much crap that maybe they won't be able to see light any more. It may work to some extent with the average person, which is how we ended up with such a ridiculously unqualified twit for president. It doesn't work with thinking people. Most here are, regardless of your opinion of them. They will not fall for the fevered rantings of lunatics, like those who populate your other sites do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 10:20:39 GMT -5
I dont even see Paul’s posts unlesss someone quotes them. I just talk to everyone else. As long as Virgil takes him seriously I hide Virgil too. I have no need for more excrement in my life.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 12, 2018 10:26:49 GMT -5
If the 10 page memo is 'nothing' as you claim, why has Trump refused to release it?
It's a political stunt. Notice they're not denying (as the GOP did) that it contains sources and methods which will have to be redacted. They did it to force this situation to come about so they could keep it as a talking point, while not discussing any of the details.
Don't blow any smoke about 'national security.' The dems gave their 10 page memo to the DOJ for them to review and redact as needed two weeks ago. Plus Trump released Nune's memo, even when the DOJ expressly told him NOT to. The only reason Trump won't release it is it refuted, item by item, everything Nunes claims in his memo, and Trump apparently can't risk even a single person reading the Dem memo and realizing everything in Nunes' memo is horseshit.
See first comment. The nunes memo-- which incredibly remains unrefuted (as in, not even an attempt), was substantive and did not release sources and methods nor harm national security as Democrats claimed it would before declaring it a "nothingburger" (I guess not realizing that this discredits all the pre-release hysteria on their part?).
Which goes back to my main, big question that I asked you twice, point blank - and which you've refused to answer both times: If Trump is completely innocent, as he claims, and if this whole Mueller investigation is nothing but a witch hunt, why won't Trump just sit back, let Mueller do his investigations and then announce to the world that Trump is spotlessly clean? Why the unprecedented full frontal attack against our own intelligence services, if there is nothing for Mueller to find?
Third time answering this: Because he's clearly not inclined to do so. And nothing obligates him to do so. No one is "attacking" the corrupt intelligence services. Just pointing out the ways in which they've discredited themselves. We're WAAAAAAAY past defending the DOJ and FBI's handling of the Clinton email probe and their direct involvement (along with the State Department) in the Steele dossier / FISA court fraud. It happened. Everyone that said it happened was completely correct. All that's left is to deal with the matter: prosecute those involved.
I know you're not going to answer me because there is no logical reason for Trump to behave this way, unless he's guilty of something. There is no other reasonable explanation for his behavior.
Yeah, of course you're right. Because nobody under a cloud of suspicion would have any reasonable incentive to point out the corruption being laid bare in the law enforcement agency casting the shadow over them. I mean, who wouldn't sit quietly by while being maligned by obvious hoodlums?
But you won't respond to this third request, either, because you always ignore the questions that you can't answer with some kind of frenzied anti-Clinton spin. Which is why I so rarely bother to respond to your posts anymore. It's like shouting into a deaf man's ear.
I responded EACH time- this being the third time. And though not word for word- essentially the same answer.
OK, sorry, I forgot you live in a parallel universe. Everything you said above is incorrect but I'm not wasting time and effort looking up and posting what you will inevitably declare to be fake news or a stunt.
Here is my proof you're not living in this reality: Third time answering this: Because he's clearly not inclined to do so. And nothing obligates him to do so. No one is "attacking" the corrupt intelligence services.
I think at this point you're just trolling this site. Possibly this is some kind of social experiment on your part.
I responded EACH time- this being the third time. And though not word for word- essentially the same answer.
Ok sorry, if you did respond to me directly, it was probably layered somewhere within your links to the Conservative nut house or Brietbart or one of your other videos or links that I generally ignore, so I missed it.
