Remember 9/11 and the attacks

[Jaguar]

[Value Buy]

MSNBC is running the footage from the attacks on the Twin Towers right now.

Fourteen years now..........
I know Iraq was not responsible, but Myself, I do not blame the Bush Administration from blowing something up.

[thyme4change]

Watched one of the documentaries last night.  It seems even more dramatic now than it was then.  Maybe it was a blessing that we only had standard definition 19 inch televisions back then.  Seeing it on a big HD screen gives a slightly different perspective.      

[Tennesseer]

Peace to them all.

[Tennesseer]

It's like a breath-taking punch to my gut each time I see the videos.

[buystoys]

I can't watch the documentaries.

I can't watch the movies.

I intentionally don't turn the news on so I don't hear the names called.

One day, I hope the memories will fade enough that I can.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Sept 11, 2015 8:20:43 GMT -5 buystoys said:

I can't watch the documentaries.

I can't watch the movies.

I intentionally don't turn the news on so I don't hear the names called.

One day, I hope the memories will fade enough that I can.

Ditto.  I work for a fire dept. and they were selling memorial shirts, which can be worn to work.  Can't buy one.  Wouldn't wear it if I did own one.  Some things I just can't do.  Some years are worse than others for me.  This year isn't good but last year wasn't so bad.  The difference is my mental/emotional state. 

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2015 8:20:43 GMT -5 buystoys said:

I can't watch the documentaries.

I can't watch the movies.

I intentionally don't turn the news on so I don't hear the names called.

One day, I hope the memories will fade enough that I can.

When ever you make peace with the events of 9/11, may I recommend the movie, Flight 93 ? I avoided watching the movie for a long time because I was of the opinion a movie could not do justice to what happened on that flight. I was wrong.

A harrowing movie but well worth the watch. You are very proud of the passengers through out the flight's events.

[chiver78]

hugs to buystoys, beth, and anyone else that needs them today.

sent from my electronic distraction

[Value Buy]

Sept 11, 2015 8:20:43 GMT -5 buystoys said:

I can't watch the documentaries.

I can't watch the movies.

I intentionally don't turn the news on so I don't hear the names called.

One day, I hope the memories will fade enough that I can.

I understand your feelings, but our children and grandchildren have to see it to understand the world of today.
Many of my grandchildren are either too young, or were born after this date.
Just reading a textbook in class does not project the humanity and inhumanity that occurred that day.

This was OUR generation's Pearl Harbor, only we saw it live and in color in real time.

[cael]

I can't believe it's been so long, still seems like it just happened. I watched TV that whole day, those images will always be burned into my brain. Awful. I had just started college a few days prior to it, so that was what my entire college experience was framed by.

The 9-11 museum and memorial in NYC is really stunning (I don't know what other word to use...), if anyone has a chance to go.

[Value Buy]

Sept 11, 2015 9:33:05 GMT -5 cael said:

I can't believe it's been so long, still seems like it just happened. I watched TV that whole day, those images will always be burned into my brain. Awful. I had just started college a few days prior to it, so that was what my entire college experience was framed by.

The 9-11 museum and memorial in NYC is really stunning (I don't know what other word to use...), if anyone has a chance to go.

My wife just said an hour ago, we have to visit NYC and see the museum and the new tower.

[cael]

It's absolutely beautiful. I was in NYC a few weeks ago and the new tower's finished, it wasn't the last time I was there last year. Gorgeous. (this photo doesn't do it justice)

[sesfw]

There is nothing wrong with feeling pain as we remember. This date 14 years ago is a part of who we are today.


Rest In Peace

[djAdvocate]

Sept 11, 2015 8:10:32 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

MSNBC is running the footage from the attacks on the Twin Towers right now.

Fourteen years now..........
I know Iraq was not responsible, but Myself, I do not blame the Bush Administration from blowing something up.

