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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2017 14:05:54 GMT -5
Under "normal" circumstances I would agree with you, wholeheartedly. But this isn't anywhere near normal. This type of evil sees acquiescence as tacit approval, and it only grows when it is not challenged. Since the election of Trump these types have felt increasingly bold about coming out in the open and proclaiming proudly who they are. It is as though child molesters coalesced under NAMBLA and held a victory march through town celebrating molestation. If good people do not challenge these beliefs then they are somehow "normalized". As it is, I don't believe that young woman's death is in vain. This event has shown the harsh light of reality on what those people represent and just who they are. They are not action figures with cool guns and interesting costumes. They are evil goons and wannabe killers, torturers and rapists. They must be exposed for what they are. This week has been a wake up call to America. Will we heed the warning? I don't think that's true, demin. You are saying there are two choices - violence or acquiescence. I don't believe those are the only choices here. Good people can challenge these beliefs without coming armed to a protest and participating in a free for all.
I do agree when you say this event has shown the harsh light of reality on what those people represent - on both sides. Neither is pretty. It's a wake up call for sure. When violence like this is celebrated, there will be more of it. Much more. America has basically given the "ok" to beat the shit out of anyone you disagree with. In this particular case, it happens to be on the right side of morality or what you and I agree with. Next time it might not be. We don't get to cry about it then.
Please see my above post from a person who lives in Charlottsville.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 16, 2017 14:08:47 GMT -5
I was relieved to hear they had cancelled the march on Boston this weekend. Had they gone through with it DW and I would have had a discussion as to whether or not we or I would be going there. Not that I want to stare down an AR-15, and certainly I wouldn't have brought my old bolt action rifle. I was concerned the alt right's threats to disrupt Ms. Heyer's funeral would become a reality but it looks like the "honor guard" made up of local veterans who got together on Twitter to monitor for problems served its purpose well. I'm thankful for their service.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Aug 16, 2017 14:12:14 GMT -5
All due respect- that is NOT what I wrote, or what I meant. I do not advocate violence at all, and in fact am a fan of both The Mahatma Gandhi and MLK Jr. The choices are acquiescence or resistance. If I did not clarify, I support non violent resistance to the radical racists. I never thought you advocated violence. I'm sorry if something I wrote implied you did.
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 16, 2017 14:14:50 GMT -5
Found on FB: August 14 at 9:24am · From an actual resident of Charlottesville: "There seems to be a perception from people outside of Charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right" banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not. A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked kkk. A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on their way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the alt-right folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested. So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging eachother on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents (which treated both sides... turns out the alt right erst didn’t bring any medics. Guess they planned on doing all the injuring), water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending." I remember reading posts on Twitter coming from inside the church that was surrounded. Those people were scared to death and couldn't leave the church. They were afraid they'd be set afire if they stayed and shot if they tried to leave. The tweets were really hard to read.
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Post by steff on Aug 16, 2017 14:29:31 GMT -5
Only ONE side is celebrating the violence and it's not the counter protesting side. It's the Nazis & KKK who are happy about the violence. Making videos talking about being GLAD that Heather Heyer died. Bragging about how there will be more violence and more deaths.
There's only 1 side doing that. And I will NOT ignore Nazi's marching in our streets. I will NOT ignore the KKK marching in our streets. I will NOT stick my head in the sand because it doesn't affect me. It affects those I love & care about. I will not ignore the hatred being praised by a so call "president" until it affects me. I will stand out and scream out how wrong it is.
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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2017 14:34:14 GMT -5
Something else found on FB.
I can't get the picture to copy, but it's a bunch of women standing naked in a field holding their babies. It makes me cry just looking at it.
In light of recent events I would like to share with you one of the most haunting photographs I have ever seen. I first stumbled upon it in a library book as a child of about ten. Until now, I have not shared it with anyone because it seemed too greusome. Today, I think we should all look at it.
It is from the early 1940s in the early days of Hitler's final solution. In those days the Nazis were still working out the most efficient way of exterminating an entire race. They hadnt yet settled on Zyklon B so they sent squads of soldiers to round up Jewish people, shoot them, and then bury them in mass graves. Witnesses say that the dirt over the graves shifted for several days because one bullet was not always enough for a quick death.
