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Post by zibazinski on May 18, 2015 18:34:44 GMT -5
Why would I bother? You obviously don't believe both are hugely anti Semitic and I believe they both are. I don't need to prove anything to you. It's pretty well known. Even DH's rabbi discusses it. Carter was the first democrat and Jews vote dem, to shock a lot of them by being so. Jews identify with the underdog and think Dems are supporters of the underdog. Stupid. Just stupid.
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2015 18:56:38 GMT -5
Why would I bother? You obviously don't believe both are hugely anti Semitic and I believe they both are. I don't need to prove anything to you. It's pretty well known. Even DH's rabbi discusses it. Carter was the first democrat and Jews vote dem, to shock a lot of them by being so. Jews identify with the underdog and think Dems are supporters of the underdog. Stupid. Just stupid. Hopefully you'd bother to show why you believe as you do. Commonly believed does not make it true. So far all the comments I have ever seen on YMAM reduce down to Obama is not pro-Israel.
According to this link, the author thinks Carter was nicer to Palestine than Israel because he saw Palestine as the underdog. www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Why-Jimmy-Carter-is-not-an-anti-Semite To me, anti-Semitism is saying bad things about Jews such as 'all jews are money grubbing people' or something similar.
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Post by zibazinski on May 18, 2015 19:00:46 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2015 19:16:07 GMT -5
OK did some reading. Apparently Obama has never said anything in public that is anti-Semitic, however he has appointed people who are and deals with world leaders who are.
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Post by Value Buy on May 18, 2015 22:37:16 GMT -5
Can you post a few "jews suck" type of quotes from both please? So it has to be a "jews suck" quote to be and actual anti-semantic? |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2015 22:39:41 GMT -5
Can you post a few "jews suck" type of quotes from both please? So it has to be a "jews suck" quote to be and actual anti-semantic? technically, it doesn't even have to be ABOUT Jews to be anti-semitic. but i have long lost that argument, in the vernacular sense. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2015 22:42:37 GMT -5
Why would I bother? You obviously don't believe both are hugely anti Semitic and I believe they both are. I don't need to prove anything to you. It's pretty well known. Even DH's rabbi discusses it. Carter was the first democrat and Jews vote dem, to shock a lot of them by being so. Jews identify with the underdog and think Dems are supporters of the underdog. Stupid. Just stupid. Jews are not stupid. they have a whole list of reasons for voting Democrat, you named ONE, and it is a very weak one. Jews are big on education. they are big on the arts. they are big on freedom of speech. they are anti-discrimination. but the biggest SELL on the Democratic side is that they are very very very very very pro-labor and pro-union. until the GOP stops beating the shit out of labor and unions, they are never going to win the Jewish vote. EVER. edit: i have mentioned this before, but there has only been ONE time in the last century that Democrats have lost the Jewish vote in a presidential election in the last century. that was when Eugene Debs won it.  if Walker wins the nomination, you can count on nearly 100% of Jews voting Democrat. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 18, 2015 22:48:43 GMT -5
Jimmy Carter circa 1976 is looking better. He's way out of the closet as a real piece of human debris post-presidency. The two are about the same- Barry and Jimmy. Both hugely anti Semitic according to Jewish historian Medoff, the three most anti-semitic presidents in the last century were Nixon, FDR, and Truman. Carter and Obama don't even make the first cut. |
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Post by Opti on May 18, 2015 23:05:28 GMT -5
So it has to be a "jews suck" quote to be and actual anti-semantic? technically, it doesn't even have to be ABOUT Jews to be anti-semitic. but i have long lost that argument, in the vernacular sense. I guess you are talking about this?
