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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:32:12 GMT -5
cedaredge Message #1563 - 07/31/10 09:05 AM
July 30, 2010
A Sin and a Shame
By BOB HERBERT The treatment of workers by American corporations has been worse far more treacherous than most of the population realizes. There was no need for so many men and women to be forced out of their jobs in the downturn known as the great recession.
Many of those workers were cashiered for no reason other than outright greed by corporate managers. And that cruel, irresponsible, shortsighted policy has resulted in widespread human suffering and is doing great harm to the economy.
“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Andrew Sum, an economics professor and director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston. “Not only did they throw all these people off the payrolls, they also cut back on the hours of the people who stayed on the job.”
As Professor Sum studied the data coming in from the recession, he realized that the carnage that occurred in the workplace was out of proportion to the economic hit that corporations were taking. While no one questions the severity of the downturn the worst of the entire post-World War II period the economic data show that workers to a great extent were shamefully exploited.
The recession officially started in December 2007. From the fourth quarter of 2007 to the fourth quarter of 2009, real aggregate output in the U.S., as measured by the gross domestic product, fell by about 2.5 percent. But employers cut their payrolls by 6 percent.
In many cases, bosses told panicked workers who were still on the job that they had to take pay cuts or cuts in hours, or both. And raises were out of the question. The staggering job losses and stagnant wages are central reasons why any real recovery has been so difficult.
“They threw out far more workers and hours than they lost output,” said Professor Sum. “Here’s what happened: At the end of the fourth quarter in 2008, you see corporate profits begin to really take off, and they grow by the time you get to the first quarter of 2010 by $572 billion. And over that same time period, wage and salary payments go down by $122 billion.”
That kind of disconnect, said Mr. Sum, had never been seen before in all the decades since World War II.
In short, the corporations are making out like bandits. Now they’re sitting on mountains of cash and they still are not interested in hiring to any significant degree, or strengthening workers’ paychecks.
Productivity tells the story. Increases in the productivity of American workers are supposed to go hand in hand with improvements in their standard of living. That’s how capitalism is supposed to work. That’s how the economic pie expands, and we’re all supposed to have a fair share of that expansion.
Corporations have now said the hell with that. Economists believe the nation may have emerged, technically, from the recession early in the summer of 2009. As Professor Sum writes in a new study for the labor market center, this period of economic recovery “has seen the most lopsided gains in corporate profits relative to real wages and salaries in our history.”
Worker productivity has increased dramatically, but the workers themselves have seen no gains from their increased production. It has all gone to corporate profits. This is unprecedented in the postwar years, and it is wrong.
Having taken everything for themselves, the corporations are so awash in cash they don’t know what to do with it all. Citing a recent article from Bloomberg BusinessWeek, Professor Sum noted that in July cash at the nation’s nonfinancial corporations stood at $1.84 trillion, a 27 percent increase over early 2007. Moody’s has pointed out that as a percent of total company assets, cash has reached a level not seen in the past half-century.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:33:21 GMT -5
cedaredge Message #1564 - 07/31/10 09:07 AMContinued:Executives are delighted with this ill-gotten bonanza. Charles D. McLane Jr. is the chief financial officer of Alcoa, which recently experienced a turnaround in profits and a 22 percent increase in revenue. As The Times reported this week, Mr. McLane assured investors that his company was in no hurry to bring back 37,000 workers who were let go since 2008. The plan is to minimize rehires wherever possible, he said, adding, “We’re not only holding head-count levels, but are also driving restructuring this quarter that will result in further reductions.” There can be no robust recovery as long as corporations are intent on keeping idle workers sidelined and squeezing the pay of those on the job. It doesn’t have to be this way. Germany and Japan, because of a combination of government and corporate policies, suffered far less worker dislocation in the recession than the U.S. Until we begin to value our workers, and understand the critical importance of employment to a thriving economy, we will continue to see our standards of living decline.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:36:08 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1565 - 07/31/10 01:30 PM
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:37:59 GMT -5
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:39:09 GMT -5
Goober Steve Message #1567 - 07/31/10 05:14 PMI posted a long diatribe over on market talk with jubak under "Goober here come the jobs!" based on this and the Obama appearance on The View this last week. According to Obama, he has created 600K jobs in last 9 months or so. But he FORGOT to tell the audience that he spent 500 billion to create those jobs, so the cost per job comes in around 1 million per job. This is exactly why there is no credibility or confidence in this administration or their asinine policies. Now that the truth is catching up with them, they do the obvious and simply tell more lies like he did on "the view" by not giving all the information and trying to convince the sheep on TV. This is getting completely laughable, but it isn't actually funny at all. Our entire future is at stake and maniacs and incompetence are running the show. Go read my post over there I think it hits the nail on the head! www.philstockworld.com/2010/07/31/improve-your-market-timing-the-bullish-meeting-lines-candlestick/ by the way I had another great week trading shorted CME and FSLR for the biggest gains with a few longs mixed in. ;D pretty intense week with swings!