Or maybe I just didn't understand you were replying to my question because your answer makes no sense at all.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 12, 2018 10:28:58 GMT -5
The Democratic Party, by any objective measure, has at its head an organized crime syndicate with corrupt "cops" and "prosecutors" in their pockets. Like all criminal enterprises, as it begins to unwind-- people are going to talk. We WILL actually eventually peel all the layers back. Here are some firm predictions: 1. Wanting to survive as a political party, Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton will FINALLY be jettisoned by the party and its faithful as Nixon eventually was, and they WILL be charged with very serious crimes. In all of the Russian collusion mess- Bill & Hillary Clinton can do the least for the party. Sure, they know where the bodies are buried and this will present a challenge to the party-- my suspicion is that they'll find a way because, after all, the FISA abuse and Russia-collusiongate are not the Clinton's biggest problems...Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation are... 2. Numerous high-level current and former officials at the State Department, FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, and I would include the judiciary, sitting members of the legislature, and some journalists-- are going to be fired and/or charged with varying degrees of criminal offenses. Names to watch: Susan Rice, Samantha Power, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, E.W. “Bill” Priestap, Judge Rubin Contreras, Senator Mark Warner, Senator John McCain (if he lives long enough- and he probably won't), Benjamin Wittes, Michael Kortan, Rachael Brand, David Laughman, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz, James Baker, Andy McCabe, Bruce Ohr and his ham radio communicating wife Nellie, Devlin Barrett, Christoper Steele, Glenn Simpson, Rod Rosenstein-- if for nothing else, illegally naming James Mueller special counsel, and James Mueller himself-- depending on his activities in the year leading up to being named Special Counsel in violation of the statute. Slightly less firm prediction: Obama will be implicated, but will likely not be prosecuted due to "first black president privilege", however this prediction could change if it's so bad- and so transparent that there's simply no other option available. But I'm at 95% certainty Obama won't be held accountable as the criminal mastermind he actually is. It's doubtful any of the leftists / Democrats here have any idea what I just posted- this is here for later reference when it becomes clear I called it.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 12, 2018 10:30:50 GMT -5
I dont even see Paul’s posts unlesss someone quotes them. I just talk to everyone else. As long as Virgil takes him seriously I hide Virgil too. I have no need for more excrement in my life.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 12, 2018 10:31:46 GMT -5
OK, sorry, I forgot you live in a parallel universe. Everything you said above is incorrect but I'm not wasting time and effort looking up and posting what you will inevitably declare to be fake news or a stunt.
Here is my proof you're not living in this reality: Third time answering this: Because he's clearly not inclined to do so. And nothing obligates him to do so. No one is "attacking" the corrupt intelligence services.
I think at this point you're just trolling this site. Possibly this is some kind of social experiment on your part.
I responded EACH time- this being the third time. And though not word for word- essentially the same answer.
Ok sorry, if you did respond to me directly, it was probably layered somewhere within your links to the Conservative nut house or Brietbart or one of your other videos or links that I generally ignore, so I missed it.
Or maybe I just didn't understand you were replying to my question because your answer makes no sense at all.
Or...perhaps you're not "seeing" my responses or understanding them as a means of coping with your cognitive dissonance?
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 12, 2018 10:37:48 GMT -5
OK, sorry, I forgot you live in a parallel universe. Everything you said above is incorrect but I'm not wasting time and effort looking up and posting what you will inevitably declare to be fake news or a stunt.
Here is my proof you're not living in this reality: Third time answering this: Because he's clearly not inclined to do so. And nothing obligates him to do so. No one is "attacking" the corrupt intelligence services.
I think at this point you're just trolling this site. Possibly this is some kind of social experiment on your part.
I responded EACH time- this being the third time. And though not word for word- essentially the same answer.
Ok sorry, if you did respond to me directly, it was probably layered somewhere within your links to the Conservative nut house or Brietbart or one of your other videos or links that I generally ignore, so I missed it.
Or maybe I just didn't understand you were replying to my question because your answer makes no sense at all.
Or...perhaps you're not "seeing" my responses or understanding them as a means of coping with your cognitive dissonance? No, I've pretty much given up reading your lengthy screeds.
