President Trump's speech to Congress

[Green Eyed Lady]

Mar 1, 2017 7:40:20 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

It was a surprisingly good speech, showing that the President has agreed to be "reigned in" at least for that moment, and follow a script. Much relief through the country I'm sure that he didn't go in there and prattle away like a wacko at a Trump rally. His delivery was good, and he made some powerful points. The relief on the faces of the happy Republican leaders was palpable.

There was much I disagreed with, and as would befit Donald there was plenty of bluster about what he had done personally, but given that he was trying to rally the troops and the country, well it largely worked, I thought. 

My critiques will follow, I'm sure, but I was relieved that he could come across as a grown up.

I wasn't able to watch last night so I was glad to see your post. You seem to live in the real world and try to rate things fairly so I always look for your "takes" when I'm unable to listen for myself.  Appreciate your appraisal.

I tried to read up on last night's speech but everything started with who stood up and who sat down.  Yeah...don't care.

[djAdvocate]

Mar 1, 2017 13:42:03 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

I don't want him to set the country on fire either. I bet few if any people do.  I think a few things are starting to come into focus now, ahead of the formal roll out of the budget proposal, for what he is planning to do.


1. Deficits don't matter.  He wants to spend 1T on infrastructure, increase the military spending by over 50B per annum, build a wall and increase domestic security.  I know he will make "terrific" negotiations, but still, he has few plans for cuts, and those will be opposed by even some Republicans, so his plans will result in greatly expanded deficits. 

2. Immigration policy has some flexibility.  Those illegal aliens already here will "possibly" be allowed to stay, pending negotiations.  This means they will.  In the meantime, the vilification of criminal illegals will continue.

3. America First is an ongoing theme.  Some of this is rhetorical, but some of it already has some practical application.  PTT has been nixed.  NATO countries are being pressured to pay their share.  Foreign aid and expenditures will be slashed in his budget. 

4. Not only is the ACA on the chopping block, but he is quickly abandoning his pledge to provide insurance for all.  Key words last night were to "make insurance obtainable by everyone".  This will be quite a battle to watch play out, as even some Republicans are hesitant to cut health insurance for millions of people.

agree with two small addenda:

1) his proposed framework for the ACA will be MORE expensive than the ACA. 
2) his proposed tax cuts will make deficits even larger than they would be without tax cuts.

everything he has said so far will make deficits far worse.  but this guy has never been opposed to debt.  as he freely admits, there was a point in his business career where his debt outweighed his assets.

probably before one of his vaunted bankruptcies. 

[Deleted]

Feb 28, 2017 23:58:17 GMT -5 haapai said:

There was something really creepy about the applause after Carryn Owens was panned to.  There was something slightly metronomic about the sustained applause that she received.  I watched on NBC and I swear to that their mic picked up the lead/metronomic applause and when that mechanical "applaud now" signal ceased, the applause, which had been amazingly sustained, died out without any kind of dignified tail. 

At which point POTUS had a quip that was not about him, cued up for the moment that the applause died down. 

I was quite moved.  The dogs dived under furniture. 

Creepy to me was seeing who sat out the applause to the grieving widow.
Politics before compassion.
Sad.

[billisonboard]

Mar 1, 2017 13:23:12 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

...
I tried to read up on last night's speech but everything started with who stood up and who sat down.  Yeah...don't care.

Sometimes it is good to read it for yourself:

PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP'S ADDRESS TO A JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS Remarks as prepared for delivery

This one appears to be "as given" and includes commentary:  Trump's first address to joint session of Congress, annotated

[swamp]

Mar 1, 2017 13:22:29 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oh swamp. I love you like a fat kid loves cake, but you know that "most people I know" is absolutely no representation of our national reality. Only about 30% of immigration have college degrees - which is in the ballpark of all Americans. And about half of illegal immigrants don't even have a high school equivalent education.

I know.