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Post by stayput on Dec 29, 2010 21:39:13 GMT -5
Um, I hate to come here and burst bubbles-- well, no I really don't. Anyway, it's gonna be a long time before any thread surpasses the glory and greatness of my "National Security IS the Economy" thread. I think that thread had 8,000 + posts the last time I saw it. It was ridiculous.Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=128&page=54#ixzz19YiZxj00To this supercilious statement I have but this response. In a long series of very fierce battles, now on this front, now on that, fighting on three fronts at once, battles fought by two or three divisions against an equal or sometimes larger number of the enemy, and fought very fiercely on old ground so many of us knew so well, our losses in men exceed 30,000 in killed, wounded and missing. I take this occasion for expressing the sympathy of the House with those who have suffered bereavement or are still anxious. The President of the Board of Trade (Sir Andrew Duncan) is not here today. His son has been killed, and many here have felt private affliction of the sharpest form, but I would say about the missing -- we have had a large number of wounded come home safely to this country -- there may be very many reported missing who will come back home some day. In the confusion of departure it is inevitable that many should be cut off. Against this loss of over 30,000 men we may set the far heavier loss certainly inflicted on the enemy, but our losses in material are enormous. We have perhaps lost one-third of the men we lost in the opening days of the battle on March 21, 1918, but we have lost nearly as many guns -- nearly 1,000 -- and all our transport and all the armored vehicles that were with the army of the north. These losses will impose further delay on the expansion of our military strength. That expansion has not been proceeding as fast as we had hoped. The best of all we had to give has been given to the B. E. F., and although they had not the number of tanks and some articles of equipment which were desirable they were a very well and finely equipped army. They had the first fruits of all our industry had to give. That has gone and now here is further delay. How long it will be, how long it will last depends upon the exertions which we make on this island. An effort, the like of which has never been seen in our records, is now being made. Work is proceeding night and day. Sundays and week days. Capital and labor have cast aside their interests, rights and customs and put everything into the common stock. Already the flow of munitions has leaped forward. There is no reason why we should not in a few months overtake the sudden and serious loss that has come upon us without retarding the development of our general program. Nevertheless, our thankfulness at the escape of our army with so many men, and the thankfulness of their loved ones, who passed through an agonizing week, must not blind us to the fact that what happened in France and Belgium is a colossal military disaster. The French Army has been weakened, the Belgian Army has been lost and a large part of those fortified lines upon which so much faith was reposed has gone, and many valuable mining districts and factories have passed into the enemy's possession. The whole of the Channel ports are in his hands, with all the strategic consequences that follow from that, and we must expect another blow to be struck almost immediately at us or at France. We were told that Hitler has plans for invading the British Isles. This has often been thought of before. When Napoleon lay at Boulogne for a year with his flat-bottomed boats and his Grand Army, some one told him there were bitter weeds in England. There certainly were and a good many more of them have since been returned. The whole question of defense against invasion is powerfully affected by the fact that we have for the time being in this island incomparably more military forces than we had in the last war. But his will not continue. We shall not be content with a defensive war. We have our duty to our Allies. We have to reconstitute and build up the B. E. F. once again under its gallant Commander in Chief, Lord Gort. All this is en train. But now I feel we must put our defense in this island into such a high state of organization that the fewest possible numbers will be required to give effectual security and that the largest possible potential offensive effort may be released. On this we are now engaged. It would be very convenient to enter upon this subject in secret sessions. The government would not necessarily be able to reveal any great military secrets, but we should like to have our discussions free and without the restraint imposed by the fact that they would be read the next day by the enemy. The government would benefit by the views expressed by the House. I understand that some request is to be made on this subject, which will be readily acceded to by the government. We have found it necessary to take measures of increasing stringency, not only against enemy aliens and suspicious characters of other nationalities but also against British subjects who may become a danger or a nuisance should the war be transported to the United Kingdom. I know there are a great many people affected by the orders which we have made who are people affected by the orders which we have made who are passionate enemies of Nazi Germany. I am very sorry from them, but we cannot, under the present circumstances, draw all the distinctions we should like to do. If parachute landings were attempted and fierce nights followed, those unfortunate people would be far better out of the way for their own sake as well as ours. There is, however, another class for which I feel not the slightest sympathy. Parliament has given us powers to put down fifth column activities with the strongest hand, and we shall use those powers subject to the supervision and correcting of the House without hesitation until we are satisfied and more than satisfied that this malignancy in our midst has been effectually stamped out. Turning once again to the question of invasion, there has, I will observe, never been a period in all those long centuries of which we boast when