Shooting in German Theatre

[Virgil Showlion]

Estimates are 25 casualties. Info is still sparse and unverified.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-23/heavily-armed-man-large-german-cinema-complex-swat-site

Bears watching.

[happyhoix]

Bears were watching the movie??

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Yes, another tragedy. It's like the US has a mass murder virus and it's escaped to Europe.

[Opti]

Well, the gunman is dead... wonder if it has anything to do with Britain's vote?

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/23/armed-man-opens-fire-at-german-cinema-kinopolis-viernheim

An armed and masked man has reportedly been shot dead by German special police after storming a cinema complex in Viernheim, in Germany’s Hesse region.

According to Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper, the man entered the Kinopolis complex at about 3pm, wearing a mask and carrying a gun and a munition belt. The man is reported to have fired into the air as he entered the cinema.

The motive of the gunman was so far unclear, Frankfurter Allgemeine reported, saying that several scenarios were being considered including a botched robbery, as well as a political or an ideological cause.

[Opti]

Jun 23, 2016 10:44:15 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Bears were watching the movie??

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Yes, another tragedy. It's like the US has a mass murder virus and it's escaped to Europe.

My opinion, but Germany is part of the epicenter when it comes to refugees and immigrants. If I had time to watch the news closely, I'd be watching Germany and the UK closely the next few days.

[gregintenn]

What they need is some damned gun control!

I'm waiting for the usual suspects to come here and blame me for it.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 12:24:07 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

What they need is some damned gun control!

I'm waiting for the usual suspects to come here and blame me for it.

Always the victim, eh?

[gregintenn]

Jun 23, 2016 12:26:42 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 23, 2016 12:24:07 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

What they need is some damned gun control!

I'm waiting for the usual suspects to come here and blame me for it.

Always the victim, eh?

Not among sane people.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 10:34:09 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Estimates are 25 casualties. Info is still sparse and unverified.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-23/heavily-armed-man-large-german-cinema-complex-swat-site

Bears watching.

25 casualties?

A masked man was shot dead Thursday after entering a movie theatre in southwestern Germany with a weapon and taking several hostages, authorities said. No one else was injured.



An armed man entered the Kinopolis movie theatre in the early afternoon in the town of Viernheim and apparently fired a gun, police spokesman Bernd Hochstaedter told N-TV television.



Police shot the suspect dead about three hours later, Hesse Interior Minister Peter Beuth said.


www.cbc.ca/news/world/german-theatre-shooting-1.3649004

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Talk about baiting, the only people here who mentioned the NRA or gun control were Ratchets and greg. 

[Opti]

Jun 23, 2016 12:54:43 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jun 23, 2016 12:32:37 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Talk about baiting, the only people here who mentioned the NRA or gun control were Ratchets and greg. 

but it's a logic test.

If this happened in the US< we'd be hearing calls for gun control.

Germany has gun control FAR stricter than anything proposed and the US and this still happened.

those of us who believe in our rights are saying that gun control doesn't work.

The Orlando guy had a bunch of background checks and passed them.

German guy broke a bunch of laws (likely)

stop worrying about banning guns and focus on the fact that we are at war.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany

They have a national gun registry with required permits for all gun holders AND they have an "assault weapons ban" covering high capacity magazines, scary looking guns, etc.

Its not a logic test. If some posters paid attention its generally politicians that call for more gun control, not posters during these incidents. However, some posters, myself included do agree with some of the gun control measures proposed even if they would not change the incident in question at all.

I have to certify twice a year for SNAP with docs. I have to register my car, get insurance, and every couple years get it inspected. Yet for some reason, having to register guns is a sticking point with some folks.

[Tennesseer]

Jun 23, 2016 12:54:43 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jun 23, 2016 12:32:37 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Talk about baiting, the only people here who mentioned the NRA or gun control were Ratchets and greg. 

but it's a logic test.

If this happened in the US< we'd be hearing calls for gun control.

Germany has gun control FAR stricter than anything proposed and the US and this still happened.

those of us who believe in our rights are saying that gun control doesn't work.

The Orlando guy had a bunch of background checks and passed them.

German guy broke a bunch of laws (likely)

stop worrying about banning guns and focus on the fact that we are at war.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany

They have a national gun registry with required permits for all gun holders AND they have an "assault weapons ban" covering high capacity magazines, scary looking guns, etc.

It seems to happen here in the U.S. every few weeks (mass killings with firearms). It does not seem to happen in Germany every few weeks or months. Major difference. Major.

[billisonboard]

Jun 23, 2016 12:54:43 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

...
stop worrying about banning guns and focus on the fact that we are at war.
...

My guess would be that they are disarming people.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 12:54:43 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jun 23, 2016 12:32:37 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Talk about baiting, the only people here who mentioned the NRA or gun control were Ratchets and greg. 

but it's a logic test.

If this happened in the US< we'd be hearing calls for gun control.

Germany has gun control FAR stricter than anything proposed and the US and this still happened.

those of us who believe in our rights are saying that gun control doesn't work.

The Orlando guy had a bunch of background checks and passed them.

German guy broke a bunch of laws (likely)

stop worrying about banning guns and focus on the fact that we are at war.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany

They have a national gun registry with required permits for all gun holders AND they have an "assault weapons ban" covering high capacity magazines, scary looking guns, etc.

But being in the EU, it has no borders. Anyone can waltz in with a gun.
For the 674th time, gun control is useless without borders. Nobody is checking what comes in.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 13:15:04 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jun 23, 2016 13:10:00 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

But being in the EU, it has no borders. Anyone can waltz in with a gun.
For the 674th time, gun control is useless without borders. Nobody is checking what comes in.

but i'm told by the left that if i want real borders and to keep dangerous people out of my country, that i'm a fascist.

