suggestions for new administration

[uncle23]

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let us first remove the requirement that present welfare recipients continue to prove need...



administrators of welfare will lose their jobs but will get same income as wellfare recipients



cost savings will be given to people working for present minimum wage..



small businesses may continue to pay present minimum wage



welfare recipients who want to earn more may work without penalty



people on minimum wage who lose their jobs will get the same amount as welfare recipients..any funding shortfall will be covered by cuts in military hardware spending

[sesfw]

let us first remove the requirement that present welfare recipients continue to prove need...

administrators of welfare will lose their jobs but will get same income as welfare recipients

cost savings will be given to people working for present minimum wage..

small businesses may continue to pay present minimum wage

welfare recipients who want to earn more may work without penalty

people on minimum wage who lose their jobs will get the same amount as welfare recipients..any funding shortfall will be covered by cuts in military hardware spending



If this is 'tongue-in-cheek' ......... OK

If you are serious ....... you are outta your tree.

I would like to see a time limit for able bodied welfare recipients to receive benefits.  Max of 1 year unless they are attending some kind of skill training.  Graduation within 2 years.

[mroped]

Interesting that first suggestion would be about welfare recipients. If it were addressing the Corporate welfare, I'm game with it!
Believing that "all " welfare recipients choose and love that life style is not just preposterous but to some extent insane!
Are there people that love the welfare and being on it? Sure but that doesn't mean "all"!

Overturning some of the economical treaties/deals made in the last 20 or so years or at least taking a look at those that definetly are disadvantageous to our country.

[uncle23]

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its a leap of faith.....people on welfare will be encouraged to work..not forced to work...less govt intervention...a true safety net for those losing their jobs due to automation and due to less government....

[resolution]

Some of the Scandinavian countries are experimenting with universal basic income, where everyone would get a small stipend regardless of their income or assets. The main problem with this is it costs way more than they make from dismantling the entire welfare system, so it would cost a ton of money if they expand it past small experiments.

[NoNamePerson]

suggestions for new administration

Don't show up 

[Wisconsin Beth]

May 25, 2016 7:28:08 GMT -5 resolution said:

Some of the Scandinavian countries are experimenting with universal basic income, where everyone would get a small stipend regardless of their income or assets. The main problem with this is it costs way more than they make from dismantling the entire welfare system, so it would cost a ton of money if they expand it past small experiments.

somebody is testing it in Africa. I think they said it was going to be a 10 year study. No idea where I saw it through so I can't link to it.

[uncle23]

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it takes small steps to climb a mountain...

[uncle23]

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no salary and benefit increase for elected officials and top level bureaucrats..

[djAdvocate]

anything that results in lower military spending is a good idea. 

(that is tongue in cheek, guys.  don't boil me in lead for it)

[gregintenn]

suggestions for new administration

You don't work, you don't eat. No more public assistance.

Demagnetize America so that illegal aliens will leave.

Stop all foreign aid.

Close the epa, dept of agriculture, dept of education, and the IRS.

Read and adhere to the U.S. Constitution.

 

[dondub]

Deliberately starve children for politic gain.

[Politically_Incorrect12]

May 25, 2016 7:28:08 GMT -5 resolution said:

Some of the Scandinavian countries are experimenting with universal basic income, where everyone would get a small stipend regardless of their income or assets. The main problem with this is it costs way more than they make from dismantling the entire welfare system, so it would cost a ton of money if they expand it past small experiments.

And the COL will increase to offset that for that extra stipend.  

[formerroomate99]

Do something about campaign finance reform.  This is somehting that both Trump and Sanders supporters have in common.  And the fact that these guys have gotten as far as they have should tell the establishment that their days are numbered.  

[jkapp]

May 25, 2016 10:18:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

anything that results in lower military spending is a good idea. 

(that is tongue in cheek, guys.  don't boil me in lead for it)

Only if its accompanied by lower entitlement/welfare spending...just lower spending all around would be nicer.

[djAdvocate]

May 30, 2016 12:46:09 GMT -5 jkapp said:

May 25, 2016 10:18:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

anything that results in lower military spending is a good idea. 

