OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 15, 2017 11:25:28 GMT -5
So dondub, do you have any apts older than 2014 you are probably poisoning the children by the standards you post here!
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Post by dondub on Aug 15, 2017 11:33:02 GMT -5
None of my units have children living in them.
Do you believe that there is a history of industry polluting our air, soil, and water? Do you believe any of these have caused cancers and leukemia clusters?
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 15, 2017 19:06:09 GMT -5
Now for a serious question, We continue to make the air cleaner, the water cleaner, are more aware of chemicals in out environment.
Why is Autism increasing?
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 15, 2017 20:32:48 GMT -5
Now for a serious question, We continue to make the air cleaner, the water cleaner, are more aware of chemicals in out environment. Why is Autism increasing? I don't think it is. I think the perceived increase in cases of autism is a mirage brought on by an increase in diagnosed cases due to changes in diagnostic criteria. I'm aware that's not a popular viewpoint because it doesn't nail down some identifiable cause we can fight against. At this point, we don't know what causes the problems seen in those on the autistic spectrum. There may be more than one cause.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 15, 2017 21:16:34 GMT -5
Now for a serious question, We continue to make the air cleaner, the water cleaner, are more aware of chemicals in out environment.
Why is Autism increasing?You know what causes autism?? I'm impressed!! You have a PhD in neurobiology? Even the experts don't yet know what causes it, but they're leaning towards genetics, Fragile X syndrome, rubella in pregnancy, untreated phenylketonuria and a host of other possible factors.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 15, 2017 21:18:09 GMT -5
Now for a serious question, We continue to make the air cleaner, the water cleaner, are more aware of chemicals in out environment. Why is Autism increasing? I don't think it is. I think the perceived increase in cases of autism is a mirage brought on by an increase in diagnosed cases due to changes in diagnostic criteria. I'm aware that's not a popular viewpoint because it doesn't nail down some identifiable cause we can fight against. At this point, we don't know what causes the problems seen in those on the autistic spectrum. There may be more than one cause. I agree. It's being far more diagnosed, instead of just keeping your children away from that "weird kid".
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 15, 2017 21:27:14 GMT -5
Now for a serious question, We continue to make the air cleaner, the water cleaner, are more aware of chemicals in out environment. Why is Autism increasing? I don't think it is. I think the perceived increase in cases of autism is a mirage brought on by an increase in diagnosed cases due to changes in diagnostic criteria. I'm aware that's not a popular viewpoint because it doesn't nail down some identifiable cause we can fight against. At this point, we don't know what causes the problems seen in those on the autistic spectrum. There may be more than one cause. And I think they should look more closely at GMO'd foods that are going into our babies/children at earlier ages than ever before. Also, all the "s*it" they give milk cows to produce more milk...glysophate (roundup) has been found in children, we didn't have that years ago...also found in adult bodies. The majority of field crops are gown on chemical fertilizers, chemical pesticides, chemical herbicides, chemical fungicides....and we wonder why there are more medical problems
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Post by kadee79 on Aug 15, 2017 21:28:43 GMT -5
OC, what about all the plumbing that is PVC piping & joints...and no solder? I've only seen copper & pvc used around here.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 15, 2017 22:06:40 GMT -5
Now for a serious question, We continue to make the air cleaner, the water cleaner, are more aware of chemicals in out environment. Why is Autism increasing? OC-your question is akin to asking the question 'Why did the number of cases of ALzheimer's Disease increase after 1910-1911.' A few years back, I was researching my mother's paternal side of her family. I came across an 1890 U.S. census record which included my great-great-grandfather's name on it. He was a resident of an insane asylum in Iowa. I believe I also came across a death certificate for him and he died in the insane asylum in 1895. I know nothing about my mother's paternal grandfather's health, mental or physical. Died probably from old age. I forget. And my mother's father died young at the age of 65. My mom had Alzheimer's Disease (AD) and died 9 years ago from it. My mother also had a half-brother born from her father's first marriage. Mom's half brother also developed and died from AD. I wonder if my great-great grandfather also had AD. And I wonder if it is genetic and can be passed down through the family. The reason I bring all that family history up is because AD was not discovered to be a separate brain disease until 1906 after German scientist Alois Alzheimer had been monitoring one particular mental hospital patient for a number of years and then studied her post-death brain and identified amyloid plaques and neurofibrillary tangles. These brain anomalies would later be markers for AD The disease was not formally given a name (AD) and recognized by the medical community until 1910-1911. So in 1895 when my great-great grandfather died in the Iowan mental hospital, he just died of some mental disease or unknown cause as did everyone else before him and after him with the same symptoms until 1910-1911 when doctors finally were able to say someone died from AD. As more and more news and information about AD spread around the world, so did the number of cases. People were dying left and right from AD before 1910 but the symptoms and a name for it were simply not known back then. The same holds true to mmhmm's explanation about autism. More is known as time goes on.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 15, 2017 22:12:55 GMT -5
