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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 25, 2016 13:18:23 GMT -5
I am really tired, so I took today off, The next couple of weeks are going to be hard, lots of new installs. that sounds profitable. congratulations. we are actually starting to slow down slightly, which is good. i have a trip coming up.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 26, 2016 7:35:37 GMT -5
I like how Clinton is portrayed both as a puppet with one foot in the grave being manipulated by 'handlers' who tell her what to say and where to go, while at the same time she's vilified as the antichrist, pulling strings backstage to have her enemies murdered in order to seize the presidency.
Seems like her detractors should organize themselves and figure out which type of monster they want to declare her to be, and stop flip flopping. Or maybe they like that flip flopping. Or maybe they're just used to constant flip flopping. Hard to tell.
I would say the same applies to Trump. He's either the greatest con that ever lived, or he's a political neophyte with no idea how anything works. Great con man.
Easy peasy.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2016 9:58:16 GMT -5
There's no time for a "what about Trump?" political tit for tat. The situation with Hillary Clinton must be urgently dealt with, or that will be "IT" for the Democratic party and the mainstream media. They're already teetering on the edge of the abyss. By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: Still checking the obits. Anything yet?
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Post by Opti on Oct 3, 2016 10:01:20 GMT -5
There's no time for a "what about Trump?" political tit for tat. The situation with Hillary Clinton must be urgently dealt with, or that will be "IT" for the Democratic party and the mainstream media. They're already teetering on the edge of the abyss. By the way- advanced stages of Parkinson's is all but certain. I have a friend writing a piece for Newswire right now- his hope is he can publish it before she dies in a few weeks- the crux of it: Still checking the obits. Anything yet? Trump is still alive.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2016 10:03:03 GMT -5
Still checking the obits. Anything yet? Trump is still alive. Careful-you might be charged with living shaming.
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Post by Opti on Oct 3, 2016 10:15:32 GMT -5
Trump is still alive. Careful-you might be charged with living shaming. Oh, sorry. I suppose I was supposed to make something up about his health, like a cardiac incident was imminent and its a wonder he's still upright. At least the sniffles are gone ... for now.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2016 10:18:28 GMT -5
Careful-you might be charged with living shaming. Oh, sorry. I suppose I was supposed to make something up about his health, like a cardiac incident was imminent and its a wonder he's still upright. At least the sniffles are gone ... for now. Now you're sniffle shaming people. Stop it. JUST STOP IT!
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Post by Opti on Oct 3, 2016 10:18:57 GMT -5
Without doing a search for it, who's shoe was it? I don't think you would have posted this if you already didn't know. I don't know if anyone has owned up to it being their shoe. Its not necessary. Hillary was photographed at the memorial wearing two matched black flats. The one at the curb was black quilted with leopard print. Clearly someone else's shoe.
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Post by Opti on Oct 3, 2016 10:20:18 GMT -5
Oh, sorry. I suppose I was supposed to make something up about his health, like a cardiac incident was imminent and its a wonder he's still upright. At least the sniffles are gone ... for now. Now you're sniffle shaming people. Stop it. JUST STOP IT! Not true. At most I am contemplating being on Sniffle Watch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 19:15:14 GMT -5
I would say the same applies to Trump. He's either the greatest con that ever lived, or he's a political neophyte with no idea how anything works. Great con man.
Easy peasy.
Aren't the best politicians con men and con women though?
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Post by dondub on Oct 3, 2016 20:09:29 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 20:28:37 GMT -5
Barack Obama - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hillary Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) George Bush - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Al Gore - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Nancy Pelosi - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Bill Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hmmm... funny. But reality doesn't agree with you. *professional liar in this use means that they lie as part of their job, and people believe them. All of them I listed have done it INTENTIONALLY and all of them have been believed (until their lies were proven to be lies).
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Post by dondub on Oct 3, 2016 20:31:37 GMT -5
Aren't the best politicians con men and con women though?