If you want to reply to me directly, if you include it in the first sentence of your first paragraph I'll probably see it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 12, 2018 11:43:25 GMT -5
believing in the stuff you suffer for........INTERESTING!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 12:06:08 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't read propaganda and bullshit.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 12, 2018 14:17:58 GMT -5
although the thread title keeps changing, my response to today's is:
this is far from over. i give it another 6 months. just in time for midterms.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 13, 2018 9:29:21 GMT -5
The Democratic Party, by any objective measure, has at its head an organized crime syndicate with corrupt "cops" and "prosecutors" in their pockets. Like all criminal enterprises, as it begins to unwind-- people are going to talk. We WILL actually eventually peel all the layers back. Here are some firm predictions: 1. Wanting to survive as a political party, Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton will FINALLY be jettisoned by the party and its faithful as Nixon eventually was, and they WILL be charged with very serious crimes. In all of the Russian collusion mess- Bill & Hillary Clinton can do the least for the party. Sure, they know where the bodies are buried and this will present a challenge to the party-- my suspicion is that they'll find a way because, after all, the FISA abuse and Russia-collusiongate are not the Clinton's biggest problems...Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation are... 2. Numerous high-level current and former officials at the State Department, FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, and I would include the judiciary, sitting members of the legislature, and some journalists-- are going to be fired and/or charged with varying degrees of criminal offenses. Names to watch: Susan Rice, Samantha Power, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, E.W. “Bill” Priestap, Judge Rubin Contreras, Senator Mark Warner, Senator John McCain (if he lives long enough- and he probably won't), Benjamin Wittes, Michael Kortan, Rachael Brand, David Laughman, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz, James Baker, Andy McCabe, Bruce Ohr and his ham radio communicating wife Nellie, Devlin Barrett, Christoper Steele, Glenn Simpson, Rod Rosenstein-- if for nothing else, illegally naming James Mueller special counsel, and James Mueller himself-- depending on his activities in the year leading up to being named Special Counsel in violation of the statute. (3) Slightly less firm prediction: Obama will be implicated, but will likely not be prosecuted due to "first black president privilege", however this prediction could change if it's so bad- and so transparent that there's simply no other option available. But I'm at 95% certainty Obama won't be held accountable as the criminal mastermind he actually is. (4) It's doubtful any of the leftists / Democrats here have any idea what I just posted- this is here for later reference when it becomes clear I called it. 1. Never going to happen. Whether the Clintons are guilty or not vis a vis the Uranium One deal, I predict no evidence sufficiently weighty to lift the fog of plausible deniability will ever surface. The Clintons will never be indicted, let alone with major charges. 2. My prediction hasn't changed since Reply #878. In summary: " I think at least one big fish will wind up wearing the "Let's make Ms. Clinton's e-mail scandal go away." scandal, and at least one will take it in the teeth for authorizing wiretaps on Pres. Trump's campaign HQ under FISA Title I." That this will result in major charges, I'm more skeptical of. 3. Also addressed in Reply #878: "I don't think Mr. Mueller or Pres. Obama will be swept up in anything." 4. They're certainly eager to declare their unwillingness to read anything you post. Personally I suspect they're peeking. Here's my question for you: Are you also willing to put a timeline on these predictions? If they prove correct, you get to say "I told you so," and do your victory lap. But if they fail, at what point do your critics (and skeptics, more generally) get to do their victory lap? The end of 2018? 2019?
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 13, 2018 9:35:09 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for an updateon this statement:
"However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war."
So who has been arrested and incarcerated in Gitmo and 'black sites`?
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 13, 2018 10:24:01 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for an updateon this statement: "However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war." So who has been arrested and incarcerated in Gitmo and 'black sites`? I was never clear if it was the treasonous, evil dems rounding up 1000s of the oppressed but virtuous GOP, or the American cowboy GOPers rounding up the evil treasonous dems and funneling them into Gitmo, but I was too mired in ennui to ask.
After all, Hillary is dead from Parkinson's, Obama is going before a firing squad, the world is falling apart around me, it's all too much.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 13, 2018 10:49:22 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for an updateon this statement: "However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war." So who has been arrested and incarcerated in Gitmo and 'black sites`? I was never clear if it was the treasonous, evil dems rounding up 1000s of the oppressed but virtuous GOP, or the American cowboy GOPers rounding up the evil treasonous dems and funneling them into Gitmo, but I was too mired in ennui to ask. ... Gitmo is my fallback retirement plan.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 13, 2018 10:53:03 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for an updateon this statement: "However, I have sources which have advised that the little coup attempt is the tip of the iceberg. I'm told that there was a massive plot to literally take down the United States of America by literally 1,000's of people in government; that high level officials have been arrested, foreign agents have been rounded up and put in Gitmo and sent to black sites, and that they are working on a sanitized version of events that won't cause a panic or a civil war." So who has been arrested and incarcerated in Gitmo and 'black sites`? I was never clear if it was the treasonous, evil dems rounding up 1000s of the oppressed but virtuous GOP, or the American cowboy GOPers rounding up the evil treasonous dems and funneling them into Gitmo, but I was too mired in ennui to ask.