Who told you that?

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 13:57:56 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jun 23, 2016 13:46:12 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Who told you that?

really, really??

have you not seen the INCESSENT calling of Trump a fascist in the American discussion as being a fascist because he wants secure borders?

That's not why he's a fascist.
In any case secure borders are always a good thing. The Great, Amazing, Yuge, Beautiful Wall is ridiculous, however.

[swamp]

Jun 23, 2016 13:57:56 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jun 23, 2016 13:46:12 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Who told you that?

really, really??

have you not seen the INCESSENT calling of Trump a fascist in the American discussion as being a fascist because he wants secure borders?

No, he wants to keep out Hispanics and Muslims, not immigrants.  If he kept out all immigrants, he'd lose his market for wife #4 

[Tennesseer]

Jun 23, 2016 15:06:48 GMT -5 swamp said:

Jun 23, 2016 13:57:56 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

really, really??

have you not seen the INCESSENT calling of Trump a fascist in the American discussion as being a fascist because he wants secure borders?

No, he wants to keep out Hispanics and Muslims, not immigrants.  If he kept out all immigrants, he'd lose his market for wife #4 

Tan Mom's a born and bred American.

[gregintenn]

Jun 23, 2016 14:05:13 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 23, 2016 13:57:56 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

really, really??

have you not seen the INCESSENT calling of Trump a fascist in the American discussion as being a fascist because he wants secure borders?

That's not why he's a fascist.
In any case secure borders are always a good thing. The Great, Amazing, Yuge, Beautiful Wall is ridiculous, however.

Then how would you propose to have a border?

[ArchietheDragon]

Jun 23, 2016 15:15:02 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Jun 23, 2016 14:05:13 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

That's not why he's a fascist.
In any case secure borders are always a good thing. The Great, Amazing, Yuge, Beautiful Wall is ridiculous, however.

Then how would you propose to have a border?

[gregintenn]

Jun 23, 2016 15:17:11 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:15:02 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Then how would you propose to have a border?

In a desert?

[ArchietheDragon]

Jun 23, 2016 15:18:34 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:17:11 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

In a desert?

build  a pool. 

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 15:15:02 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Jun 23, 2016 14:05:13 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

That's not why he's a fascist.
In any case secure borders are always a good thing. The Great, Amazing, Yuge, Beautiful Wall is ridiculous, however.

Then how would you propose to have a border?

Put your soldiers to work patrolling the border. You have the largest military in the world. The Yuge, Beautiful Wall is just stupid, and will probably cost a trillion dollars.
Do you really think Mexico will pay for it?

www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/31/1416884/-So-President-Trump-you-want-a-Great-Great-Wall-let-s-look-at-the-numbers?detail=facebook

[Value Buy]

Jun 23, 2016 15:25:01 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:15:02 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Then how would you propose to have a border?

Put your soldiers to work patrolling the border. You have the largest military in the world. The Yuge, Beautiful Wall is just stupid, and will probably cost a trillion dollars.
Do you really think Mexico will pay for it?

www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/31/1416884/-So-President-Trump-you-want-a-Great-Great-Wall-let-s-look-at-the-numbers?detail=facebook

After President Trump gets done with the Mexican border, I hope he works on the one on our northern border

[Value Buy]

So German authorities say it is just a crazy person with "issues"?

Instead of worrying about gun registration/confiscation, work on mental health containment. 

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 15:32:07 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:25:01 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Put your soldiers to work patrolling the border. You have the largest military in the world. The Yuge, Beautiful Wall is just stupid, and will probably cost a trillion dollars.
Do you really think Mexico will pay for it?

www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/31/1416884/-So-President-Trump-you-want-a-Great-Great-Wall-let-s-look-at-the-numbers?detail=facebook

After President Trump gets done with the Mexican border, I hope he works on the one on our northern border

So do I. If the American populace is stupid enough to vote in that orange bag of crap, I want to be as far removed from them as possible.

[gregintenn]

Jun 23, 2016 15:37:25 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:32:07 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

After President Trump gets done with the Mexican border, I hope he works on the one on our northern border

So do I. If the American populace is stupid enough to vote in that orange bag of crap, I want to be as far removed from them as possible.

The feeling is mutual.

[Value Buy]

Jun 23, 2016 15:37:25 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:32:07 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

After President Trump gets done with the Mexican border, I hope he works on the one on our northern border

So do I. If the American populace is stupid enough to vote in that orange bag of crap, I want to be as far removed from them as possible.

Hopefully he stops all the Canadians from coming here clogging up our health system getting treated for items they cannot get taken care of up north.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 15:42:44 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:37:25 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

So do I. If the American populace is stupid enough to vote in that orange bag of crap, I want to be as far removed from them as possible.

Hopefully he stops all the Canadians from coming here clogging up our health system getting treated for items they cannot get taken care of up north.

 All those Canadians? Lol! It's less than a fraction of one percent. We coming in DROVES!!
Besides, your health care system is for those with money. It doesn't matter whose money, does it?

[gregintenn]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

Actually, ten years ago, a law was enacted to construct a wall/fence along the Mexican border. It was never rescinded, yet remains to be constructed. I'm not sure why.

[weltschmerz]

Jun 23, 2016 15:41:21 GMT -5 gregintenn said:

Jun 23, 2016 15:37:25 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

So do I. If the American populace is stupid enough to vote in that orange bag of crap, I want to be as far removed from them as possible.

The feeling is mutual.

You think he's a toxic, orange bag of crap, too? Good to know!