We aren't a hot bed of illegal immigration here, or immigration at all.    The only illegals that I'm aware of (maybe) are on the dairy farms, and I think they are a mix.   Most are professionals because we can't find skilled people who want to live at the ass end of nowhere. 

Just giving a different perspective on immigration. 

Trump's voiced plan (as opposed to what he really is going to do) would be devastating to my area.    

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 1, 2017 14:53:14 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Feb 28, 2017 23:58:17 GMT -5 haapai said:

There was something really creepy about the applause after Carryn Owens was panned to.  There was something slightly metronomic about the sustained applause that she received.  I watched on NBC and I swear to that their mic picked up the lead/metronomic applause and when that mechanical "applaud now" signal ceased, the applause, which had been amazingly sustained, died out without any kind of dignified tail. 

At which point POTUS had a quip that was not about him, cued up for the moment that the applause died down. 

I was quite moved.  The dogs dived under furniture. 

Creepy to me was seeing who sat out the applause to the grieving widow.
Politics before compassion.
Sad.

I don't remember the cameras showing pictures of the Dems..applauding, not applauding...actually mostly on the rostom and those there..military chiefs...few shots of audience and many of the widow and those around her...saw no shots of dems and am sure u are making that up..am sure the were honoring her and the late chief  as much as anyone was...

[swamp]

Mar 1, 2017 14:53:14 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Feb 28, 2017 23:58:17 GMT -5 haapai said:

There was something really creepy about the applause after Carryn Owens was panned to.  There was something slightly metronomic about the sustained applause that she received.  I watched on NBC and I swear to that their mic picked up the lead/metronomic applause and when that mechanical "applaud now" signal ceased, the applause, which had been amazingly sustained, died out without any kind of dignified tail. 

At which point POTUS had a quip that was not about him, cued up for the moment that the applause died down. 

I was quite moved.  The dogs dived under furniture. 

Creepy to me was seeing who sat out the applause to the grieving widow.
Politics before compassion.
Sad.

Caveat:  I did not watch the speech.

However, just reading about it, it seems there is no "good" response for the grieving widow.   Applause seems just wrong.    Just having her there seems wrong.  

[Tennesseer]

SNOPES:  Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?


An unrelated image of Keith Ellison and Debbie Wasserman Schultz was apparently used to claim Democrats refused to honor a Navy SEAL's widow during a presidential speech.


Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?

[Tennesseer]

This should really piss off trump:


Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Even the reality TV President couldn't make record-high TV ratings a reality for his first major speech.

More than 43 million people tuned into President Trump's address before a joint session of Congress Tuesday night — a number nearly 9 million short of the amount who watched former President Barack Obama's in 2009.

According to early Nielsen data, 43.4 million people watched Trump's speech on broadcast and cable news networks.

Fox News drew the largest audience, with 10.8 million tuning in, while NBC and CBS followed, with 9.1 million and 7.2 million viewers respectively. ABC, CNN, FOX (broadcast) and MSNBC came in next, with 6.1 million, 3.9 million, 3.1 million and 2.7 million viewers, respectively, according to Nielsen.

By comparison, a total of 52.4 million viewers watched Obama's address to a joint session of Congress in 2009.

Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

[Wisconsin Beth]

I didn't watch. I was coping with a puking child. Poor kid almost fell asleep with her head in the puke bowl, she was so worn out.

[thyme4change]

Mar 1, 2017 16:09:17 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 1, 2017 13:22:29 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Oh swamp. I love you like a fat kid loves cake, but you know that "most people I know" is absolutely no representation of our national reality. Only about 30% of immigration have college degrees - which is in the ballpark of all Americans. And about half of illegal immigrants don't even have a high school equivalent education.

I know.

We aren't a hot bed of illegal immigration here, or immigration at all.    The only illegals that I'm aware of (maybe) are on the dairy farms, and I think they are a mix.   Most are professionals because we can't find skilled people who want to live at the ass end of nowhere. 

Just giving a different perspective on immigration. 

Trump's voiced plan (as opposed to what he really is going to do) would be devastating to my area.    