As a child, i found myself wondering how horrible it would be to face death in that way. How much emotion and fear I might feel. But now, as an adult who works with children I cant help but think "how awful it must have been for those mothers." I can see them in my mind, naked, humiliated, and calmly waiting to be horrifically killed. Did they sing softly to their babies? Did they tell them it would be ok? I can barely stand the knowledge that it happened, but they endured it.
Let us NEVER forget that these terrible things that happened.
If you can look at that and take up a Nazi flag, then there are no "on all sides". There is no "everybody did some bad things" you are holding up an ideology that caused those women to die naked with their babies and be buried still alive in a shallow mass grave.
You cannot refuse to take sides here. There is no middle ground. When nine million people are murdered under an ideology its time to be done with that ideology.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 16, 2017 15:01:02 GMT -5
Found on FB: August 14 at 9:24am · From an actual resident of Charlottesville: "There seems to be a perception from people outside of Charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right" banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not. A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked kkk. A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on their way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the alt-right folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested. So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging eachother on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents (which treated both sides... turns out the alt right erst didn’t bring any medics. Guess they planned on doing all the injuring), water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending." I've seen first hand accounts that weren't as favorable to the counter protestors. Like I said, I have no doubt that the alt-rift was joe to stir up shit. If they were ignored I believe it would have ended. Where we disagree is on the intent of the counter-protestors. I believe a good percentage were also looking to stir up shit. Either way, my ass would not be at a protest where I expected issues...well, it wouldn't be at any protest because I find them silly
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 16, 2017 15:02:50 GMT -5
Only ONE side is celebrating the violence and it's not the counter protesting side. It's the Nazis & KKK who are happy about the violence. Making videos talking about being GLAD that Heather Heyer died. Bragging about how there will be more violence and more deaths. There's only 1 side doing that. And I will NOT ignore Nazi's marching in our streets. I will NOT ignore the KKK marching in our streets. I will NOT stick my head in the sand because it doesn't affect me. It affects those I love & care about. I will not ignore the hatred being praised by a so call "president" until it affects me. I will stand out and scream out how wrong it is. Scream all you want. It won't change any of the hatred any of these round spew. If it makes you feel better, counter protest. I think that is giving hate groups what they want but hey, if it makes you happy then do it
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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2017 15:05:50 GMT -5
Found on FB: August 14 at 9:24am · From an actual resident of Charlottesville: "There seems to be a perception from people outside of Charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right" banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not. A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked kkk. A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on their way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the alt-right folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested. So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging eachother on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents (which treated both sides... turns out the alt right erst didn’t bring any medics. Guess they planned on doing all the injuring), water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending." I've seen first hand accounts that weren't as favorable to the counter protestors. Like I said, I have no doubt that the alt-rift was joe to stir up shit. If they were ignored I believe it would have ended. Where we disagree is on the intent of the counter-protestors. I believe a good percentage were also looking to stir up shit. Either way, my ass would not be at a protest where I expected issues...well, it wouldn't be at any protest because I find them silly But what about teh parts where they surrounded a church, surrounded a synogogue, beat a black guy in a parking garage, and breaking into black people's homes? are they just supposed to take it? And i generally will not go to a protest. But if it's in my backyard adn threatening, me, my family, my community, I'm there.
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Post by midjd on Aug 16, 2017 15:12:01 GMT -5
How about at church? Or sitting in your house (in a majority-black neighborhood) when they come marching down your street? Harder to ignore people when they have your building surrounded and are screaming threats at you, which is what happened in Charlottesville.