(that is tongue in cheek, guys.  don't boil me in lead for it)

Only if its accompanied by lower entitlement/welfare spending...just lower spending all around would be nicer.

i don't care about the only part, but i would insist that the other stuff was not increased (were it up to me).

[djAdvocate]

May 29, 2016 21:33:40 GMT -5 formerroomate99 said:

Do something about campaign finance reform.  This is somehting that both Trump and Sanders supporters have in common.  And the fact that these guys have gotten as far as they have should tell the establishment that their days are numbered.  

you might look into this (because i am not positive), but i believe that Clinton also expressed an interest in this.  if so, it might actually happen.

[verrip1]

May 24, 2016 20:39:31 GMT -5 uncle23 said:

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let us first remove the requirement that present welfare recipients continue to prove need...



administrators of welfare will lose their jobs but will get same income as wellfare recipients



cost savings will be given to people working for present minimum wage..



small businesses may continue to pay present minimum wage



welfare recipients who want to earn more may work without penalty



people on minimum wage who lose their jobs will get the same amount as welfare recipients..any funding shortfall will be covered by cuts in military hardware spending

Well, count me as surprised.  It seems that I'm not the only poster here who reads the daily Financial Times and expands on it.

[verrip1]

May 25, 2016 10:18:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

anything that results in lower military spending is a good idea. 

(that is tongue in cheek, guys.  don't boil me in lead for it)

Actually, you would not boil in molten lead.  You'd sublime.  Sounds much more appealing, huh?

[djAdvocate]

May 30, 2016 15:23:56 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

May 25, 2016 10:18:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

anything that results in lower military spending is a good idea. 

(that is tongue in cheek, guys.  don't boil me in lead for it)

Actually, you would not boil in molten lead.  You'd sublime.  Sounds much more appealing, huh?

(shudders)

[zibazinski]

No benefits of any kind for non citizens. All departments reduced by ten percent per year until reduced by half. All politicians have their salaries reduced by half and no increases of any kind until budget is balanced. No health insurance or any other perks provided. They need to buy over priced crap insurance just like citizens do. Non citizens that are in our jails/prisons are returned to their country of origin, preferably in a box but returned. That's a beginning.

[weltschmerz]

May 30, 2016 21:58:35 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

No benefits of any kind for non citizens. All departments reduced by ten percent per year until reduced by half. All politicians have their salaries reduced by half and no increases of any kind until budget is balanced. No health insurance or any other perks provided. They need to buy over priced crap insurance just like citizens do. Non citizens that are in our jails/prisons are returned to their country of origin, preferably in a box but returned. That's a beginning.

Got it. So, people like Marc Emery, who was incarcerated for five years in a US federal prison, for the heinous crime of selling mail-order marijuana seeds, should be sent back to Canada in a pine box.
Charming.

[zibazinski]

Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. I seriously don't care about non citizens. Cotizens rights have been trampled in order to make non citizens feel welcome. Housing and feeding another country's criminals is a waste of money. I don't think marijuana should be criminal either but it is and until it isn't don't do it. What was he doing in this country to begin with? Oh, committing a crime? Not visiting or working with a visa or going to school but doing something illegal. Figures you'd take an example like that one. Why don't you clean up your own backyard before pointing fingers at another country's?

[weltschmerz]

May 31, 2016 4:57:22 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. I seriously don't care about non citizens. Cotizens rights have been trampled in order to make non citizens feel welcome. Housing and feeding another country's criminals is a waste of money. I don't think marijuana should be criminal either but it is and until it isn't don't do it. What was he doing in this country to begin with? Oh, committing a crime? Not visiting or working with a visa or going to school but doing something illegal. Figures you'd take an example like that one. Why don't you clean up your own backyard before pointing fingers at another country's?

He wasn't in your country. But, because Americans were buying the seeds through mail order, he was extradited and ended up in a US federal prison.
Nobody up here cared. The Americans, however, threw a hissy fit and demanded that we hand him over.

[weltschmerz]

In any case, do you think America prisoners should be sent home in a pine box from other countries?

