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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jun 20, 2015 12:34:33 GMT -5
That punk has hate written all over his face. From the text about him in your link, he's one sicko individual .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 12:51:27 GMT -5
The people of Charleston will not let this little punk pull them down for long. I'm sure it has it's issues like any larger city but it is such a lovely city , full of such lovely people. This won't change that you little effed up dick.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 20, 2015 12:56:38 GMT -5
The people of Charleston will not let this little punk pull them down for long. I'm sure it has it's issues like any larger city but it is such a lovely city , full of such lovely people. This won't change that you little effed up Richard.
Poor Misters Cheney, Clark and Tracy.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jun 20, 2015 13:33:02 GMT -5
Are you okay with the murder of people you think are bad? Is that what you are suggesting should happen? Are you seriously asking me if I think a person who murdered 9 people in cold blood deserves to die? I think the question is are you okay with telling criminals that, this time wink-wink, it is okay for you to kill someone. I prefer to think of it as letting nature sort itself out.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 20, 2015 13:48:16 GMT -5
I think the question is are you okay with telling criminals that, this time wink-wink, it is okay for you to kill someone. I prefer to think of it as letting nature sort itself out.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2015 14:01:38 GMT -5
As I said earlier...what many of us consider a real loser...
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 20, 2015 14:07:25 GMT -5
As I said earlier...what many of us consider a real loser... He looks like he is sitting on an outhouse shitter.
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Post by jarma on Jun 20, 2015 14:07:26 GMT -5
"I was not raised in a racist home or environment."
Maybe he wasn't raised in a racist home, but that may be a matter of perception. There are those who claim no racial animus, often genuinely believing they are not racist, but others may perceive them to be racist. I once had someone say to me, in this argument, that they are not racist. They had no wish for harm to come to African Americans, but they did not and would not accept their any of daughters marrying an African American. Amended with the comment that people should stick with their own kind. This person sincerely believes they are not racist.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2015 14:39:33 GMT -5
time to consider allowing people to carry firearms if they want too...It seems there is to much of this going on..As far as gun controls it has gone to far in my estimation for that to ne effective today...It's estimated that there are over 300 million firearms in the hands of civilens today...My feelings is that is just to hard a number to over come plus the country, right or wrong is gun happy...and it's not going to change. To expect the police to stop these actions before they happen is asking to much of them...they can't be everywhere when these events happen...To be available to be called and hope they arrive to apprehend and stop actions as they are happening..ok..but till they arrive to take charge..it may have to be left to the civilens in the area of the happening. That doesn't mean everyone should have to be a carrier of a weapon. It has to be a voluntary situation but I am thinking a loosening of the ability to get permits to carry...possible pass some exam , safety course...but not make it so hard to get a permit as some states make it today might be the answer. www.courant.com/nation-world/ct-charleston-shooting-20150617-story.html"9 people, including state senator, fatally shot at church in Charleston, S.C"According to eyewitness accounts- one of the survivors- one person killed 9 people in close quarters and re-loaded his weapon 5 times. I'm very sorry for the loss of life here on Wednesday, but a person would have to be quite blinded by their anti-gun ideology not to acknowledge that if ONE person- let alone many- in that room were armed, the outcome would have been different. #RaceWarFail #NotBaltimore btw... Well Paul..{phew} finally again..one person bringing the conversation BACK to the premise of my original purpose of the thread I posted ...To sum up..My change of feeling toward the carrying of weapons..legally..concealed by vented civilians if they CHOSE to do so..should not be mandated..By vented I mean some kind of looking at past history..past doings..some scrutiny by authorities...Not a system where anyone just goes into a retail store..or purchase on the internet and purchase as they would say milk, eggs...condoms... The reason for doing so?..Well there are many..I am a realist..With the reported figure of over 300 million weapons in the hands of US folks..long ones, short ones..the strong feeling of entitlement of so many Americans ..second amendment..The reality of curtailing the amount of weapons in the hands of citizens in any way in my opinion has been lost a long time ago..as said..I am a realist. That's one reason..another , and as important..for some reason or other it SEEMS that there is a up tick in personal violence by some individuals aimed at innocents for what ever reason and to expect armed professionals to always be on site to stop ...especially in some of those venues that these actions have taken place..School..house of worship..Military base..restaurant..sporting event just to name a few..[only one where there was sufficient armed professionals present but since two home made bombs were used ..this professional force never had a clue as to what was going down..]..is not practicle or as found by putting armed professionals into schools after the Sandy Hook incident..for most districts just too financially expensive. If there were volunteer civilians armed present when these things started to happen..the shootings ...possible..no guarantee of but possible the fall out, casualties might be mitigated till the professionals arrived..even if known that there were many non professionals armed at these places..it might dissuade some for doing what they do..
