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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 7:14:12 GMT -5
doesn't matter if it seems reasonable or not. My friend, who lives in FL, son attending a Florida state university, divorce granted in NJ, had a NJ judge order her ex to cover half of whatever tuition/fees/room and board wasn't covered by the florida scholarship and the stafford This does not seem unreasonable. FL is the student's home, so they are attending at in-state tuition rate. Why is it bad that each parent covers 1/2 in-state university costs after tuition and scholarships? so you think it's ok for a parent to be forced to pay for their child's college education? would you be ok if parents who are still married to each other are court ordered to pay for their child's college education?
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 14, 2014 8:15:04 GMT -5
Clearly, the grandparents aren't helping to build any bridges. If I had to put money on this I would bet that there are 5 assholes in this story.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 8:40:17 GMT -5
doesn't matter if it seems reasonable or not. My friend, who lives in FL, son attending a Florida state university, divorce granted in NJ, had a NJ judge order her ex to cover half of whatever tuition/fees/room and board wasn't covered by the florida scholarship and the stafford This does not seem unreasonable. FL is the student's home, so they are attending at in-state tuition rate. Why is it bad that each parent covers 1/2 in-state university costs after tuition and scholarships? Because even state tuition is a lot of money and maybe they have other things they need to cover? Like raising other kids or funding their own retirement. Plus, while I am busting my ass trying to save for my kid's college, I reserve the right to pull every last nickel of that for whatever reason. I know my kids better than any judge and if don't think it's wise to throw money at college or if they treat me like crap, forget it.
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Post by alabamagal on Nov 14, 2014 10:03:30 GMT -5
As a parent, I would be pissed if the court ORDERED me to pay tuition for my college age kids. Especially if the kid cut me off and had not spoken to me for 2 years! I too reserve the right to pull every penny of support for my over 18 kid if I desire.
Fortunately I have not had to do that!
My friend has their son get a half-tuition scholarship to the local school. He did poorly first semester and they said they were not paying anything else, he is now working trying to earn money to restart school. They are both college professors, and I am sure the could "afford" to pay his tuition, but they said no. That is their right. I would hate for the court to tell them that they had to. But they are married so I guess it won't come up.
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Post by giramomma on Nov 14, 2014 12:37:55 GMT -5
As a parent, I would be pissed if the court ORDERED me to pay tuition for my college age kids. Especially if the kid cut me off and had not spoken to me for 2 years! I too reserve the right to pull every penny of support for my over 18 kid if I desire. But, see, we don't know why the kid and parents aren't talking. Not all parents are good, quality parents that really attend to their kids needs. Not all kids are good kids. There's nothing in this article to indicate anything about the behaviors of the parents and the child. It's all just a crap article written vaguely so that we can apply our own biases/feelings and then make snap decisions about the girl and her parents.
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Post by souldoubt on Nov 14, 2014 12:58:14 GMT -5
Why they aren't talking is really a moot point. It's ridiculous that parents can be forced to pay for college for an adult. That said I realize the qualification for aid is the reason why but in the end it makes college seem like an obligation and not a choice. If a couple who makes a decent living (i.e. kid won't qualify for federal aid) has a kid who is a screw up that they don't want to waste money on as far as college goes how far off are we from courts taking rulings like this and saying they're required to pay?
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 14, 2014 15:29:49 GMT -5
Well if the courts are not willing to step up and force married (to each other) parents to pay for college, it will be only a matter of time before some "entrepreneurial" spirited teen will do his/her best to break up its parents marriage in order to get a paid for college degree. Really, what are these judges thinking!!!