After all, Hillary is dead from Parkinson's, Obama is going before a firing squad, the world is falling apart around me, it's all too much. In fairness, the world is falling apart around us, quickly enough now that it's perceptible. The real question is: what will get us first? Economic collapse? Major natural disaster? Nuclear war? Climate change? The rise of Islam and the death of Western civilization? Attacks on critical infrastructure? A pandemic? Wars of ethnicity and nationalism? Extreme concentration of wealth? Anarchy? Water and critical resource shortages? All of the above? I know some people are convinced computers will somehow develop god-like intelligence in the next 20 years and save us all (good luck with your neon god, sirs), but the rest of us are waiting for the other shoe to drop.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 13, 2018 10:56:23 GMT -5
I was never clear if it was the treasonous, evil dems rounding up 1000s of the oppressed but virtuous GOP, or the American cowboy GOPers rounding up the evil treasonous dems and funneling them into Gitmo, but I was too mired in ennui to ask. ... Gitmo is my fallback retirement plan. Year round Caribbean breezes with a sea view. Cannot be beat.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 13, 2018 11:07:09 GMT -5
I was never clear if it was the treasonous, evil dems rounding up 1000s of the oppressed but virtuous GOP, or the American cowboy GOPers rounding up the evil treasonous dems and funneling them into Gitmo, but I was too mired in ennui to ask. ... Gitmo is my fallback retirement plan. after the Trump Collapse, with riots in the street, you might find it safer in a nice 4x4 in the Gulf.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Feb 13, 2018 11:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by dezii on Feb 13, 2018 11:37:19 GMT -5
Oh, and new policy- if you haven't specifically addressed the substance of any of my posts, I won't be reading yours. Enjoy conversing with yourself.Pretty much what you do here, isn't it? Nobody really takes you seriously, so very few truly read either your articles or your posts. They have learned not to do so, since so many of them are complete and utter bull****. Admittedly, Virgil does try to take you at face value, but even he appears to be growing tired of it. And there are still a couple of conservative holdouts desperate to think you are right. They will be disappointed. Your tactics are the same as Trump's: Bury people in so much crap that maybe they won't be able to see light any more. It may work to some extent with the average person, which is how we ended up with such a ridiculously unqualified twit for president. It doesn't work with thinking people. Most here are, regardless of your opinion of them. They will not fall for the fevered rantings of lunatics, like those who populate your other sites do. " Nobody really takes you seriously, so very few truly read either your articles or your posts. They have learned not to do so, since so many of them are complete and utter bull****. "
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 13, 2018 14:06:05 GMT -5
The Democratic Party, by any objective measure, has at its head an organized crime syndicate with corrupt "cops" and "prosecutors" in their pockets. Like all criminal enterprises, as it begins to unwind-- people are going to talk. We WILL actually eventually peel all the layers back. Here are some firm predictions: 1. Wanting to survive as a political party, Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton will FINALLY be jettisoned by the party and its faithful as Nixon eventually was, and they WILL be charged with very serious crimes. In all of the Russian collusion mess- Bill & Hillary Clinton can do the least for the party. Sure, they know where the bodies are buried and this will present a challenge to the party-- my suspicion is that they'll find a way because, after all, the FISA abuse and Russia-collusiongate are not the Clinton's biggest problems...Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation are... 2. Numerous high-level current and former officials at the State Department, FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, and I would include the judiciary, sitting members of the legislature, and some journalists-- are going to be fired and/or charged with varying degrees of criminal offenses. Names to watch: Susan Rice, Samantha Power, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, E.W. “Bill” Priestap, Judge Rubin Contreras, Senator Mark Warner, Senator John McCain (if he lives long enough- and he probably won't), Benjamin Wittes, Michael Kortan, Rachael Brand, David Laughman, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz, James Baker, Andy McCabe, Bruce Ohr and his ham radio communicating wife Nellie, Devlin Barrett, Christoper Steele, Glenn Simpson, Rod Rosenstein-- if for nothing else, illegally naming James Mueller special counsel, and James Mueller himself-- depending on his activities in the year leading up to being named Special Counsel in violation of the statute. (3) Slightly less firm prediction: Obama will be implicated, but will likely not be prosecuted due to "first black president privilege", however this prediction could change if it's so bad- and so transparent that there's simply no other option available. But I'm at 95% certainty Obama won't be held accountable as the criminal mastermind he actually is. (4) It's doubtful any of the leftists / Democrats here have any idea what I just posted- this is here for later reference when it becomes clear I called it. 1. Never going to happen. Whether the Clintons are guilty or not vis a vis the Uranium One deal, I predict no evidence sufficiently weighty to lift the fog of plausible deniability will ever surface. The Clintons will never be indicted, let alone with major charges. 