The other side of the coin..the ability of arriving authorities to know who is the bad guy and who the good ones when many people are armed for one...the accuracy of using a hand gun accurately...{ again , I am a realist and a hand gun over 10 feet for most..even less in distance under pressure ...in a crowd, adrenaline pumping..forget it] { some one here just posted that as a present a license to carry given as a gift to his Mom..she is 75...geeze already..we are making this into a game for Chr*st sake..]...and as I found in life..even with much training and schooling...it's a problem for some people to reveal them selves when they return fire on others shooting at them..any kind of incoming..and that is by well trained young folks..today brought up by doing so second nature in the video games they play since they were toddlers..Yet with all that..with what I see as happening and the reality of...I am starting to change my mind on this topic..wondering if it wouldn't be better to make it easier for populace to be weaponized publicly. Thus the premise of the thread..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 15:43:27 GMT -5
According to eyewitness accounts- one of the survivors- one person killed 9 people in close quarters and re-loaded his weapon 5 times. I'm very sorry for the loss of life here on Wednesday, but a person would have to be quite blinded by their anti-gun ideology not to acknowledge that if ONE person- let alone many- in that room were armed, the outcome would have been different. #RaceWarFail #NotBaltimore btw... Well Paul..{phew} finally again..one person bringing the conversation BACK to the premise of my original purpose of the thread I posted ...To sum up..My change of feeling toward the carrying of weapons..legally..concealed by vented civilians if they CHOSE to do so..should not be mandated..By vented I mean some kind of looking at past history..past doings..some scrutiny by authorities...Not a system where anyone just goes into a retail store..or purchase on the internet and purchase as they would say milk, eggs...condoms... The reason for doing so?..Well there are many..I am a realist..With the reported figure of over 300 million weapons in the hands of US folks..long ones, short ones..the strong feeling of entitlement of so many Americans ..second amendment..The reality of curtailing the amount of weapons in the hands of citizens in any way in my opinion has been lost a long time ago..as said..I am a realist. That's one reason..another , and as important..for some reason or other it SEEMS that there is a up tick in personal violence by some individuals aimed at innocents for what ever reason and to expect armed professionals to always be on site to stop ...especially in some of those venues that these actions have taken place..School..house of worship..Military base..restaurant..sporting event just to name a few..[only one where there was sufficient armed professionals present but since two home made bombs were used ..this professional force never had a clue as to what was going down..]..is not practicle or as found by putting armed professionals into schools after the Sandy Hook incident..for most districts just too financially expensive. If there were volunteer civilians armed present when these things started to happen..the shootings ...possible..no guarantee of but possible the fall out, casualties might be mitigated till the professionals arrived..even if known that there were many non professionals armed at these places..it might dissuade some for doing what they do..
The other side of the coin..the ability of arriving authorities to know who is the bad guy and who the good ones when many people are armed for one...the accuracy of using a hand gun accurately...{ again , I am a realist and a hand gun over 10 feet for most..even less in distance under pressure ...in a crowd, adrenaline pumping..forget it] { some one here just posted that as a present a license to carry given as a gift to his Mom..she is 75...geeze already..we are making this into a game for Chr*st sake..]...and as I found in life..even with much training and schooling...it's a problem for some people to reveal them selves when they return fire on others shooting at them..any kind of incoming..and that is by well trained young folks..today brought up by doing so second nature in the video games they play since they were toddlers..Yet with all that..with what I see as happening and the reality of...I am starting to change my mind on this topic..wondering if it wouldn't be better to make it easier for populace to be weaponized publicly. Thus the premise of the thread..