The ability to ignore white supremacists is a type of privilege, and not everyone has that privilege.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 16, 2017 15:25:42 GMT -5
I've seen first hand accounts that weren't as favorable to the counter protestors. Like I said, I have no doubt that the alt-rift was joe to stir up shit. If they were ignored I believe it would have ended. Where we disagree is on the intent of the counter-protestors. I believe a good percentage were also looking to stir up shit. Either way, my ass would not be at a protest where I expected issues...well, it wouldn't be at any protest because I find them silly But what about teh parts where they surrounded a church, surrounded a synogogue, beat a black guy in a parking garage, and breaking into black people's homes? are they just supposed to take it? And i generally will not go to a protest. But if it's in my backyard adn threatening, me, my family, my community, I'm there. Nope...at that point the police/national guard need to shut it down
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Post by swamp on Aug 16, 2017 15:27:45 GMT -5
But what about teh parts where they surrounded a church, surrounded a synogogue, beat a black guy in a parking garage, and breaking into black people's homes? are they just supposed to take it? And i generally will not go to a protest. But if it's in my backyard adn threatening, me, my family, my community, I'm there. Nope...at that point the police/national guard need to shut it down It takes the National Guard at least 48 hours to mobilize. Lots of damage can happen in that period of time. Which is why cops will often be told to stand down. There are more protesters (both sides) than cops. They're outmanned. And often outgunned.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Aug 16, 2017 16:26:33 GMT -5
The National Guard cannot arrest people. They provide heavy equipment and manpower for a show of force. They also don't have as much civil disobedience training like police do.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 16, 2017 16:43:23 GMT -5
Nope...at that point the police/national guard need to shut it down It takes the National Guard at least 48 hours to mobilize. Lots of damage can happen in that period of time. Which is why cops will often be told to stand down. There are more protesters (both sides) than cops. They're outmanned. And often outgunned. Not going to lie, that is quite scary to know that if a riot breaks out (regardless of which crazy side starts it) we are not equipped to deal with it. Perhaps the national guard should have been called in ahead of time?
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Post by jkapp on Aug 16, 2017 18:11:30 GMT -5
Seriously, it seems like just about every elected Republican has stated that Teump is wrong here. That hate groups and those opposing hate groups are not equivocal. Those clinging to that premise here ... So hate and violence is ok as long as its hating and being violent to someone else that hates. So, then its ok to hate and be violent on the counter protestors? I'm just trying to follow the liberal logic here, but, as always, its like that Reality lithograph from M.C. Escher...
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Post by jkapp on Aug 16, 2017 18:17:02 GMT -5
Yes both sides are violent, but the biggest difference in all of this that so many people are failing to understand:
BLM/Antifa = fighting for equality KKK/Nazi = fighting for superiority
There is a HUGE difference in the two. It saddens me that so many cannot see this! It also saddens me how the left seemingly has no problem with the riots, destruction of property, and assassinations of police officers brought about by the "equality" groups. Its like they ignore they ever happened... And many of the Alt-Right members and their families are now getting death threats from people...again, showing just how "peaceful" these counter-protestors are. But I'm sure you'll find anther way to ignore such actions.
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Post by jkapp on Aug 16, 2017 18:23:03 GMT -5
Look at how the neo Nazis came, many armed, shields, masks and ready for battle. Look at how the protesters came, many in T shirts, shorts and athletic shoes. So don't tell me the neo Nazis just wanted a peaceful march. How many shots did they fire with those guns? And the shields are an issue because they should just take the pelting of items being thrown at them? I wouldn't want these guys protesting in my town either, but I also wouldn't grab blunt instruments, chemical bombs, and masks and start fights with them either...you know, like the people wearing the T-Shirts, shorts and athletic shows did.
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Post by Opti on Aug 16, 2017 18:23:09 GMT -5
Seriously, it seems like just about every elected Republican has stated that Teump is wrong here. That hate groups and those opposing hate groups are not equivocal. Those clinging to that premise here ... So hate and violence is ok as long as its hating and being violent to someone else that hates. So, then its ok to hate and be violent on the counter protestors? I'm just trying to follow the liberal logic here, but, as always, its like that Reality lithograph from M.C. Escher... I don't think you are trying to follow the logic at all. Oped's URL just above your post is pretty worthwhile. It explains the antifa groups are violent as well, but in numbers and impact much smaller than the violent parts of the alt-right. And the reining in the violent alt-right should have the good effect of decreasing the violence of the alt-right and lessening the need for the antifa groups to even exist.
Win win. At least for some of us.
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Post by jkapp on Aug 16, 2017 18:24:57 GMT -5
No. You should not confront crazy, mean and/or unbalanced persons with weapons. That is the epitome of stupidity. If your plans are to go to a protest where you need to defend yourself with weapons, and you aren't in law enforcement, don't go. It's that simple. There are other ways to fight this craziness and most of them are along the lines of not giving them the attention they crave. This should have gone unnoticed - ignored - not given any credence whatsoever. They are going to gain absolutely nothing from these protests unless we give them what they are begging for - attention and press. Now someone is dead and they are all over the news. Just great. Now they can attract even more crazies. Both sides came to fight and they got what they wanted. Both sides are to blame.