I don't think it is. I think the perceived increase in cases of autism is a mirage brought on by an increase in diagnosed cases due to changes in diagnostic criteria. I'm aware that's not a popular viewpoint because it doesn't nail down some identifiable cause we can fight against. At this point, we don't know what causes the problems seen in those on the autistic spectrum. There may be more than one cause. And I think they should look more closely at GMO'd foods that are going into our babies/children at earlier ages than ever before. Also, all the "s*it" they give milk cows to produce more milk...glysophate (roundup) has been found in children, we didn't have that years ago...also found in adult bodies. The majority of field crops are gown on chemical fertilizers, chemical pesticides, chemical herbicides, chemical fungicides....and we wonder why there are more medical problems And flame retardant from virtually everything coursing through our veins. We don't have to be afraid of hell, anymore.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 15, 2017 22:13:33 GMT -5
Over the past 25 years, polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs) have been used as flame retardants in a wide range of consumer goods you probably already have in your home: textiles, mattresses, carpets, furniture and electronics. Once they're in your home, they tend to shed into house dust, which then gets picked up on your hands and clothes and breathed in through your lungs. Although we are still figuring out just what PBDEs do to the human body—and at what doses—there are some things we already know. For example, we know that they disrupt the body's use and regulation of thyroid hormones. These hormones are critical for brain development in the womb and early childhood. PBDEs also have an unfortunate knack for sticking around in the environment, our food supply and in our body—particularly fatty tissue, including the brain, which is 60 percent lipids. For that reason, the Environmental Protection Agency now classifies PBDEs as persistent organic pollutants. www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-you-need-to-know-about-flame-retardants/
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 16, 2017 10:00:03 GMT -5
I've read something fairly recently about autism that showed some very interesting (and obviously wrong) correlations about the connections between autism and GMOs, and other factors. Some of the comparisons are really interesting and show how something correlating with something else doesn't necessarily indicate a connection between the two. I'll try to find the article again. If I can find it, I'll post it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 16, 2017 18:47:47 GMT -5
I've read something fairly recently about autism that showed some very interesting (and obviously wrong) correlations about the connections between autism and GMOs, and other factors. Some of the comparisons are really interesting and show how something correlating with something else doesn't necessarily indicate a connection between the two. I'll try to find the article again. If I can find it, I'll post it. It's SO easy to make false correlations. Look at the farmer suicides in India. People were howling it was because of GMO crops, when in fact, farmers started committing suicide in droves about 17 years before GMO crops were introduced in India. It's kind of like blaming teenage opioid addiction on fidget spinners. I'm a tree-hugging environmentalist. The people who know me are shocked that I won't condemn GMO. I just haven't seen any clear evidence. There were a couple of very flawed studies, but that's not evidence. Until I see that evidence, I can't condemn them, just because it will fit nicely into my "agenda".
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Post by busymom on Aug 16, 2017 19:02:13 GMT -5
As a parent of a child on the spectrum, I've noticed that the number of children in our district is up, and increasing. For example, there will be more children labeled as autistic graduating this year, than when DS graduated, and there are even more coming up. It's still more boys than girls, but the numbers in our small district are almost unbelievable. (And we've only got one high school. I can't imagine what the big districts deal with.)
I've got a number of theories on autism, but I haven't yet ruled out chemicals in our environment. In fact, in my own personal history, I worked for a company that had chemicals on site for both carpet cleaning and lawn care. So yes, in addition to owning furniture that had been pre-treated to be stain resistant, I worked where the actual drums of those chemicals was on the company premises. I haven't been able to rule out a lot of other possibilities, though, either...
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