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Post by whoisjohngalt on Aug 14, 2014 8:21:20 GMT -5
I'm so jaded that I think these people go apply for these jobs knowing they won't be hired so they can then sue. I think they are counting on big settlements so they don't have to work. Told you I was jaded. I don't know if I would go that far......or may be I would.....but what I do believe is that majority of the people truly think that the world has to accommodate their "special circumstances" or what they perceive to be "special circumstances". And it's not just employment issue, it's everywhere I give a lot of credit to people who want to have their own business and hire employees bc it seems that it's no easy task.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 8:29:31 GMT -5
There is a case at the local university about being provided a room with proper ventilation and climate control (including air conditioning which is not available in most of the university) for a professor to "administer" their prescribed marijuana. The fact that the university has a no smoking on university property policy was considered irrelevant. The pressure is on the university to build a special room for this purpose. They are negotiating now.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Aug 14, 2014 8:38:14 GMT -5
The person with the allergies controls the environment of others. The good of the one over the good of the many.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Aug 14, 2014 10:39:23 GMT -5
That excerpt just confirms what I posted earlier. An employer *may* have to make certain accommodations - not *Must* have to.
That is also not yet written in stone for ALL workplaces. It's right there in the portion you posted above the link.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 14, 2014 11:03:33 GMT -5
There is a case at the local university about being provided a room with proper ventilation and climate control (including air conditioning which is not available in most of the university) for a professor to "administer" their prescribed marijuana. The fact that the university has a no smoking on university property policy was considered irrelevant. The pressure is on the university to build a special room for this purpose. They are negotiating now. Ventilation is horrible in just about every university I have worked in, including the newer ones. Trying to retrofit is an utter nightmare (I've been involved in 2 major lab renovations, glad I didn't have to figure it out!). From what I read, the job is in a dental clinic and the dentists use a polishing agent that contains peanut shells. Those form an aerosol, and she would likely be bombarded with allergens if she walked into the clinic. Yes, the admins go into the clinics regularly. If someone nearby was eating peanuts and she had to leave the area, what would a very large room with upwards of 25 students/hygienists aerosoling cleaning agents do to her? Dental clinics are usually single, very large rooms with a lot of bays with chairs in them. Barriers between the bays are only about 5' high.
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Post by greeniis10 on Aug 14, 2014 11:25:24 GMT -5
There is a case at the local university about being provided a room with proper ventilation and climate control (including air conditioning which is not available in most of the university) for a professor to "administer" their prescribed marijuana. The fact that the university has a no smoking on university property policy was considered irrelevant. The pressure is on the university to build a special room for this purpose. They are negotiating now. Ventilation is horrible in just about every university I have worked in, including the newer ones. Trying to retrofit is an utter nightmare (I've been involved in 2 major lab renovations, glad I didn't have to figure it out!). From what I read, the job is in a dental clinic and the dentists use a polishing agent that contains peanut shells. Those form an aerosol, and she would likely be bombarded with allergens if she walked into the clinic. Yes, the admins go into the clinics regularly.If someone nearby was eating peanuts and she had to leave the area, what would a very large room with upwards of 25 students/hygienists aerosoling cleaning agents do to her? Dental clinics are usually single, very large rooms with a lot of bays with chairs in them. Barriers between the bays are only about 5' high. Ah, well, there we go. There is the missing piece that makes this make more sense to me. I wasn't aware of that fact. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 11:57:19 GMT -5
The person with the allergies controls the environment of others. The good of the one over the good of the many. That is proving to be true. Especially peanut allergies. Peanuts and peanut products are no longer allowed in elementary schools.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 12:18:17 GMT -5
I'm jaded because we had a parent at our sister school expect the entire school to go peanut free so her darling could eat in the cafeteria with all the other children. Plenty of accomodations were made but that wasnt good enough for her. She sued and lost. Our grandson is highly allergic to peanuts and this is one of the reasons he is home schooled.
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Post by greeniis10 on Aug 14, 2014 12:29:12 GMT -5
As much as this topic gets beat to death and we all reach our limits as far as being "inconvenienced" for others (i.e. no peanuts at school) knowledge really is important! When DS2 was very young he had a few of his friends over. One little boy stated he was allergic to peanuts, so DS2 gave him some peanut M&Ms "just to see what would happen". Thank god the boy was not severely allergic and was okay, but it reminded me that I needed to be much more expansive in my teachings with the kids. None of us ever had any allergies and the topic was never even brought up. Learned my lesson quickly and made me have many more conversations about wider topics with the kids. (still didn't cover everything, of course, but I sure tried harder)
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Post by Angel! on Aug 14, 2014 14:03:12 GMT -5
The person with the allergies controls the environment of others. The good of the one over the good of the many. That is proving to be true. Especially peanut allergies. Peanuts and peanut products are no longer allowed in elementary schools. My kid's school still allows it. They just have a peanut free table which I think is an ideal compromise. As someone with food allergies, I do not think they should be considered a disability, nor do I think ridiculous lengths should be taken to protect such kids. Reasonable measures, especially for younger kids. I remember last halloween someone saying (don't remember if it was here or facebook) that no one should give out candy with peanuts, which is stupid. Kids with allergies need to be taught to look out for themselves because no one else but their parents will be able to do it as well. They can't be led to believe that anything they are handed in the world will be safe to eat, because it just isn't true. Sorry, life isn't fair.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 14, 2014 14:05:17 GMT -5
Interesting that there are peanut free schools. I know some parents have tried and were unsuccessful. It'd be interesting to know how those parents won.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 14, 2014 14:16:13 GMT -5
Kids with allergies at DD's school get to sit at the end of the lunch table. I think it's so the monitors can reach them easily if necessary. But this is K4 and K5.
And I admit - it so rocked last year having a kid in the classroom with a fish and pineapple allergies. And those were discovered during the school year. But I pitied the parents in one of the other rooms - I think they had multiple different allergies. And daily snack rotates though the kids so I don't know how that worked out.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Aug 14, 2014 17:25:39 GMT -5
Interesting that there are peanut free schools. I know some parents have tried and were unsuccessful. It'd be interesting to know how those parents won. We have peanut and nut free schools in my city/county. Not sure if it is designated schools or all of them and to lazy to check it out. It wasn't due to lawsuits or anything like that, just a concern.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 14, 2014 17:43:07 GMT -5
I wonder how those parents protect and since we have a grandma on here with a grand hold with an allergy, how do you prevent it all the time? I get homeschooling but how do you survive in public?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Aug 15, 2014 7:07:02 GMT -5
I wonder how those parents protect and since we have a grandma on here with a grand hold with an allergy, how do you prevent it all the time? I get homeschooling but how do you survive in public? I wonder the same thing. Guess just educate the child at earliest age they can understand. But to be perfectly safe they would have to live in a bubble.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Aug 15, 2014 15:58:34 GMT -5
Interesting that there are peanut free schools. I know some parents have tried and were unsuccessful. It'd be interesting to know how those parents won. We have peanut and nut free schools in my city/county. Not sure if it is designated schools or all of them and to lazy to check it out. It wasn't due to lawsuits or anything like that, just a concern. At the elementary school you occasionally see a "tree nut/peanut free room" sign on a classroom door, but the whole school doesn't cater to the allergy, just the classroom.
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