After reading what you have written here deziloooooo I'm not sure I understand why you think is a game to encourage an elderly parent to be trained to use a weapon (gun) if one is needed by them. This an age thing for you? Only the young are capable? Do you know them?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 20, 2015 15:45:30 GMT -5
As I said earlier...what many of us consider a real loser... One of the problems I have in the Jenner - Dolezal world we live in is that it's only OK to call someone a fucking weirdo, loser AFTER they do something horrible. I'll give you a common denominator in ALL mass shootings that isn't guns, nor is it the oft' blamed "mental illness" and psychotropic drugs. It is, in a word: tolerance. Every time this happens, people come out of the woodwork saying that the person was strange, or a weirdo, or said oddly socially unacceptable, vile, or even violent things. But you just can't take a look at someone these days and let the truth out prior to mass murder: that dude is a fucking weirdo, and probably dangerous. For if you do, you are a "bully". Another word we've redefined so that it has become meaningless. This incident brings into sharp relief another problem- the devaluing of the language of words like "racist" or "hate". By labeling even the most mainstream Republicans, let alone conservatives as ALL racists; or saying someone is a racist for pointing out Obama's failings-- it diminishes the true meaning of the word, and helps all of society overlook true hate-filled racists like this fucking weirdo.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2015 15:58:04 GMT -5
....and if he reloaded his weapon five times, someone could have jumped him while he was reloading, but they didn't. If ONE person- let alone many- in that room jumped him, the outcome would have been different.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2015 16:13:58 GMT -5
Well Paul..{phew} finally again..one person bringing the conversation BACK to the premise of my original purpose of the thread I posted ...To sum up..My change of feeling toward the carrying of weapons..legally..concealed by vented civilians if they CHOSE to do so..should not be mandated..By vented I mean some kind of looking at past history..past doings..some scrutiny by authorities...Not a system where anyone just goes into a retail store..or purchase on the internet and purchase as they would say milk, eggs...condoms... The reason for doing so?..Well there are many..I am a realist..With the reported figure of over 300 million weapons in the hands of US folks..long ones, short ones..the strong feeling of entitlement of so many Americans ..second amendment..The reality of curtailing the amount of weapons in the hands of citizens in any way in my opinion has been lost a long time ago..as said..I am a realist. That's one reason..another , and as important..for some reason or other it SEEMS that there is a up tick in personal violence by some individuals aimed at innocents for what ever reason and to expect armed professionals to always be on site to stop ...especially in some of those venues that these actions have taken place..School..house of worship..Military base..restaurant..sporting event just to name a few..[only one where there was sufficient armed professionals present but since two home made bombs were used ..this professional force never had a clue as to what was going down..]..is not practicle or as found by putting armed professionals into schools after the Sandy Hook incident..for most districts just too financially expensive. If there were volunteer civilians armed present when these things started to happen..the shootings ...possible..no guarantee of but possible the fall out, casualties might be mitigated till the professionals arrived..even if known that there were many non professionals armed at these places..it might dissuade some for doing what they do..
The other side of the coin..the ability of arriving authorities to know who is the bad guy and who the good ones when many people are armed for one...the accuracy of using a hand gun accurately...{ again , I am a realist and a hand gun over 10 feet for most..even less in distance under pressure ...in a crowd, adrenaline pumping..forget it] { some one here just posted that as a present a license to carry given as a gift to his Mom..she is 75...geeze already..we are making this into a game for Chr*st sake..]...and as I found in life..even with much training and schooling...it's a problem for some people to reveal them selves when they return fire on others shooting at them..any kind of incoming..and that is by well trained young folks..today brought up by doing so second nature in the video games they play since they were toddlers..Yet with all that..with what I see as happening and the reality of...I am starting to change my mind on this topic..wondering if it wouldn't be better to make it easier for populace to be weaponized publicly. Thus the premise of the thread..