As I said....no. I also don't recall mentioning anyone on your list as being amongst the 'best politicians'. So my reality remains intact and doesn't need any of your input. If you want to think they are all liars and con men you have that right, which I support btw.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 20:39:42 GMT -5
Sorry I wasn't clear on this. "Best" meant "best at being a politician"... not "best at doing what's good or right for the country or whatever demographic they were elected to cover"
Those that I listed are arguably some of the best politicians in our lifetime. And they are all consummate con-people. They tell us their lies and many of us buy it... enough to get them elected anyway.
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Post by dondub on Oct 3, 2016 20:42:59 GMT -5
Thanks for completely changing the meaning of your assertion.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 3, 2016 20:47:38 GMT -5
Great con man.
Easy peasy.
Aren't the best politicians con men and con women though? The best? Probably not. The most common? Most definitely.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Oct 3, 2016 21:07:50 GMT -5
Great con man.
Easy peasy.
Aren't the best politicians con men and con women though? Only the most electable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:12:08 GMT -5
Thanks for completely changing the meaning of your assertion. Apparently Virgil and mmhmm understood... so I guess I actually DIDN'T change the meaning of it. You just didn't (or couldn't be bothered to) understand it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 3, 2016 21:15:31 GMT -5
Barack Obama - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hillary Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) George Bush - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Al Gore - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Nancy Pelosi - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Bill Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hmmm... funny. But reality doesn't agree with you. *professional liar in this use means that they lie as part of their job, and people believe them. All of them I listed have done it INTENTIONALLY and all of them have been believed (until their lies were proven to be lies). in our marketing meeting today, our marketing consultant shared a quote with us: "the only difference between a salesman and a con man is that a con man only looks out for themselves."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:21:54 GMT -5
Barack Obama - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hillary Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) George Bush - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Al Gore - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Nancy Pelosi - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Bill Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hmmm... funny. But reality doesn't agree with you. *professional liar in this use means that they lie as part of their job, and people believe them. All of them I listed have done it INTENTIONALLY and all of them have been believed (until their lies were proven to be lies). in our marketing meeting today, our marketing consultant shared a quote with us: "the only difference between a salesman and a con man is that a con man only looks out for themselves." With very few exceptions... I have to agree with that. Problem is that in most cases the salesman isn't looking out for the sucker he/she sells to... he's/she's looking out for his/her employer. I once heard a joke along those same lines though... The only difference between a con man and a politician is... wait a second... I know there's a difference... it'll come to me... give me a minute... There's got to be one... Oh yeah! now I remember! When a con man gets caught he goes to jail... when a politician gets caught he gets reelected.
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Post by dondub on Oct 3, 2016 22:53:22 GMT -5
Apparently Virgil and mmhmm understood... so I guess I actually DIDN'T change the meaning of it. You just didn't (or couldn't be bothered to) understand it.
I apologize for your incapability to understand my simple no answer. Now go insult somebody else before you change the meaning again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 0:07:36 GMT -5
Apparently Virgil and mmhmm understood... so I guess I actually DIDN'T change the meaning of it. You just didn't (or couldn't be bothered to) understand it.
I apologize for your incapability to understand my simple no answer. Now go insult somebody else before you change the meaning again. I understood your "no"... problem was the correct answer was "yes". I haven't insulted anyone. Stating factually what someone is isn't insulting. It may not be nice... but it's not insulting. (ohhh... and I never changed the meaning... Not my fault if you can't understand simple concepts)
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 4, 2016 9:39:34 GMT -5
@richardintn and dondub, that's enough between the two of you. If you don't care for what one another posts, the block feature is yours to embrace. Nobody wants to read an ongoing board battle between two posters. It's only of interest to the two of you. Another option is to take the fight to PMs. It's not conducive to discussion (nor, is it fair to other posters) to continue it here. Thanks, mmhmm, Politics Moderator
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 9:48:24 GMT -5
I'm happy to drop it if he is. It's been in his control the whole time.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Oct 4, 2016 10:06:04 GMT -5
Barack Obama - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hillary Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) George Bush - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Al Gore - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Nancy Pelosi - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Bill Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hmmm... funny. But reality doesn't agree with you. *professional liar in this use means that they lie as part of their job, and people believe them. All of them I listed have done it INTENTIONALLY and all of them have been believed (until their lies were proven to be lies). specifically, on what topics have all those people lied... now useing only as a example and not pointing out for any specific reason..am thinking of two specifics..oral sex , Bill Clinton...para phrasing.." I never had sex with that woman"..in his mind , oral sex is not the same as intercourse... George Bush.."believes Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction thus the invasion of Iraq"...I can see he believed that... useing those as examples..because the ones you acuse of lying were mistaken in their beliefs do not make them liers in my book and if they did not at times tell "all the truth so help me G-D"..in their positions..with the "right to Know" being part of their responsibility..[remember ex military here at one time]...I believe in that, " not all things do I [ or you or others..]have a right to know..."