I take these people and the damage they can do very seriously. When they hurt people and do damage, they need to be held accountable in a court of law. They have always been around and they are never going to go away. This isn't new. People like to pretend this is all because of the current administration and while I do believe these people may be emboldened right now - it still isn't new. We can fight them by living our every day lives caring about one another. Treating each other with respect. By not allowing the sins of the past and the crazies of the present tell us any different. As someone said, be the example of the change you want to see in others. That example shouldn't be coming to a protest armed and with the intent of hurting people.
Under "normal" circumstances I would agree with you, wholeheartedly. But this isn't anywhere near normal. T his type of evil sees acquiescence as tacit approval, and it only grows when it is not challenged. Since the election of Trump these types have felt increasingly bold about coming out in the open and proclaiming proudly who they are. It is as though child molesters coalesced under NAMBLA and held a victory march through town celebrating molestation. If good people do not challenge these beliefs then they are somehow "normalized". As it is, I don't believe that young woman's death is in vain. This event has shown the harsh light of reality on what those people represent and just who they are. They are not action figures with cool guns and interesting costumes. They are evil goons and wannabe killers, torturers and rapists. They must be exposed for what they are. This week has been a wake up call to America. Will we heed the warning? SO finally the left sees why so many of us had an issue with the president refusing to call out Islamic Extremism? Too bad it took so long as the Islamist Extremists became more bold...
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Post by jkapp on Aug 16, 2017 18:28:22 GMT -5
If you want to know how and why the alt right differs from other protest groups wander out to their channels on 4chan, 8chan and reddit. It won't take long to get the message. You won't find that much free-flowing hatred anywhere else. I've heard it every day since Jan 20th...where have you been? I also heard it for many years prior to 2008 when it mysteriously went silent for 8 years
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Post by jkapp on Aug 16, 2017 18:35:53 GMT -5
So hate and violence is ok as long as its hating and being violent to someone else that hates. So, then its ok to hate and be violent on the counter protestors? I'm just trying to follow the liberal logic here, but, as always, its like that Reality lithograph from M.C. Escher... I don't think you are trying to follow the logic at all. Oped's URL just above your post is pretty worthwhile. It explains the antifa groups are violent as well, but in numbers and impact much smaller than the violent parts of the alt-right. And the reining in the violent alt-right should have the good effect of decreasing the violence of the alt-right and lessening the need for the antifa groups to even exist.
Win win. At least for some of us.
And how were they being reined in by the counter-protestors? All that happened was they were given a much larger audience than they would have had otherwise. And at what point do we rein in these other violent groups? AFTER they've become as bad as the Alt-Right? Because right now they just seem to be let to do as they please.
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Post by Opti on Aug 16, 2017 18:44:35 GMT -5
Yes both sides are violent, but the biggest difference in all of this that so many people are failing to understand:
BLM/Antifa = fighting for equality KKK/Nazi = fighting for superiority
There is a HUGE difference in the two. It saddens me that so many cannot see this! It also saddens me how the left seemingly has no problem with the riots, destruction of property, and assassinations of police officers brought about by the "equality" groups. Its like they ignore they ever happened...And many of the Alt-Right members and their families are now getting death threats from people...again, showing just how "peaceful" these counter-protestors are. But I'm sure you'll find anther way to ignore such actions. I am sick of those lies. I don't think anyone was pro riots or destruction of property except the people who did it. You'll have to show me the manifesto of the BLM where it advocated killing police officers.
There are going to always be individuals who do bad and stupid things. Its like some people can't seem to understand that. They need people to beat their chest and sob woe is us apparently more times than most people are willing to. I'm sick of the hypocrisy. Where the heck is all the wailing and chest beating about Trump trying to equate a collection of groups who did 74% of hate group related murders to the anti-fa which has done 2%?