After reading what you have written here deziloooooo I'm not sure I understand why you think is a game to encourage an elderly parent to be trained to use a weapon (gun) if one is needed by them. This an age thing for you? Only the young are capable? Do you know them?
As a senior who lives with other seniors..{over 55 community..} who also associates with other seniors who have experienced violence , participated in..VFW as well as volunteer at Veteran Hospital..Young and old are there...and most of us have realized and come to grips with the fact that we are not the young studs { not referring to the sexual aspects but that too probably } that we were 40 or more years ago. Eyesight, strength, agility, reflects...we admit diminished and we were trained well and many of us had experience in doing and participating, leading others....yet today we mostly agree , not really up to confrontation..not that we wouldn't try..last resort.. To see that one is hoping to have a 75 year old mother put themselves in a active situation..and assuming she is probably in good health but still 75..assuming is not experienced beyond just possible some rudamentery fire arm experiences if that..yep..I have to ask ..why? Is she really in such situations though granted as the thread is mentioning these situations are popping up in the weirdest places but still...However, if who ever is the one is comfortable with arming his mother or was it grandmother...so be it..I still ask ..Why... To put it in perspective..I am experienced..I have partaken and done it..but knowing my current capabilities ... no I have no interest in acquiring a permit to carry...at least at this time...though down the road...we'll have to see...If I was younger and more youth capable..different story.. However...the premise of the thread...should for those who are capable, pass the venting...because of what I see happening today here , in the world...for those who want to ..should we make it easier and actually acceptable to carry, and when we see such folks ..{even when done discreetly...it is easy to spot actually..coats, jackets ride up...clothes don't fit properly..drag a bit..} don't get our knickers all in a uproar..just accept it...not the case for most of us today though for me , getting to accept it more...have gotten away with my thoughts of the past of.." You idiot..why? "..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 16:15:26 GMT -5
Are you okay with the murder of people you think are bad? Is that what you are suggesting should happen? Are you seriously asking me if I think a person who murdered 9 people in cold blood deserves to die? No, I am asking you if you want the other prisoners to murder the guy.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 20, 2015 16:18:25 GMT -5
Are you seriously asking me if I think a person who murdered 9 people in cold blood deserves to die? No, I am asking you if you want the other prisoners to murder the guy. And, from me, do you support no consequence to those who do murder the guy?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2015 16:24:45 GMT -5
Are you seriously asking me if I think a person who murdered 9 people in cold blood deserves to die? No, I am asking you if you want the other prisoners to murder the guy. I am wondering , now that the perp is in custody..if found sane..if convicted of..{ seems a no brainer so far so lets say he will be..with little dispute..}Is it that important whether he is executed in ten years or more for this deed or spends the rest of his life..which due to his age and nothing undue happens to him in custody...probably will spend it 23/1..23 hour out of 24 in solitary ..little or no contact with others..for the next say 40 /50 years..he is only 21....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 16:37:01 GMT -5
No, I am asking you if you want the other prisoners to murder the guy. I am wondering , now that the perp is in custody..if found sane..if convicted of..{ seems a no brainer so far so lets say he will be..with little dispute..}Is it that important whether he is executed in ten years or more for this deed or spends the rest of his life..which due to his age and nothing undue happens to him in custody...probably will spend it 23/1..23 hour out of 24 in solitary ..little or no contact with others..for the next say 40 /50 years..he is only 21.... I know I am a way outlier on this, but I think prisons should be a place where a person can improve his/her self. I am not suggesting cushy or country club, but I think prisons should be safe. They should have plenty of opportunity for education and religious,philosophy studies. They should have the opportunity to work and get paid a fair amount with some going to restitution.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 20, 2015 16:41:37 GMT -5
I am wondering , now that the perp is in custody..if found sane..if convicted of..{ seems a no brainer so far so lets say he will be..with little dispute..}Is it that important whether he is executed in ten years or more for this deed or spends the rest of his life..which due to his age and nothing undue happens to him in custody...probably will spend it 23/1..23 hour out of 24 in solitary ..little or no contact with others..for the next say 40 /50 years..he is only 21.... I know I am a way outlier on this, but I think prisons should be a place where a person can improve his/her self. I am not suggesting cushy or country club, but I think prisons should be safe. They should have plenty of opportunity for education and religious,philosophy studies. They should have the opportunity to work and get paid a fair amount with some going to restitution. I am with you except that the pay needs to go to restitution, room and board, savings for controlled use upon release, and only a small amount for personal use
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2015 16:53:32 GMT -5
I am wondering , now that the perp is in custody..if found sane..if convicted of..{ seems a no brainer so far so lets say he will be..with little dispute..}Is it that important whether he is executed in ten years or more for this deed or spends the rest of his life..which due to his age and nothing undue happens to him in custody...probably will spend it 23/1..23 hour out of 24 in solitary ..little or no contact with others..for the next say 40 /50 years..he is only 21.... I know I am a way outlier on this, but I think prisons should be a place where a person can improve his/her self. I am not suggesting cushy or country club, but I think prisons should be safe. They should have plenty of opportunity for education and religious,philosophy studies. They should have the opportunity to work and get paid a fair amount with some going to restitution. So...no actual punishment? Safe, with education and good-paying jobs?