...like a petulant child.

good leaders appeal to bravery.
bad ones, to fear.

rot in hell, George W. Bush.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

It always seemed to me that we were attacked by 19 Saudi nationals. We've been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Libya, and countless other places around the globe, but these terrorists were hatched out of the Wahhabi Madrasas in Saudi Arabia (setting aside the fact that Bin Laden himself was a tool of the CIA to counter the Russians in Afghanistan). Now, on the eve of these attacks- we seem determined to give Iran a nuclear weapon. The world has gone mad.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 11, 2015 14:48:18 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

It always seemed to me that we were attacked by 19 Saudi nationals. We've been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Libya, and countless other places around the globe, but these terrorists were hatched out of the Wahhabi Madrasas in Saudi Arabia (setting aside the fact that Bin Laden himself was a tool of the CIA to counter the Russians in Afghanistan).

that is because DC is, as Robert Baer put it, "a Company Town for ARAMCO".  for anyone that does not fully appreciate the meaning of that expression, this might be a good day to absorb it.  otherwise, i can guarantee that 911 won't be the last time we have heard from radical Islam.

[buystoys]

Sept 11, 2015 8:54:50 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Sept 11, 2015 8:20:43 GMT -5 buystoys said:

I can't watch the documentaries.

I can't watch the movies.

I intentionally don't turn the news on so I don't hear the names called.

One day, I hope the memories will fade enough that I can.

When ever you make peace with the events of 9/11, may I recommend the movie, Flight 93 ? I avoided watching the movie for a long time because I was of the opinion a movie could not do justice to what happened on that flight. I was wrong.

A harrowing movie but well worth the watch. You are very proud of the passengers through out the flight's events.

Tennesseer, I have the DVD as well as World Trade.  (I think that's the one about the firemen caught in the WTC.....)  I just haven't been able to watch them. 

I'm just one of those people that gets all choked up, I think.  When I visited the Vietnam Vet Memorial in DC, my throat got tight and I cried the whole walk.  DH and I both refused to go visit the WTC memorial even though it was less than an hour away from us.  Both of us just have too many horrible memories of that day.  His ex-BIL only lived because he overslept and was late going in to work that day. 

I do pray that one day I will be able to view these events through a filter that makes that day less painfully sad.  So many innocent lives lost.  It just overwhelms the mind.

[Value Buy]

Sept 11, 2015 9:58:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Sept 11, 2015 8:10:32 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

MSNBC is running the footage from the attacks on the Twin Towers right now.

Fourteen years now..........
I know Iraq was not responsible, but Myself, I do not blame the Bush Administration from blowing something up.

...like a petulant child.

good leaders appeal to bravery.
bad ones, to fear.

rot in hell, George W. Bush.

We all know how you feel about Bush.
But, I disagree with your description of  "bad ones, to fear".
Fear never entered into it.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 11, 2015 17:38:53 GMT -5 buystoys said:

Sept 11, 2015 8:54:50 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

When ever you make peace with the events of 9/11, may I recommend the movie, Flight 93 ? I avoided watching the movie for a long time because I was of the opinion a movie could not do justice to what happened on that flight. I was wrong.

A harrowing movie but well worth the watch. You are very proud of the passengers through out the flight's events.

Tennesseer, I have the DVD as well as World Trade.  (I think that's the one about the firemen caught in the WTC.....)  I just haven't been able to watch them. 

I'm just one of those people that gets all choked up, I think.  When I visited the Vietnam Vet Memorial in DC, my throat got tight and I cried the whole walk.  DH and I both refused to go visit the WTC memorial even though it was less than an hour away from us.  Both of us just have too many horrible memories of that day.  His ex-BIL only lived because he overslept and was late going in to work that day. 

I do pray that one day I will be able to view these events through a filter that makes that day less painfully sad.  So many innocent lives lost.  It just overwhelms the mind.

I understand.

[zibazinski]

I will never forget. It's shameful that so many have.

[mmhmm]

Sept 11, 2015 17:38:53 GMT -5 buystoys said:

Sept 11, 2015 8:54:50 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

When ever you make peace with the events of 9/11, may I recommend the movie, Flight 93 ? I avoided watching the movie for a long time because I was of the opinion a movie could not do justice to what happened on that flight. I was wrong.

A harrowing movie but well worth the watch. You are very proud of the passengers through out the flight's events.

Tennesseer, I have the DVD as well as World Trade.  (I think that's the one about the firemen caught in the WTC.....)  I just haven't been able to watch them. 