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Post by Opti on Aug 16, 2017 18:52:58 GMT -5
I don't think you are trying to follow the logic at all. Oped's URL just above your post is pretty worthwhile. It explains the antifa groups are violent as well, but in numbers and impact much smaller than the violent parts of the alt-right. And the reining in the violent alt-right should have the good effect of decreasing the violence of the alt-right and lessening the need for the antifa groups to even exist.
Win win. At least for some of us.
And how were they being reined in by the counter-protestors? All that happened was they were given a much larger audience than they would have had otherwise. And at what point do we rein in these other violent groups? AFTER they've become as bad as the Alt-Right? Because right now they just seem to be let to do as they please. We as a society have to rein them in. Counter protesting isn't going help much and can make it worse. They got a larger audience because of Mr. Fields and his Dodge Charger. I didn't read about any of this until that happened.
You don't seem to give a shit about reining in the alt-right violence. Why is reining in the antifa which are using the same tactics more important?
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No. He doesn't get it. It's not worth it. Just ignore him.
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Cross posting for the third time cuz I can... thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346771-direct-descendant-of-robert-e-lee-denounces-white-nationalistsFrom the article: "There's no place for that hate," Robert E. Lee V, the general's great-great-grandson, told Newsweek in an interview. In an earlier written statement on Tuesday, Lee and his sister, Tracy Lee Crittenberger, condemned the white nationalist groups and said their Confederate ancestor would not have tolerated such behavior. "At the end of the Civil War, he implored the nation to come together to heal our wounds and to move forward to become a more unified nation," the statement reads. "He never would have tolerated the hateful words and violent actions of white supremacists, the KKK, or Neo Nazis." Lee told Newsweek that it would make "good sense" to move Confederate statues and monuments like the one in Charlottesville to museums, which would allow them to be put in historical context. And that's pretty much close to a mic drop on this subject.
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They killed Kenny, the bastards.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Aug 16, 2017 21:52:44 GMT -5
No. He doesn't get it. It's not worth it. Just ignore him. Thank you for keeping me from responding to so many posts since I was away for hours.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 16, 2017 22:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Aug 16, 2017 23:14:28 GMT -5
I didn't want to start a new thread so I'm posting this here - if it's okay. I'm sorry it's so long but didn't want those that can't click on the link miss anything. This guy is seriously cracking me up. We all knew they were cowards but this guy takes the cake! Mr. Big talk with his pistol ready for violence but now wants to be peaceful. And he's saying he's a good guy but has a record and is afraid the police will kill him. Video in link below. Anybody have sympathy for him? No? Nobody? I sure don't. White Supremacist cries over possible arrest"A neo-Nazi who said he was “ready for violence” at the deadly rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, has released footage of himself weeping after learning there is allegedly a warrant out for his arrest. Christopher Cantwell, who was followed during the gathering of neo-Nazis, KKK, white supremacists and alt-right for a 22-minute documentary for VICE, showed off his guns to journalist Elle Reeve and boasted: “I'm carrying a pistol, I go to the gym all the time, I'm trying to make myself more capable of violence.” However, in mobile phone footage uploaded to YouTube on Wednesday, Cantwell said he was terrified after learning the police wanted to speak with him. “I have been told there’s a warrant out for my arrest,” he said on the video. “With everything that’s happening, I don’t think it’s very wise for me to go anywhere. There’s a state of emergency. The National Guard is here!” “I want to be peaceful. I want to be law-abiding. That was the whole entire point of this,” Cantwell continues. “I’m watching CNN talk about this as a violent, white nationalist protest. We have done everything in our power to keep this peaceful!” he added. The neo-Nazi, who said in the VICE interview that he would like to see someone “more racist than Trump” in the White House, with his ideal candidate for president being someone who did not “give his daughter away to a Jew,” provided a contact number for police to get in touch if there was a warrant out for his arrest. “If I can confirm you are in fact law enforcement I will give you my location and let you come and get me. I am armed, I do not want violence with you. I’m terrified, I’m afraid you’re going to kill me, I really am,” he said. “If I gotta go to jail today, you know it won’t be the f**king first time… I honestly believe I have been law-abiding. I have been engaged in violence, I have, there’s no question about it and I’ve done nothing to hide that but it was in defense of myself and others and I would not have done it for any other reason,” he added." www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-supremacist-cries-over-possible-arrest-warrant/ar-AAqdjlW?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=spartandhp
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