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 20, 2015 16:55:21 GMT -5
I know I am a way outlier on this, but I think prisons should be a place where a person can improve his/her self. I am not suggesting cushy or country club, but I think prisons should be safe. They should have plenty of opportunity for education and religious,philosophy studies. They should have the opportunity to work and get paid a fair amount with some going to restitution. So...no actual punishment? Safe, with education and good-paying jobs? Loss of physical freedom is punishment IM(not so)HO.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 17:02:40 GMT -5
I think people worry about this type of thing more then they should. I think a better place to put your concern might be the 1000 plus killings in Chicago. This guy was an outlier. What he did was terrible but its over and done. Let him be judged and punished. More worry and concern should be over ongoing violence. I asked in another thread, what was the solution and no real answers other then gun control, which is a non-starter in today's world.
I do not mean to diminish the awfulness of what happened to the dead, their families, their church and community and everyone else who was affected.
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After reading what you have written here deziloooooo I'm not sure I understand why you think is a game to encourage an elderly parent to be trained to use a weapon (gun) if one is needed by them. This an age thing for you? Only the young are capable? Do you know them?
As a senior who lives with other seniors..{over 55 community..} who also associates with other seniors who have experienced violence , participated in..VFW as well as volunteer at Veteran Hospital..Young and old are there...and most of us have realized and come to grips with the fact that we are not the young studs { not referring to the sexual aspects but that too probably } that we were 40 or more years ago. Eyesight, strength, agility, reflects...we admit diminished and we were trained well and many of us had experience in doing and participating, leading others....yet today we mostly agree , not really up to confrontation..not that we wouldn't try..last resort.. To see that one is hoping to have a 75 year old mother put themselves in a active situation..and assuming she is probably in good health but still 75..assuming is not experienced beyond just possible some rudamentery fire arm experiences if that..yep..I have to ask ..why? Is she really in such situations though granted as the thread is mentioning these situations are popping up in the weirdest places but still...However, if who ever is the one is comfortable with arming his mother or was it grandmother...so be it..I still ask ..Why... To put it in perspective..I am experienced..I have partaken and done it..but knowing my current capabilities ... no I have no interest in acquiring a permit to carry...at least at this time...though down the road...we'll have to see...If I was younger and more youth capable..different story.. However...the premise of the thread...should for those who are capable, pass the venting...because of what I see happening today here , in the world...for those who want to ..should we make it easier and actually acceptable to carry, and when we see such folks ..{even when done discreetly...it is easy to spot actually..coats, jackets ride up...clothes don't fit properly..drag a bit..} don't get our knickers all in a uproar..just accept it...not the case for most of us today though for me , getting to accept it more...have gotten away with my thoughts of the past of.." You idiot..why? ".. Thanks for answering and I get what you are saying. Unfortunately many of the elderly today are living in neighborhoods that have taken some serious turns for the worse in recent years and they are often seen as easy victims. Although I wouldn't encourage my mother to carry a weapon in that situation, I would not have much concern over my father doing so. I would think anyone that would encourage a parent to do so would have a pretty good understanding of their personal situations and capabilities.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 20, 2015 17:05:25 GMT -5
I know that it works in places like the Netherlands, but there isn't as much economic disparity, due to social and health safety nets. I can see poor people in the US committing crimes just to get a safe place to sleep, three square meals a day, an education, spiritual needs met and a job with fair wages. You don't? You think the prisons are overcrowded now?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2015 17:16:44 GMT -5