2. My prediction hasn't changed since Reply #878. In summary: " I think at least one big fish will wind up wearing the "Let's make Ms. Clinton's e-mail scandal go away." scandal, and at least one will take it in the teeth for authorizing wiretaps on Pres. Trump's campaign HQ under FISA Title I." That this will result in major charges, I'm more skeptical of. 3. Also addressed in Reply #878: "I don't think Mr. Mueller or Pres. Obama will be swept up in anything." 4. They're certainly eager to declare their unwillingness to read anything you post. Personally I suspect they're peeking. Here's my question for you: Are you also willing to put a timeline on these predictions? If they prove correct, you get to say "I told you so," and do your victory lap. But if they fail, at what point do your critics (and skeptics, more generally) get to do their victory lap? The end of 2018? 2019? I can't put a timeline on it. I've been an entrepreneur most of my life and no matter how slowly I think the justice system moves- it always moves even more slowly. I do think that now that the jig is up-- now that we know for a fact that Obama, Hillary, the DNC, and corrupt officials in the federal government including but not limited to the DOJ and FBI-- conspired to use the power of the federal government to thwart the candidacy of Donald J. Trump, and to de-legitimize his presidency after his unexpected victory- even to the point of removing him from office for bogus claims that Trump was essentially a Vladimir Putin asset who worked with hostile foreign agents to subvert the election process. We know their modus operandi was "reverse targeting of U.S. citizens". The U.S. Government can legally spy on foreign persons outside the United States. The U.S. Government CANNOT legally spy on U.S. citizens in a foreign country. The U.S. Government CANNOT legally spy on foreign persons within the country. BUT, the U.S. Government MAY legally conduct surveillance of a foreign person talking to a U.S. citizen without a warrant so long as the U.S. citizen’s identity is “masked”. Surveilling a foreign person outside the U.S. talking to a U.S. citizen where the U.S. citizen is the real target is called “Reverse Targeting” and it is ILLEGAL. The U.S. Government CANNOT legally spy on foreign persons within the country. BUT, we KNOW the Obama administration is on record as having unmasked HUNDREDS of U.S. Citizens. The purpose was to spy on the Trump team- and they did. Remember- the unmasking scandal is the key to the whole thing because they were spying BEFORE they had a single FISA warrant-- so they had to go get a FISA warrant as CYA-- basically, the cops broke into the house believing a bad dude lived there. While inside, they found evidence of illegal stuff. They then went back to get a warrant to legitimize their search. The problem? Before the break-in, the cops had no evidence. The solution? Invent evidence justifying a warrant. Enter the Clinton-dossier. They need a CYA-- the FISA warrant. To get it, they manufactured a "dossier". A political fantasy concoction which contained information from Clinton operatives and the State Department to name a few sources- given to Christopher Steele at Fusion GPS-- where interestingly enough Nelly Ohr, the wife of DOJ official Bruce Ohr, worked. Then we're expected to believe that the "dossier" was an intel document presented to the FBI with the assistance of John McCain-- and that the FBI mistook it for an "intel document". Anther interesting fact: Russian businessman Sergey Millian-- the source of the salacious "golden showers" fantasy-- was in contact with George Papadopoulos-- how the hell do you explain the courious link between the two? dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/george-papadopouloss-fascinating-link-to-the-trump-dossier/Now, there's a debate running about whether there was EVER a FISA warrant at all? Someone has offered $1,000 reward for documentation of ANY FISA warrant... dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/george-papadopouloss-fascinating-link-to-the-trump-dossier/And some heavy hitters are starting to see that there's no choice but to pursue everyone involved to the ends of the earth. Victor Davis Hanson is a rightie-- but he's no Alex Jones. Consider his latest on the end-game: www.nationalreview.com/article/456354/fisa-scandal-clinton-obama-corruption-lawbreaking-whats-next-prosecution
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 13, 2018 14:23:12 GMT -5