Despite the use of the prefix anti-, the term "anti-Semitic" is not a direct opposite of "Semitic" which linguistically makes the term a misnomer. Within common, day to day usage, however, the terms "anti-Semitism" and "antisemitism" have accepted and specific use to describe prejudice against Jews alone and in general.[1][8] This is despite the fact that there are other speakers of Semitic languages (e.g. Arabs, Ethiopians, or Assyrians) and that not all Jews speak a Semitic language.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
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Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2015 1:08:46 GMT -5
No. Those comments were probably made in private. Which means you have no proof of...just your own feeling of and are trying to pass them off as fact...Tsk, tsk..you remind me of some one else here on the boards...always posting his own feelings off as fact and hoping no one calls him on it...{sigh} |
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Post by mmhmm on May 19, 2015 1:39:31 GMT -5
deziloooooo, let's stick to the topic under discussion rather than discussing other posters. Thanks. mmhmm, Administrator
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Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2015 13:05:05 GMT -5
deziloooooo, let's stick to the topic under discussion rather than discussing other posters. Thanks. mmhmm, Administrator Ok...thought i was somewhat ambiguouse there ..would it have been ok to use "he / her"in reference of some one...that really leaves it as a open reference....  { I know ..stop being a wise ass....} |
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Post by mmhmm on May 19, 2015 13:06:48 GMT -5
deziloooooo, let's stick to the topic under discussion rather than discussing other posters. Thanks. mmhmm, Administrator Ok...thought i was somewhat ambiguouse there ..would it have been ok to use "he / her"in reference of some one...that really leaves it as a open reference.... { I know ..stop being a wise ass....}*chuckle* It would be much better to simply stop your fingers in mid-wiggle as soon as it occurs to you to type something unkind about another poster. |
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Post by mmhmm on May 19, 2015 13:18:18 GMT -5
*chuckle* It would be much better to simply stop your fingers in mid-wiggle as soon as it occurs to you to type something unkind about another poster. I shouldn't admit this, but.... I can't count the times that I've had a post all written out and ready to send, and then thought at the last moment- naaaah, not a good idea.  I'm the same, deminmaine. I think most of us, probably, have done that.  |
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Post by weltschmerz on May 23, 2015 18:04:37 GMT -5
*chuckle* It would be much better to simply stop your fingers in mid-wiggle as soon as it occurs to you to type something unkind about another poster. I shouldn't admit this, but.... I can't count the times that I've had a post all written out and ready to send, and then thought at the last moment- naaaah, not a good idea. Heh. I can't tell you how many times I've had a post all written out and ready to send, then realized it's all in French. |
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Post by mmhmm on May 23, 2015 21:55:03 GMT -5
I shouldn't admit this, but.... I can't count the times that I've had a post all written out and ready to send, and then thought at the last moment- naaaah, not a good idea. Heh. I can't tell you how many times I've had a post all written out and ready to send, then realized it's all in French. LOL! I can imagine that! |
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Post by tallguy on May 23, 2015 22:26:14 GMT -5
I shouldn't admit this, but.... I can't count the times that I've had a post all written out and ready to send, and then thought at the last moment- naaaah, not a good idea. I'm the same, deminmaine. I think most of us, probably, have done that.
I used to do that too, back in the MSN days. But I'm not a moderator any more, so I no longer have to worry about that whole "higher standard" thing. Now I'm free to say whatever I want. You both should appreciate it, getting a chance to actually work a little bit.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 23, 2015 22:48:54 GMT -5
I'm the same, deminmaine. I think most of us, probably, have done that.
I used to do that too, back in the MSN days. But I'm not a moderator any more, so I no longer have to worry about that whole "higher standard" thing. Now I'm free to say whatever I want. You both should appreciate it, getting a chance to actually work a little bit.
i was a moderator on a board once. but then i had a poster that i really wanted to call a pigheaded bigoted bag of hammers, and i didn't think that was very professional. so i quit. THEN i called him a pigheaded bigoted bag of hammers. |
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Post by tallguy on May 23, 2015 22:59:55 GMT -5
I used to do that too, back in the MSN days. But I'm not a moderator any more, so I no longer have to worry about that whole "higher standard" thing. Now I'm free to say whatever I want. You both should appreciate it, getting a chance to actually work a little bit.
i was a moderator on a board once. but then i had a poster that i really wanted to call a pigheaded bigoted bag of hammers, and i didn't think that was very professional. so i quit. THEN i called him a pigheaded bigoted bag of hammers. Which is basically what I am doing now. |
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