We are a hotbed of illegal immigration and I think it would be pretty bad for us too - maybe. I don't really know.

However, I really don't believe that building the wall will be effective. Where a wall would be effective, they already have a wall. If they really want to make that boarder tight, the money would be better spent on agents. They are more nimble against the creativity that materializes when a wall is built. A wall just stand there. They have all day and all night to figure out how to defeat it. Border patrol agents are less consistent. They may be patrolling here or there, they may be hiding out waiting. You never know. But the wall - pfft - we know exactly where it is and how high it is, and how deep the footers are. Easy peasy.

I have mixed feelings about illegal immigration - but I'm crystal clear on how I feel about the wall. Waste of money.

[NastyWoman]

Mar 1, 2017 8:00:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Feb 28, 2017 23:20:14 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Since he read someone else's words and didn't say anything of his own I guess it was a good speech. 

I honestly believe, if this was not his feelings, it would not have been in the speech.
You could be correct though, because I do not think Putin or Russia was mentioned once
Political pundits even on MSNBC and CNN gave him props for the speech last night.
CNN grudgingly so, but props none the less.

Caveat: I did not watch the speech last night, thereby contributuing to the "deficit" in viewer numbers compared to the Obama 2009 speech. So I have nothing to rely on but the comments on here but I am SOOOO confused. With the continuing insistence of the republican posters on this board claiming that MSNBC and CNN only put out "Fake News" does the fact that MSNBC and CNN gave Trump props for the speech mean that this speech was in fact horrible?  If you did wrong/bad means you did good, then you did good has to mean that was abysmal right?

 just asking for clarification...

[weltschmerz]

Mar 1, 2017 10:29:57 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Trump: Nations around the world, like Canada, Australia and many others –- have a merit-based immigration system.  It is a basic principle that those seeking to enter a country ought to be able to support themselves financially.  Yet, in America, we do not enforce this rule, straining the very public resources that our poorest citizens rely upon.  According to the National Academy of Sciences, our current immigration system costs America’s taxpayers many billions of dollars a year.

Switching away from this current system of lower-skilled immigration, and instead adopting a merit-based system, will have many benefits: ...

This is one that could have an interesting impact on our young college graduates. Details should looked at closely.

Canada doesn't really have a merit-based system anymore.
We'll take anybody and everybody, as long as you sneak in across the border.

[haapai]

Mar 1, 2017 16:12:26 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 1, 2017 14:53:14 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Creepy to me was seeing who sat out the applause to the grieving widow.
Politics before compassion.
Sad.

Caveat:  I did not watch the speech.

However, just reading about it, it seems there is no "good" response for the grieving widow.   Applause seems just wrong.    Just having her there seems wrong.  

Here's a link to an article that may help you articulate what was wrong.  I don't agree with every bit of the article, but it does provide a bit of backstory.

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/03/donald_trump_s_appropriation_of_ryan_and_carryn_owens_was_a_disgrace.html

[dezailoooooo]

Feb 28, 2017 22:48:09 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Well, I think most would admit it was a solid speech where he did not go over the deep end tonight.
Not the greatest of all time, but definitely better than many that have been given over the years.
Trump remained solid to his campaign promises and made it clear he is welling to work on some compromises.

I give him a B+
And seeing Nancy Pelosi near tears was just a bonus.

uh Value...you do know he said numerouse whoppers in his speech last night...believe they are called lies....seems he does it a lot...but before Congress...he must have a lot of respect for our legislative branch....there were 13 of them...all explained in easily understood english...

As a die hard supporter of the man...possible u can explain why he would do that...wait...asking to much of u as far as what the Donald is thinking...How about why supporters after seeing his constant lieing they still msake excuses for him...support hum...appreciate any explanation///I mean come on...13 big ones and before Congress??

www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/02/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-address-to-congress/?utm_term=.64b08b26c1db&wpisrc=nl_most-draw14&wpmm=1
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Fact-checking President Trump’s address to Congress

By Glenn Kessler and Michelle Ye Hee Lee February 28 at 11:35 PM

President Trump repeated some unfounded claims, and said a few new ones, during his joint address on Feb. 28. 