You keep saying all that over and over like repeating it will make it so.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 13, 2018 14:54:48 GMT -5
1. Never going to happen. Whether the Clintons are guilty or not vis a vis the Uranium One deal, I predict no evidence sufficiently weighty to lift the fog of plausible deniability will ever surface. The Clintons will never be indicted, let alone with major charges. 2. My prediction hasn't changed since Reply #878. In summary: " I think at least one big fish will wind up wearing the "Let's make Ms. Clinton's e-mail scandal go away." scandal, and at least one will take it in the teeth for authorizing wiretaps on Pres. Trump's campaign HQ under FISA Title I." That this will result in major charges, I'm more skeptical of. 3. Also addressed in Reply #878: "I don't think Mr. Mueller or Pres. Obama will be swept up in anything." 4. They're certainly eager to declare their unwillingness to read anything you post. Personally I suspect they're peeking. Here's my question for you: Are you also willing to put a timeline on these predictions? If they prove correct, you get to say "I told you so," and do your victory lap. But if they fail, at what point do your critics (and skeptics, more generally) get to do their victory lap? The end of 2018? 2019? I can't put a timeline on it. I've been an entrepreneur most of my life and no matter how slowly I think the justice system moves- it always moves even more slowly. I do think that now that the jig is up-- now that we know for a fact that Obama, Hillary, the DNC, and corrupt officials in the federal government including but not limited to the DOJ and FBI-- conspired to use the power of the federal government to thwart the candidacy of Donald J. Trump, and to de-legitimize his presidency after his unexpected victory- even to the point of removing him from office for bogus claims that Trump was essentially a Vladimir Putin asset who worked with hostile foreign agents to subvert the election process. We know their modus operandi was "reverse targeting of U.S. citizens". The U.S. Government can legally spy on foreign persons outside the United States. The U.S. Government CANNOT legally spy on U.S. citizens in a foreign country. The U.S. Government CANNOT legally spy on foreign persons within the country. BUT, the U.S. Government MAY legally conduct surveillance of a foreign person talking to a U.S. citizen without a warrant so long as the U.S. citizen’s identity is “masked”. Surveilling a foreign person outside the U.S. talking to a U.S. citizen where the U.S. citizen is the real target is called “Reverse Targeting” and it is ILLEGAL. The U.S. Government CANNOT legally spy on foreign persons within the country. BUT, we KNOW the Obama administration is on record as having unmasked HUNDREDS of U.S. Citizens. The purpose was to spy on the Trump team- and they did. Remember- the unmasking scandal is the key to the whole thing because they were spying BEFORE they had a single FISA warrant-- so they had to go get a FISA warrant as CYA-- basically, the cops broke into the house believing a bad dude lived there. While inside, they found evidence of illegal stuff. They then went back to get a warrant to legitimize their search. The problem? Before the break-in, the cops had no evidence. The solution? Invent evidence justifying a warrant. Enter the Clinton-dossier. They need a CYA-- the FISA warrant. To get it, they manufactured a "dossier". A political fantasy concoction which contained information from Clinton operatives and the State Department to name a few sources- given to Christopher Steele at Fusion GPS-- where interestingly enough Nelly Ohr, the wife of DOJ official Bruce Ohr, worked. Then we're expected to believe that the "dossier" was an intel document presented to the FBI with the assistance of John McCain-- and that the FBI mistook it for an "intel document". Anther interesting fact: Russian businessman Sergey Millian-- the source of the salacious "golden showers" fantasy-- was in contact with George Papadopoulos-- how the hell do you explain the courious link between the two? dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/george-papadopouloss-fascinating-link-to-the-trump-dossier/Now, there's a debate running about whether there was EVER a FISA warrant at all? Someone has offered $1,000 reward for documentation of ANY FISA warrant... dailycaller.com/2017/11/01/george-papadopouloss-fascinating-link-to-the-trump-dossier/And some heavy hitters are starting to see that there's no choice but to pursue everyone involved to the ends of the earth. Victor Davis Hanson is a rightie-- but he's no Alex Jones. Consider his latest on the end-game: www.nationalreview.com/article/456354/fisa-scandal-clinton-obama-corruption-lawbreaking-whats-next-prosecutionwait-I thought someone said it was all over and it's a mop up operation now? What's being mopped up? "TREASON: I WAS RIGHT. IT'S OVER. IT'S A MOP UP OPERATION NOW"
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 13, 2018 15:34:25 GMT -5
Susan Rice's 11th-hour CYA "email to herself" is another piece of the puzzle that gives the game away. Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. Obama is running out of places to hide.