As a senior who lives with other seniors..{over 55 community..} who also associates with other seniors who have experienced violence , participated in..VFW as well as volunteer at Veteran Hospital..Young and old are there...and most of us have realized and come to grips with the fact that we are not the young studs { not referring to the sexual aspects but that too probably } that we were 40 or more years ago. Eyesight, strength, agility, reflects...we admit diminished and we were trained well and many of us had experience in doing and participating, leading others....yet today we mostly agree , not really up to confrontation..not that we wouldn't try..last resort.. To see that one is hoping to have a 75 year old mother put themselves in a active situation..and assuming she is probably in good health but still 75..assuming is not experienced beyond just possible some rudamentery fire arm experiences if that..yep..I have to ask ..why? Is she really in such situations though granted as the thread is mentioning these situations are popping up in the weirdest places but still...However, if who ever is the one is comfortable with arming his mother or was it grandmother...so be it..I still ask ..Why... To put it in perspective..I am experienced..I have partaken and done it..but knowing my current capabilities ... no I have no interest in acquiring a permit to carry...at least at this time...though down the road...we'll have to see...If I was younger and more youth capable..different story.. However...the premise of the thread...should for those who are capable, pass the venting...because of what I see happening today here , in the world...for those who want to ..should we make it easier and actually acceptable to carry, and when we see such folks ..{even when done discreetly...it is easy to spot actually..coats, jackets ride up...clothes don't fit properly..drag a bit..} don't get our knickers all in a uproar..just accept it...not the case for most of us today though for me , getting to accept it more...have gotten away with my thoughts of the past of.." You idiot..why? ".. Thanks for answering and I get what you are saying. Unfortunately many of the elderly today are living in neighborhoods that have taken some serious turns for the worse in recent years and they are often seen as easy victims. Although I wouldn't encourage my mother to carry a weapon in that situation, I would not have much concern over my father doing so. I would think anyone that would encourage a parent to do so would have a pretty good understanding of their personal situations and capabilities.
Sweet..you brought out something I did not even give any thought too... "Unfortunately many of the elderly today are living in neighborhoods that have taken some serious turns for the worse in recent years and they are often seen as easy victims." I don't, neighborhood..not even close...and no not a walled in one with gates and on property security on property...no crime to speak of , though we have a watch program...no kids...after 10 nothing goes on for the most part..so didn't even think of what you posted...I apologize...While still not a big proponent of all of a sudden arming or training seniors ..especially those who have never in the past..{ Next door neighbor is a Survivor of..and is in her early 90's..has slowed down to much...next to her..another who is 92..very active..gave a short ride from market today..another one who I am thinking late 80's..doesn't drive..{recent late husband didn't..took buses where ever..} quite active but still..thinking weapon..? Never.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 18:10:40 GMT -5
On a somewhat related note... my 75+ year old mother just got her CC Permit THIS YEAR! (I gave her and her husband a pre-paid "card" the class for it as an Anniversary Present, late last year. They took the class this Spring) Why Richard...? Why what? Why did I give them that gift? Why did she get a permit? Why is she a "pistol packin' granny"? Why is it related? Why is she 75+? Why did she do it "THIS YEAR"? Why did I give the gift to both her and her husband? Why did they take the class this spring? Why did the place use a "card" instead of a paper "gift certificate"?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 18:15:22 GMT -5
Fixed that for you!
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 20, 2015 18:17:27 GMT -5
Fixed that for you! Fixed the fixed.
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