An address to Congress is such an important speech that presidents generally are careful not to stretch the truth. The “16 words” in George W. Bush’s 2003 State of the Union address that falsely claimed Iraq’s Saddam Hussein sought uranium from Africa led to significant turmoil in the administration, including the criminal conviction of a top aide.

President Trump’s maiden address to Congress was notable because it was filled with numerous inaccuracies. In fact, many of the president’s false claims are old favorites that he trots out on a regular, almost daily basis. Here’s a roundup of 13 of the more notable claims, in the order in which the president made them
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Just one of the mis truths of the thirteen found in his address....

“Since my election, Ford, Fiat Chrysler, General Motors, Sprint, SoftBank, Lockheed, Intel, Walmart and many others have announced that they will invest billions of dollars in the United States and will create tens of thousands of new American jobs.”

Trump again takes credit for business decisions made before his election.

Ford’s decision to abandon its plans to open a factory in Mexico and instead expand its Michigan plant has more to do with the company’s long-term goal — particularly its plans to invest in electric vehicles — than with the administration. Ford chief executive Mark Fields said about the company’s decision to abandon plans to open a factory in Mexico: “The reason that we are not building the new plant, the primary reason, is just demand has gone down for small cars.”

Sergio Marchionne, the Fiat Chrysler chief executive, said his company’s plan to invest $1 billion for a factory in Michigan had been in the works for more than a year and had nothing to do with Trump. Marchionne credited instead talks with the United Auto Workers.

Japanese company SoftBank announced its $100 billion technology investment fund three weeks before the U.S. elections, when Trump faced a narrow path to victory. After a December 2016 meeting with President-elect Trump, SoftBank announced that $50 billion would go to the United States. But the United States outpaces all other countries in venture capital investments, and it is questionable that none of the $100 billion would have gone to the vibrant and promising tech industry in America — regardless of whether Trump was elected.

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Another biggie..misspoke or as Mom taught me...a outright lie...

“Ninety-four million Americans are out of the labor force.”

This is an absurd Four-Pinocchio claim, based on a real number. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, relying on a monthly survey known as the Current Population Survey (CPS), shows that, as of January 2016, 94.4 million Americans 16 years and older were “not in labor force.”

How is this number developed? Well, there is a civilian noninstitutional population of 254.1 million people, and 159.7 million are in the labor force. The difference yields the 94.4 million figure.

But the unemployment rate is only 4.8 percent because just 7.6 million people actively are looking for a job and cannot find one. They are considered part of the overall labor force. In other words, you have to be seeking a job to be counted in the labor force.

Who are the 94 million not in the labor force? The BLS has data for the year 2015. It turns out that 93 percent do not want a job at all. The picture that emerges from a study of the data shows that the 95 million consists mostly of people who are retired, students, stay-at-home parents or disabled.

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Suggest keep reading...there are still 11 more mistakes..un truths...ok, outright lies according to my Moms definition and I always go along with my Moms beliefs...lady was never wrong.....

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 1, 2017 17:52:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This should really piss off trump:


Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Even the reality TV President couldn't make record-high TV ratings a reality for his first major speech.

More than 43 million people tuned into President Trump's address before a joint session of Congress Tuesday night — a number nearly 9 million short of the amount who watched former President Barack Obama's in 2009.

According to early Nielsen data, 43.4 million people watched Trump's speech on broadcast and cable news networks.

Fox News drew the largest audience, with 10.8 million tuning in, while NBC and CBS followed, with 9.1 million and 7.2 million viewers respectively. ABC, CNN, FOX (broadcast) and MSNBC came in next, with 6.1 million, 3.9 million, 3.1 million and 2.7 million viewers, respectively, according to Nielsen.

By comparison, a total of 52.4 million viewers watched Obama's address to a joint session of Congress in 2009.

Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Wow...I am so out of it I guess...not afraid to admit it...not changing my viewing habits either...but CNN my media station only had 3.9.hmmm  [what is the two Fox's...Fox news...Fox{broadcast}?]

[Tennesseer]

Mar 1, 2017 22:10:45 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Mar 1, 2017 17:52:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This should really piss off trump:


Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Even the reality TV President couldn't make record-high TV ratings a reality for his first major speech.

More than 43 million people tuned into President Trump's address before a joint session of Congress Tuesday night — a number nearly 9 million short of the amount who watched former President Barack Obama's in 2009.

According to early Nielsen data, 43.4 million people watched Trump's speech on broadcast and cable news networks.

Fox News drew the largest audience, with 10.8 million tuning in, while NBC and CBS followed, with 9.1 million and 7.2 million viewers respectively. ABC, CNN, FOX (broadcast) and MSNBC came in next, with 6.1 million, 3.9 million, 3.1 million and 2.7 million viewers, respectively, according to Nielsen.

By comparison, a total of 52.4 million viewers watched Obama's address to a joint session of Congress in 2009.

Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Wow...I am so out of it I guess...not afraid to admit it...not changing my viewing habits either...but CNN my media station only had 3.9.hmmm  [what is the two Fox's...Fox news...Fox{broadcast}?]

Beside Fox News channel, Fox also has a channel with its own entertainment shows just like ABC, NBC, and CBS. Also has local news too.

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 1, 2017 22:16:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Mar 1, 2017 22:10:45 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Wow...I am so out of it I guess...not afraid to admit it...not changing my viewing habits either...but CNN my media station only had 3.9.hmmm  [what is the two Fox's...Fox news...Fox{broadcast}?]

Beside Fox News channel, Fox also has a channel with its own entertainment shows just like ABC, NBC, and CBS. Also has local news too.

Ha...never knew...anything except for sports I stay away from...the Sports must be shown on that station..never noticed...thanks Tenn...learn something every day

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 1, 2017 17:22:47 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

SNOPES:  Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?


An unrelated image of Keith Ellison and Debbie Wasserman Schultz was apparently used to claim Democrats refused to honor a Navy SEAL's widow during a presidential speech.


Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?

As I said , the country is so split....the sides...reason I say sides...believe either side will do what ever it takes uncluding of course the lies and untruths to on the other side...firmly believe that if violence broke out between the two sides I wouldn't be surprised..Perfect example this BS on who stood..who clapped in memory for the fallen chief....and our leader is doing nothing to bring the two sides together..believe he is incapable of so doing..

Future generations will look back on this time of the countrys history if we still are around as a country as it is constituted today and say a Pox on both your houses...u disgraced us all...yourselves..your earlier country men and the future...for shame on u all.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 2, 2017 0:29:22 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Mar 1, 2017 17:22:47 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

SNOPES:  Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?


An unrelated image of Keith Ellison and Debbie Wasserman Schultz was apparently used to claim Democrats refused to honor a Navy SEAL's widow during a presidential speech.


Did Democrats Refuse to Stand for a Navy SEAL's Widow?

As I said , the country is so split....the sides...reason I say sides...believe either side will do what ever it takes uncluding of course the lies and untruths to on the other side...firmly believe that if violence broke out between the two sides I wouldn't be surprised..Perfect example this BS on who stood..who clapped in memory for the fallen chief....and our leader is doing nothing to bring the two sides together..believe he is incapable of so doing..

Future generations will look back on this time of the countrys history if we still are around as a country as it is constituted today and say a Pox on both your houses...u disgraced us all...yourselves..your earlier country men and the future...for shame on u all.

Some news is breaking about Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Let's see what is reported in the morning. May have lied under oath to the Senate.

Sessions met with Russian envoy twice last year, encounters he later did not disclose

[Deleted]

Mar 1, 2017 16:12:26 GMT -5 swamp said:

Mar 1, 2017 14:53:14 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Creepy to me was seeing who sat out the applause to the grieving widow.
Politics before compassion.
Sad.

