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Post by NastyWoman on May 17, 2017 20:40:23 GMT -5
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Post by Rob Base 2.0 on May 17, 2017 20:48:12 GMT -5
... will ... followers believe it? .. followers will never believe he is guilty ... will never believe he is innocent The only people influence-able are ... I like how you all attack me but give steff a pass See that little "?" at the end of her sentence? She asked a question. You stated how others would react. Right, she asked a question (loaded question BTW) and I answered it.
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Post by Rob Base 2.0 on May 17, 2017 20:50:24 GMT -5
I like how you all attack me but give steff a pass You weren't attacked. Opti quoted your post but used the words "people" and "peeps", not your name. I should have better said my post was "reacted to" or "seemed to offend some" but that there was no similar reaction to Steff's post.
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Post by Rob Base 2.0 on May 17, 2017 20:53:22 GMT -5
I like how you all attack me but give steff a pass Perhaps, when you put on your Rob glasses and make pronouncements, you precede it with IMO-
I think you are totally wrong that only 30% do not have their mind made up. IMO, probably less than 40% have very hardened views on this.
Of course it's my opinion. If I wrote it and it is not an actual fact it has to be my opinion. No need to write IMO, unless for extra emphasis. I disagree on percentages, the country is very divided after the election.
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Post by billisonboard on May 17, 2017 20:58:55 GMT -5
You weren't attacked. Opti quoted your post but used the words "people" and "peeps", not your name. I should have better said my post was "reacted to" or "seemed to offend some" but that there was no similar reaction to Steff's post. You "reacted to" steff's post, I "reacted to" your post. I mean really, what do we think this is, a forum for people to "react to" things people post? How could we be so ridiculous!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 20:59:42 GMT -5
Have you read the transcript of them laughing about Russia hacking no the DNC?
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Post by billisonboard on May 17, 2017 21:01:40 GMT -5
Have you read the transcript of them laughing about Russia hacking no the DNC? No. Do you have a link that includes who "them" are.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 21:07:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 21:09:10 GMT -5
I think Putin paying trump was a joke... till they lied about it on the record repeatedly before being told there was a recording...
But they KNEW Russia hacked the dnc... and laughed about it.
It just struck me as, ... maybe it's just me.
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Post by Opti on May 17, 2017 21:16:47 GMT -5
I think Putin paying trump was a joke... till they lied about it on the record repeatedly before being told there was a recording... But they KNEW Russia hacked the dnc... and laughed about it. If they laughed after they knew someone in the DNC fell for a phishing scam, I somewhat understand it. However, in any organization of significant size, its almost a given someone will be gullible or lazy enough to fall for one.
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Post by thyme4change on May 17, 2017 21:24:58 GMT -5
I didn't see anything about how the DNC was hacked, just that it was. No mention of an idiot who fell for a scam. In fact, no mention of what kind of thing caused the hack at all.
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Post by steff on May 17, 2017 21:26:48 GMT -5
I think Putin paying trump was a joke... till they lied about it on the record repeatedly before being told there was a recording... But they KNEW Russia hacked the dnc... and laughed about it. It just struck me as, ... maybe it's just me. But Ryan saying basically "you prove you're part of our family by not repeating it outside" (paraphrasing) kills the idea that it's a joke. Add to that Ryan denying it happened 3 times in a row UNTIL the reporter says "we've heard the tape", THEN he claims it was a joke. The insistence to keep it secret & the denial until told there's proof of it negates the "it's a joke" IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 21:41:07 GMT -5
I didn't see anything about how the DNC was hacked, just that it was. No mention of an idiot who fell for a scam. In fact, no mention of what kind of thing caused the hack at all. They said it was Russia though. Laughing. After just saying how Russia was using maniacle propaganda to try to turn the Ukraine against itself.
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Post by countrygirl2 on May 17, 2017 22:04:31 GMT -5
It's all bad sorry stuff and shows how low our legislators will sink to have power. We should be afraid of all of them.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 18, 2017 9:02:20 GMT -5
Does this replace the House and Senate investigations? I believe those are separate investigations.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 18, 2017 16:38:59 GMT -5
I like how you all attack me but give steff a pass Perhaps, when you put on your Rob glasses and make pronouncements, you precede it with IMO-
I think you are totally wrong that only 30% do not have their mind made up. IMO, probably less than 40% have very hardened views on this.
Less than 40% would claim so, but that's because they expect to be proven right, in which case it will be impossible to disprove.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 19:56:48 GMT -5
I can't find that Anne about him reporting payments? Can you direct me? Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 20:18:43 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 20:22:43 GMT -5
Anne, click on the link they provide...?
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Gardening Grandma
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 18, 2017 20:43:55 GMT -5
What I read was the Clinton Foundation received money. That's very different than the Clintons personally benefitting. Plus tbe fact that the Clintons rekeased their taxes and as a non profit, the Clinton Foundation's finances are public. Very different from tbe secretive Trump situation. Perhaps if Trump released his taxes, there might be a comparison, but as long as he keeps his secret, there can be no comparison.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 18, 2017 21:25:03 GMT -5
I think the bigger problem is Trump's secretivness, the lies his Team have already told, and his refusal to release his taxes.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 19, 2017 19:36:17 GMT -5
trump White House looking to have Mueller removed as special counsel or weaken his findings. White House looking at ethics rule to weaken special investigation -sourcesThe Trump administration is exploring whether it can use an obscure ethics rule to undermine the special counsel investigation into ties between President Donald Trump's campaign team and Russia, two people familiar with White House thinking said on Friday. Trump has said that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's hiring of former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to lead the investigation "hurts our country terribly." Within hours of Mueller's appointment on Wednesday, the White House began reviewing the Code of Federal Regulations, which restricts newly hired government lawyers from investigating their prior law firm’s clients for one year after their hiring, the sources said. An executive order signed by Trump in January extended that period to two years. Mueller's former law firm, WilmerHale, represents Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner, who met with a Russian bank executive in December, and the president's former campaign manager Paul Manafort, who is a subject of a federal investigation. Complete articlechere: White House looking at ethics rule to weaken special investigation -sources
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on May 20, 2017 7:31:12 GMT -5
If true, this may be the fastest response to an ethics issue by this White House...
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 20, 2017 11:00:03 GMT -5
If true, this may be the fastest response to an ethics issue by this White House... No joke Fired comey and now trying to shut down the special counsel? I thought trump would be a disaster, but for everything to unravel this quickly, to be this bad, never would have expected it.
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Post by tallguy on May 20, 2017 11:30:04 GMT -5
If true, this may be the fastest response to an ethics issue by this White House... No joke Fired comey and now trying to shut down the special counsel? I thought trump would be a disaster, but for everything to unravel this quickly, to be this bad, never would have expected it. Yeah, as I said a few days ago:
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Post by dondub on May 20, 2017 12:03:08 GMT -5
At least he didn't bow to the Saudis!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 20, 2017 12:34:53 GMT -5
If true, this may be the fastest response to an ethics issue by this White House... No joke Fired comey and now trying to shut down the special counsel? I thought trump would be a disaster, but for everything to unravel this quickly, to be this bad, never would have expected it. And telling the Russians that the firing "greatly releived" the pressure of the Russia investigation... Wanna bet?
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Post by countrygirl2 on May 20, 2017 12:44:04 GMT -5
Listening to Rachel Maddow last night there are all kinds of ways he can stop this investigation, legal ways. I bet he does, it will leave the country in a big mess and divided like crazy.
A problem with Mueller as his firm represents Krushner and Manaport, so issues already. I swear all of them up there are related to each other or connected in everyway.
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