For doing something relatively innocuous in the US, like graffiti? Or blasphemy? Or showing too much skin?

Or do you only want it to work in one direction?

[djAdvocate]

May 31, 2016 10:22:51 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

In any case, do you think America prisoners should be sent home in a pine box from other countries?

For doing something relatively innocuous in the US, like graffiti? Or blasphemy? Or showing too much skin?

Or do you only want it to work in one direction?

or, to use a recent example, for hiking.  oh the horror.

[weltschmerz]

May 31, 2016 11:24:26 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 31, 2016 10:22:51 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

In any case, do you think America prisoners should be sent home in a pine box from other countries?

For doing something relatively innocuous in the US, like graffiti? Or blasphemy? Or showing too much skin?

Or do you only want it to work in one direction?

or, to use a recent example, for hiking.  oh the horror.

....or just for being gay. Just being gay in Russia and many other countries could get you arrested and thrown in jail.
I guess it's OK to send gay Americans home in a pine box.

[verrip1]

Poster JoeBanker from the old P&TM used to regularly call for the death penalty for possession or use of any amount of marijuana.  He was serious about this.  Which tells me that there is no idea so ludicrous that some message board poster, somewhere, would not support. 

After all, these boards have Loony.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

1. All non-citizens who cannot document that they are in the United States illegally will be cut off from ALL public benefits. There will be no healthcare, no food subsidies, no schooling, no housing subsidies- nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

3. Effective immediately, illegal aliens will have 30 days to relocate to their country of origin. Minor children may remain as wards of the state until such time as their parents claim them, they become emancipated minors and opt to stay, or their parents have returned legally.

2. Effective immediately, children born in the United States to illegal aliens will be considered citizens of their birth parent's native country. 

3. Day 31: anyone found to be in the United States illegally will serve not less than one year in prison followed by deportation at the expense of their country of origin.

4. Mexico and the rest of Latin America will begin proportionately paying reparations to the United States for ALL costs to the United States associated with illegal immigration dating back to the effective date of Simpson - Mazzoli, in addition of course- to the wall and future violations.

5. Welfare will henceforth be for natural citizens of the United States born to legal US Citizens. Immigrants will be ineligible for ALL state and federal benefits of any kind, including scholarships to public / state / taxpayer funded schools.

6. Welfare will be consolidated into a single program which will pay the equivalent of the median wage directly to anyone who applies for it for any reason and will be available for a total of 60 months per person, period. When it's gone. It's gone.

7. Current drug laws will apply to anyone receiving benefits. For the rest of us: no war on drugs. End. Fin. Done. Over.

[tallguy]

Jun 5, 2016 14:41:29 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

1. All non-citizens who cannot document that they are in the United States illegally will be cut off from ALL public benefits. There will be no healthcare, no food subsidies, no schooling, no housing subsidies- nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

3. Effective immediately, illegal aliens will have 30 days to relocate to their country of origin. Minor children may remain as wards of the state until such time as their parents claim them, they become emancipated minors and opt to stay, or their parents have returned legally.

2. Effective immediately, children born in the United States to illegal aliens will be considered citizens of their birth parent's native country. 

3. Day 31: anyone found to be in the United States illegally will serve not less than one year in prison followed by deportation at the expense of their country of origin.

4. Mexico and the rest of Latin America will begin proportionately paying reparations to the United States for ALL costs to the United States associated with illegal immigration dating back to the effective date of Simpson - Mazzoli, in addition of course- to the wall and future violations.

5. Welfare will henceforth be for natural citizens of the United States born to legal US Citizens. Immigrants will be ineligible for ALL state and federal benefits of any kind, including scholarships to public / state / taxpayer funded schools.

6. Welfare will be consolidated into a single program which will pay the equivalent of the median wage directly to anyone who applies for it for any reason and will be available for a total of 60 months per person, period. When it's gone. It's gone.

7. Current drug laws will apply to anyone receiving benefits. For the rest of us: no war on drugs. End. Fin. Done. Over.

You, uh, maybe wanna check number 1 again?  And is two number 3's enough there or should we squeeze in a couple more?