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Post by Shooby on Nov 14, 2014 18:03:13 GMT -5
We keep defining up "adult". Pretty soon it will be 30.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 21:49:22 GMT -5
This does not seem unreasonable. FL is the student's home, so they are attending at in-state tuition rate. Why is it bad that each parent covers 1/2 in-state university costs after tuition and scholarships? so you think it's ok for a parent to be forced to pay for their child's college education? would you be ok if parents who are still married to each other are court ordered to pay for their child's college education? Yes. It is wrong that different rules are applied between married or divorced. FAFSA is set up that parent pays amount their income supports. They should pay when married too. There is more problem of anyone paying maybe if the parents are divorced.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 21:51:35 GMT -5
As a parent, I would be pissed if the court ORDERED me to pay tuition for my college age kids. Especially if the kid cut me off and had not spoken to me for 2 years! I too reserve the right to pull every penny of support for my over 18 kid if I desire. Fortunately I have not had to do that! My friend has their son get a half-tuition scholarship to the local school. He did poorly first semester and they said they were not paying anything else, he is now working trying to earn money to restart school. They are both college professors, and I am sure the could "afford" to pay his tuition, but they said no. That is their right. I would hate for the court to tell them that they had to. But they are married so I guess it won't come up. One semester is too soon to remove support for my opinion. But now they have proof for court that he is not serious student if he sues them!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 21:59:15 GMT -5
If estranged/divorced parents are already being court ordered to pay for college doesn't that already set the precedent that still married couples could be sued by the children to force them to pay as well? Precedent is precedent. I don't think a judge can stipulate that this ruling only applies to absentee parents and have later courts be bound to follow that. Does anyone know if a kid with parents that are still together has tried suing them for tuition money or to get the court to mandate they fill out the FAFSA? There are a decent number of parents that refuse to give their kids the info they need to fill out the FAFSA which completely screws them on aid. First girl in New Jersey had parents still married. 9 months ago or more the court said they have to pay for private high school tuition. She did not follow house rules and parents told her get rid of loser drug boyfriend. They all get mad and she moves out so they will not pay tuition. Judge says they have to pay. This one is not college, but maybe strange because she could go to public school and not have any tuition.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Nov 14, 2014 22:36:22 GMT -5
If estranged/divorced parents are already being court ordered to pay for college doesn't that already set the precedent that still married couples could be sued by the children to force them to pay as well? Precedent is precedent. I don't think a judge can stipulate that this ruling only applies to absentee parents and have later courts be bound to follow that. Does anyone know if a kid with parents that are still together has tried suing them for tuition money or to get the court to mandate they fill out the FAFSA? There are a decent number of parents that refuse to give their kids the info they need to fill out the FAFSA which completely screws them on aid. First girl in New Jersey had parents still married. 9 months ago or more the court said they have to pay for private high school tuition. She did not follow house rules and parents told her get rid of loser drug boyfriend. They all get mad and she moves out so they will not pay tuition. Judge says they have to pay. This one is not college, but maybe strange because she could go to public school and not have any tuition. I don't believe the judge sided with the girl. www.cnn.com/2014/03/04/justice/student-sues-parents-new-jersey/
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 17, 2014 10:32:25 GMT -5
There is no way this is going to stop with college tuition payments.
If we keep redefining what child becomes and adult and how much parents need to contribute, it will start spreading to parents being forced to pay for other after-HS things - apartments, food/clothing, car insurance.
Why not?
ACA already increased the age of children staying on parents' policy. Now courts are making parents pay for college.
It has nothing to do with costs of college. It has to do with our societal trend of parents supporting children longer and longer and govt saying that they should.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Nov 17, 2014 10:33:23 GMT -5
We keep defining up "adult". Pretty soon it will be 30. You are not truly an adult until your parents pass away.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 17, 2014 13:36:27 GMT -5
There is no way this is going to stop with college tuition payments. If we keep redefining what child becomes and adult and how much parents need to contribute, it will start spreading to parents being forced to pay for other after-HS things - apartments, food/clothing, car insurance. Why not? ACA already increased the age of children staying on parents' policy. Now courts are making parents pay for college. It has nothing to do with costs of college. It has to do with our societal trend of parents supporting children longer and longer and govt saying that they should. Just to add that this girl is from NJ and NJ doesn't have a set age of 18, or any other age for that matter, that automatically makes a person an adult. So while it may to some seem like she is an adult because she is 18 the law doesn't see it that way. The test is if she is "on her own" so if she was self supporting or enlisted in the military or something she would be considered to have automatically emancipated. But a full time college student living with family is almost always considered not emancipated in my experience. This is a tough one mostly because the people who are making the decisions aren't the ones paying the bill. I have known quite a few kids who picked colleges because they knew then their parent would have to pay for it and not because it was what they wanted or felt was the best overall fit for them, which to me has to include money unless the family is truly weathy.
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