I'm just one of those people that gets all choked up, I think.  When I visited the Vietnam Vet Memorial in DC, my throat got tight and I cried the whole walk.  DH and I both refused to go visit the WTC memorial even though it was less than an hour away from us.  Both of us just have too many horrible memories of that day.  His ex-BIL only lived because he overslept and was late going in to work that day. 

I do pray that one day I will be able to view these events through a filter that makes that day less painfully sad.  So many innocent lives lost.  It just overwhelms the mind.

I, too, am unable to visit such places. To me, it's almost as though they were haunted with the spirits of those lost. I don't believe in ghostly spirits, but that's what I think they'd be like if they existed. It's just too difficult for me. I become overwhelmed. I've been caught unguarded and have entered such places a couple of times. The worst one, for me, was the Piskariovskoye Memorial Cemetery in St. Petersburg (once, Leningrad). Walking along the walks between the mass graves with our guide, I just plain lost it. Tears were pouring down my face. It was a haunting experience but it made me a friend (the guide). We kept in touch until her death a few years ago. She was a child during the siege of Leningrad and had some memories she shared. I am still made uncomfortable by thinking about the experience.

[Malarky]

I post something about this almost every year.  Some of the people on the planes were customers who I saw that morning before they left Boston.  Some of the pregnant widows were/are customers. I see some of the kids who never knew their fathers.  

I can't even think about it most of the time without tearing up.  I can't watch anything related.  It is and was so close to home.  

And all these years later, the thing that always gets to me the most and devastates me when I think about it is how, with the planes coming out of Boston, how the talk was how we would help deal with the survivors.  About how they would be MedFlighted here.  Our ER's would be ready.

And there were no survivors to transport.  

[zibazinski]

[mmhmm]

Sept 11, 2015 20:27:15 GMT -5 Malarky said:

I post something about this almost every year.  Some of the people on the planes were customers who I saw that morning before they left Boston.  Some of the pregnant widows were/are customers. I see some of the kids who never knew their fathers.  

I can't even think about it most of the time without tearing up.  I can't watch anything related.  It is and was so close to home.  

And all these years later, the thing that always gets to me the most and devastates me when I think about it is how, with the planes coming out of Boston, how the talk was how we would help deal with the survivors.  About how they would be MedFlighted here.  Our ER's would be ready.

And there were no survivors to transport.  

I feel your pain. I'm sure many do. 

[Malarky]

And sometimes you stumble upon things like this:

diply.com/article/auntyacid/on-911-a-plane-diverted-to-canada-what-happened-next-still-incredible/1

and you remember all the things that are right about the world.

[mmhmm]

Sept 11, 2015 21:58:56 GMT -5 Malarky said:

And sometimes you stumble upon things like this:

diply.com/article/auntyacid/on-911-a-plane-diverted-to-canada-what-happened-next-still-incredible/1

and you remember all the things that are right about the world.

I'd never read about that before, Malarky. Thanks, so much, for sharing it. Acts of kindness like that one remind us we're all human beings and there are plenty of wonderful ones around.

[Tennesseer]

This is what the USA airspace looked like when the FAA ordered all planes over our airspace to land at the nearest airports and those coming in from Europe to land in Canada.


 

[Tennesseer]

I should mention, and it shows it in the above video, Canada shut down its airspace too.

Canada and 9/11

[chiver78]

Sept 11, 2015 20:27:15 GMT -5 Malarky said:

I post something about this almost every year.  Some of the people on the planes were customers who I saw that morning before they left Boston.  Some of the pregnant widows were/are customers. I see some of the kids who never knew their fathers.  

I can't even think about it most of the time without tearing up.  I can't watch anything related.  It is and was so close to home.  

And all these years later, the thing that always gets to me the most and devastates me when I think about it is how, with the planes coming out of Boston, how the talk was how we would help deal with the survivors.  About how they would be MedFlighted here.  Our ER's would be ready.

And there were no survivors to transport.  

I forgot about this til now. my former engineering Director lost his sister-in-law on one of those flights leaving Boston. for the locals, she was one of the TJX family (I think they lost 5 or 6 people) but the chilling thing for her widower is that he had been an air traffic controller. he was also working that morning, and was clearly able to figure out what was going to happen well in advance. he had been a couple years away from retirement, but his colleagues all combined to donate their vacation time so that he could just retire early. 9/11 was his last day on the job.