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Post by midjd on Feb 13, 2018 15:45:37 GMT -5
That single sentence has a whole lot of subjects and adjectives, but no real conclusion to the opening phrase "I do think that now that the jig is up--"
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't trying to hedge your non-prediction by burying it in one of the more impressive run-on sentences I've encountered today.
So, "now that the jig is up" -- what?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 13, 2018 15:46:00 GMT -5
You keep saying all that over and over like repeating it will make it so. I am not saying it in hopes it might be so. It is so, and I am saying it. Saying it isn't so, doesn't make it not so.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 13, 2018 16:11:02 GMT -5
Tell you what, I'll read an article from National Review if you read one from Salon.
Seems only fair.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 13, 2018 16:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by dezii on Feb 13, 2018 16:34:40 GMT -5
yesterday at 9:22am SpaceCoastPaul said:
"Oh, and new policy- if you haven't specifically addressed the substance of any of my posts, I won't be reading yours. Enjoy conversing with yourself."
A threat?......
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 13, 2018 17:23:13 GMT -5
Here- I think I've finally summed up the whole scheme as succinctly as humanly possible:
President Obama and Hillary Clinton were engaged in a massive, ongoing bribery, extortion, and racketeering abuse of power scheme, or "pay to play" scandal in which, among other things, the government approved the sale of 20% of the United States' uranium production to a Russian government-controlled entity (Rosatom / Uranium One) in exchange for large "donations" to the Clinton Foundation.
During the course of the investigation, it was learned that Hillary Clinton kept an illegal clandestine and unsecure private email server on which she conducted official government business while Secretary of State in order to conceal her communication from the government and the public in violation of federal law which requires all official communication take place on secure government servers, and that all of it be preserved.
In spite of his statements to the contrary, it was learned that President Obama was not only aware of Hillary Clinton's illegal private email server, but that he communicated with her on it under a pseudonym, in violation of the law.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Hillary Clinton opted not to comply with the subpoena which required she preserve her emails, and hand them over with the server to congressional investigators. Instead, she contracted with a company to use a program called "Bleach Bit" to destroy more than 33,000 email conversations.
In order to protect himself, Obama conspired to exonerate Hillary Clinton from any wrongdoing and rig the Democratic Party primary to ensure that Hillary was the nominee. Once Hillary Clinton was the nominee, the conventional wisdom (which we all know) was that she would easily defeat Donald Trump. For good measure, President Obama and Secretary Clinton, together with the Democratic National Committee, elected Democrats, Democratic Party operatives, and corrupt public servants, including but not limited to officials of the State Department, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice, conspired to convert the powerful intelligence and law enforcement tools created to defend us from hostile foreign enemies and the threat of terrorism, to their own private political use for the purpose of derailing the candidacy of Donald J. Trump. and we'd never know the full scope of the corruption within our government. Except Hillary lost. And when that happened, it was Panic City.
They were left scrambling to cover their tracks and escalate their spying scheme to nothing short of treason in an attempt to remove the duly elected President of The United States from office under false pretenses.
I will grant there are a LOT of details not here- I'm trying to write a decent SUMMARY.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 13, 2018 17:35:05 GMT -5
Interesting read. My take- you should dig a little deeper in to exactly WHY Trump campaign officials "just happened" to keep running into Russians. The answer: they were repeatedly introduced to them. Whenever you hear a Democrat roll out a new narrative, you have to pay attention- so, some of us perked up right away when Hillary Clinton kicked it off with bizzaro-world Russian conspiracy claims during the debate. Another safe bet: if a Democrat accuses a Republican of something- you can bet that whatever it is-- from racism to anti-semitism to colluding with Russians-- the Democrat is up to their eyeballs in it. And what are we learning? Hillary and the Democrats colluded with Russians... www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/02/13/the-media-is-ignoring-ties-between-the-clinton-campaign-and-russians/?utm_term=.b2506b206867
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