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 4, 2016 12:51:32 GMT -5
Barack Obama - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hillary Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) George Bush - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Al Gore - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Nancy Pelosi - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Bill Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hmmm... funny. But reality doesn't agree with you. *professional liar in this use means that they lie as part of their job, and people believe them. All of them I listed have done it INTENTIONALLY and all of them have been believed (until their lies were proven to be lies). You forgot Donald Trump - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Lies through his teeth what ever job he's running or running for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 19:30:47 GMT -5
Barack Obama - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hillary Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) George Bush - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Al Gore - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Nancy Pelosi - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Bill Clinton - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Hmmm... funny. But reality doesn't agree with you. *professional liar in this use means that they lie as part of their job, and people believe them. All of them I listed have done it INTENTIONALLY and all of them have been believed (until their lies were proven to be lies). You forgot Donald Trump - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Lies through his teeth what ever job he's running or running for. LOL... actually I hadn't. He's not "officially" a politician YET, as he's not been elected YET. This list was about the best politicians at being politicians.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 4, 2016 19:44:50 GMT -5
You forgot Donald Trump - professional liar (a.k.a. con man/woman) Lies through his teeth what ever job he's running or running for. LOL... actually I hadn't. He's not "officially" a politician YET, as he's not been elected YET. This list was about the best politicians at being politicians. I imagine you will completely disagree with the definition for politician, but here are several. pol·i·ti·cianˌpäləˈtiSHən /noun a person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office .synonyms:legislator, elected official, statesman, stateswoman, public servant; PolicianFull Definition of politician 1: a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government2a : a person engaged in party politics as a profession b : a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasonsTrump is surely engaged in party politics as a profession, yes? What greater political profession is there than president of the United States. Politician Merriam Webster
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 20:01:38 GMT -5
LOL... actually I hadn't. He's not "officially" a politician YET, as he's not been elected YET. This list was about the best politicians at being politicians. I imagine you will completely disagree with the definition for politician, but here are several. pol·i·ti·cianˌpäləˈtiSHən /noun a person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office .synonyms:legislator, elected official, statesman, stateswoman, public servant; PolicianFull Definition of politician 1: a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government2a : a person engaged in party politics as a profession b : a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasonsTrump is surely engaged in party politics as a profession, yes? What greater political profession is there than president of the United States. Politician Merriam WebsterNope. Don't disagree... but whether he's qualified to be on such a list will kind of depend on if enough people believe his lies to elect him. All the ones I mentioned have been elected... more than once.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 4, 2016 20:05:22 GMT -5
I imagine you will completely disagree with the definition for politician, but here are several. pol·i·ti·cianˌpäləˈtiSHən /noun a person who is professionally involved in politics, especially as a holder of or a candidate for an elected office .synonyms:legislator, elected official, statesman, stateswoman, public servant; PolicianFull Definition of politician 1: a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government2a : a person engaged in party politics as a profession b : a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasonsSo until they are elected to/win political office, they cannot be considered a politician?Trump is surely engaged in party politics as a profession, yes? What greater political profession is there than president of the United States. Politician Merriam WebsterNope. Don't disagree... but whether he's qualified to be on such a list will kind of depend on if enough people believe his lies to elect him. All the ones I mentioned have been elected... more than once. So until they are elected to/win political office, they cannot be considered a politician?
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