Caveat:  I did not watch the speech.

However, just reading about it, it seems there is no "good" response for the grieving widow.   Applause seems just wrong.    Just having her there seems wrong.  

I'm fairly sure she thought long and hard on being there and didn't decide to participate on a whim.
Applause , standing O, in show of support and  appreciation of the courage ,bravery and sacrifice those in the military and family members  make is never wrong imo  and it's something we should do more of , not less.

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 2, 2017 12:14:01 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

Mar 1, 2017 16:12:26 GMT -5 swamp said:

Caveat:  I did not watch the speech.

However, just reading about it, it seems there is no "good" response for the grieving widow.   Applause seems just wrong.    Just having her there seems wrong.  

I'm fairly sure she thought long and hard on being there and didn't decide to participate on a whim.
Applause , standing O, in show of support and  appreciation of the courage ,bravery and sacrifice those in the military and family members  make is never wrong imo  and it's something we should do more of , not less.

Since the father was against meeting the President...I do hope this difference in feelings on the topic does not affect their relationship...there are three kids involved...I alsoi hope the President didn't get involved here just to make himself look good...am sure the reaction of the chiefs father irked him and don't trust him to just accept a criticism with out getting his lb of flesh...splitting the family would be find by him, not needing to go to twitter..

Sorry I don't trust the man one iota and it's own fault..his mouth...his tweets...his actions.

[Value Buy]

Mar 1, 2017 22:10:45 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Mar 1, 2017 17:52:04 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

This should really piss off trump:


Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Even the reality TV President couldn't make record-high TV ratings a reality for his first major speech.

More than 43 million people tuned into President Trump's address before a joint session of Congress Tuesday night — a number nearly 9 million short of the amount who watched former President Barack Obama's in 2009.

According to early Nielsen data, 43.4 million people watched Trump's speech on broadcast and cable news networks.

Fox News drew the largest audience, with 10.8 million tuning in, while NBC and CBS followed, with 9.1 million and 7.2 million viewers respectively. ABC, CNN, FOX (broadcast) and MSNBC came in next, with 6.1 million, 3.9 million, 3.1 million and 2.7 million viewers, respectively, according to Nielsen.

By comparison, a total of 52.4 million viewers watched Obama's address to a joint session of Congress in 2009.

Trump’s address to joint session of Congress clocks in at 9 million viewers shy of Obama’s 2009 speech

Wow...I am so out of it I guess...not afraid to admit it...not changing my viewing habits either...but CNN my media station only had 3.9.hmmm  [what is the two Fox's...Fox news...Fox{broadcast}?]

And yet, if we watch or quote Fox news here we are the Devil's spawn........
There is a reason no one is watching CNN, and they used to be the market leader, but that is back in the day when they were run by a southern redneck based out of Atlanta.......

[dezailoooooo]

Mar 3, 2017 11:40:02 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Mar 1, 2017 22:10:45 GMT -5 dezailoooooo said:

Wow...I am so out of it I guess...not afraid to admit it...not changing my viewing habits either...but CNN my media station only had 3.9.hmmm  [what is the two Fox's...Fox news...Fox{broadcast}?]

And yet, if we watch or quote Fox news here we are the Devil's spawn........
There is a reason no one is watching CNN, and they used to be the market leader, but that is back in the day when they were run by a southern redneck based out of Atlanta.......

Turner was a Red Neck??  Naaaaa...and no, never with Fox....makes me want to shower just thinking about it...turned on MSNBC last night...intrtesting show and people...will have to watch a bit more but Fox...never....

As far as all those folks watching Fox...a dumbing down of our populace, that is what I see...which allowed a Donald with his constant lies...to us , to Congress....to be elected....

Do I need to get that link on the 13 lies he spoke in front of Congress for u to catch up on..?  Ok, just give me a minute..

There ya go...told u it would only take a minute...interesting thing about the Donald...could talk about so many things yet feels has to fill up valuable communication time with American public with lies and more lies that even a school child...say upper middle schooler could find out...


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