Tiny
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Post by Tiny on Aug 16, 2017 13:53:12 GMT -5
I don't think it's great news. I think a council to advise on policies that would stimulate manufacturing in teh US is a good idea. But i see why they quit. I agree, in principle. However, Trump can't be advised, unfortunately. He turns a deaf ear to anything he doesn't want to hear. I don't blame them for walking out, either. I'd have done the same. There's no value to beating one's head against the proverbial brick wall. And that what has made him frightening during the whole election process.
So who's ADVICE is he listening to? I'm pretty certain (based on the words and phrases Trump uses) that he's NOT coming up with what he's been saying on his own. I think he's spouting back what his true 'advisors' are saying. Ok, maybe they are his friends or people he respects or people he admires.
I just don't think Trump is so two faced and diabolical (wanting to put one over on America) that he's the driving force behind what he says and what he does.
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mmhmm
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 16, 2017 14:02:30 GMT -5
I agree, in principle. However, Trump can't be advised, unfortunately. He turns a deaf ear to anything he doesn't want to hear. I don't blame them for walking out, either. I'd have done the same. There's no value to beating one's head against the proverbial brick wall. And that what has made him frightening during the whole election process.
So who's ADVICE is he listening to? I'm pretty certain (based on the words and phrases Trump uses) that he's NOT coming up with what he's been saying on his own. I think he's spouting back what his true 'advisors' are saying. Ok, maybe they are his friends or people he respects or people he admires.
I just don't think Trump is so two faced and diabolical (wanting to put one over on America) that he's the driving force behind what he says and what he does.
Trump is, and has been a loose cannon. He spews the last thing he hears that resonates with his warped view of the world and humanity. He believes he can bully people into following his lead, hating those he points out to be hated, and doing exactly as he instructs. That's how he's lived his life. Now, confronted with the entirety of the US population utilizing the anonymity of the internet, he's finding his old ways don't work. His "underlings" are barking back and some of them are quite rabid in their refusal to take his orders. I don't think his was a diabolical plan. He's not intelligent enough for that. He just expected things to be as they've always been in his closed little world - and they're not that way, at all. He didn't surprise many of us but I think many of us have surprised him - and the surprises keep coming.
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happyhoix
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 16, 2017 14:30:34 GMT -5
And that what has made him frightening during the whole election process.
So who's ADVICE is he listening to? I'm pretty certain (based on the words and phrases Trump uses) that he's NOT coming up with what he's been saying on his own. I think he's spouting back what his true 'advisors' are saying. Ok, maybe they are his friends or people he respects or people he admires.
I just don't think Trump is so two faced and diabolical (wanting to put one over on America) that he's the driving force behind what he says and what he does.
Trump is, and has been a loose cannon. He spews the last thing he hears that resonates with his warped view of the world and humanity. He believes he can bully people into following his lead, hating those he points out to be hated, and doing exactly as he instructs. That's how he's lived his life. Now, confronted with the entirety of the US population utilizing the anonymity of the internet, he's finding his old ways don't work. His "underlings" are barking back and some of them are quite rabid in their refusal to take his orders. I don't think his was a diabolical plan. He's not intelligent enough for that. He just expected things to be as they've always been in his closed little world - and they're not that way, at all. He didn't surprise many of us but I think many of us have surprised him - and the surprises keep coming. This is exactly the problem. His WH staff used to all hang around his doorway hoping to get invited in so they could bend his ear with their version of what he should do/say. Like a chunk of silly putty, Trump would pick up on whatever the last person said to him that day and parrot it back. This is why Trump might make a statement on a topic on Monday and then totally reverse his position on the same topic Tuesday.
Kelly has been attempting to stop that, forcing the WH staff to go through him to get an appointment, and not allowing people, even Trump's family, to just pop in to his office during the day.
It's a shame that our POTUS has to be kept away from bad influences by a nanny like 9 year old with ADHD but there you have it.
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steff
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Post by steff on Aug 16, 2017 22:57:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 4:22:11 GMT -5
I just had a very scary thought...
Trump might actually be able to deliver on his M.A.G.A. promise... by the CEO's and other leaders in business and industry seeing what their screwing over the "little people" has wrought. Trump may be the bitter pill we need for Business to begin to flourish again, IN SPITE OF and just TO SPITE Trump.
Just like when Trump withdrew from the Paris Accords and several manufacturing companies basically declared "Screw you... we're still going to follow them... even if we don't have to anymore... because it's the right thing to do."
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thyme4change
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 17, 2017 11:18:41 GMT -5
Any evidence of his ability to make 'The best deals '? I haven't heard of anything he negotiated in his entire presidency. I could have missed something.
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