tskeeter
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Post by tskeeter on Nov 21, 2013 19:25:08 GMT -5
Agree, no gaurantees. But, the fewer handouts available, the fewer hands that will be out. Or the bigger and bloodier the food riot will be... Oh, come on. Hysteria, hysteria. Examples of reducing handouts repeatedly show that when handouts are reduced, the people who truly have the wherewithall to provide for themselves make other arrangements. Sometimes they even decide to provide for themselves.
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Rocky Mtn Saver
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Post by Rocky Mtn Saver on Nov 21, 2013 19:47:36 GMT -5
Or the bigger and bloodier the food riot will be... Oh, come on. Hysteria, hysteria. Examples of reducing handouts repeatedly show that when handouts are reduced, the people who truly have the wherewithall to provide for themselves make other arrangements. Sometimes they even decide to provide for themselves. Oh, you laugh, but Black Friday is coming up. We'll see if anyone ends up in the hospital over the last half-price XBox. If we're willing to trample old ladies over a good deal on a flat-screen, imagine what can happen if the dwindling resource is something important like food, water, or shelter. People be crazy sometimes! But, yes, I really do get your point about some people figuring out another way. And I agree to a point. The real trick, as has been evident with all these well-intentioned social programs, is to actually and practically only serve the people who are the most in need of the service. Putting that into practice isn't as easy as we'd like to think it is.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 19:50:01 GMT -5
Or the bigger and bloodier the food riot will be... Oh, come on. Hysteria, hysteria. Examples of reducing handouts repeatedly show that when handouts are reduced, the people who truly have the wherewithall to provide for themselves make other arrangements. Sometimes they even decide to provide for themselves. References please, thanks.
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formerroomate99
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Post by formerroomate99 on Nov 21, 2013 21:56:06 GMT -5
My kids did without plenty growing up. They didn't deserve anything just because they are on this planet. It's MY job to provide for them, no one else's. that's the problem, people just expect that someone else, like the taxpayers, is going to pick up their slack. Because the taxpayers do, this perpetuates the problem. Ah, right, I forgot to punish the child for the sins of the father. True to an extent. But if you make poverty and dependence too comfortable, neither the parents nor the kids are likely to come to the conclusion that they need to do something radically different.
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formerroomate99
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Post by formerroomate99 on Nov 21, 2013 22:04:33 GMT -5
Bingo.
And guess what, it's always been that way.
Running mental institutions and group homes has always been more expensive than letting crazy people live under bridges. Running orphanages has always been more expensive than paying idiots to procreate.
But there was a time when charities and the state had a very different attitudes towards caring for those who can't care for themselves. Sometimes, things that seem kind in the short term are cruel in the long term.
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