an absolute guarantee against invasion, still less against serous raids, could have been given to our people. In the days of Napoleon the same wind which might have carried his transports across the Channel might have driven away a blockading fleet. There is always the chance, and it is that chance which has excited and befooled the imaginations of many continental tyrants. We are assured that novel methods will be adopted, and when we see the originality, malice and ingenuity of aggression which our enemy displays we may certainly prepare ourselves for every kind of novel stratagem and every kind of brutal and treacherous manoeuvre. I think no idea is so outlandish that it should not be considered and viewed with a watchful, but at the same time steady, eye. We must never forget the solid assurances of sea power and those which belong to air power if they can be locally exercised. I have myself full confidence that if all do their duty and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our island home, ride out the storms of ware outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary, for years, if necessary, alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. that is the resolve of His Majesty's Government, every man of them. that is the will of Parliament and the nation. The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and their need, will defend to the death their native soils, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength, even though a large tract of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule. We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old. . June 4, 1940 Winston Churchill Speech before the Commons (How apropos)
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:40:37 GMT -5
AKA sanityjones Message #1568 - 07/31/10 05:43 PM
I also have had a pretty good week (more like month) reducing my exposure in the markets, transferring my filthy dollars into land, farm implements, and physical commodities. Cash on the barrel-head is king right now, the deals are phenomenal and if one buys with quality as the primary criteria then future resale should allow for a pretty good gain, although I am buying mostly for a hedge against social/political/economic upheaval (can't eat stocks) LOL. This is what I've been up to should anyone care, and the reason I have not been around much.........got a lot to do over the rest of this summer. Good luck to all......... (most anyhow) I'll be around.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:41:18 GMT -5
Goober Steve Message #1569 - 07/31/10 07:29 PM
Good for you Sanity. But, land and likely all other prices will be even cheaper, thus the reasoning to accumulate cash now. We still have time before the bottom completely falls out and USD is worthless. When treasuries are no longer in demand during crisis situations, that is when you want to get out of USD and the illusions have kept that from happening, yet. I don't disagree what you are doing is a good idea and the only real security that exists in the long haul. I do think all RE will get considerably cheaper over the next 2 to 5 years thus my cautionary attitude. But one does need to live some where? Good luck in your endeavors.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:41:52 GMT -5
Goober Steve Message #1570 - 07/31/10 07:33 PM
Sanity - What are you going to grow/farm?
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:43:20 GMT -5
AKA sanityjones Message #1572 - 08/01/10 09:45 AM
The usual garden variety things I guess. I live in a cold climate so greenhouse gardening and root cellaring are in order for me. For now I plan to start an orchard, asparagus beds, grapes, many berry varieties,............all the things which take a few years to establish but for the most part do not require a ton of coddling once mature. Procuring a secondary water/power source for this project is in order as well. BTW the owner of the land I purchased took off one hundred thousand if I would pull the trigger this year........not a bad deal as it is an adjoining parcel that I wanted anyhow. I agree that land may depreciate even further, however I need as much time as possible to establish my long term sustainability goals.............a necessary and prudent trade-off IMO. I've worried long enough about the markets, political shenanigans, moral digression of society, and a multitude of other ulcer aggravating issues which I am not in control of. It seems to me that if a person has no debt and can feed themselves off of their own land or through barter, part time job, etc then there is no real need to chase down FRN's.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:45:15 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1573 - 08/01/10 04:38 PMSmall business optimism needs to improve Click to enlargeSource: FactSet, Federal Reserve as of July 27, 2010. There may be some optimism in the small business community if the dems are no longer in control of the congress. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have ignored small businesses. So, in two weeks Pelosi and her husband will be hosting a two day retreat with leading business execs in Napa Valley to try amd mend fences and get them to contribute big bucks to the dems campaigns this fall. She has a tough road to hoe wit small businesses because her bud in congress have added 500,000 government jobs while 2.5 million private sector jobs were lost and many will not be coming back for the next two or three years. And Pelosi can no longer blame Bush or the repubs for these job losses which have hit the small business community along with higher taxes and additional costs for health care, and financial reform. www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/01/BUT21ELOS8.DTL&type=business
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:46:38 GMT -5
Value-Buy Message #1574 - 08/02/10 09:24 PM
And yet, the European markets had a great day this morning, and we followed suit this afternoon. Now, instead of a European economic collapse, the thinking is they are in better shape than the U.S.A.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:53:50 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1575 - 08/04/10 09:42 AMMarket Watch News Story U.S. employment up 42,000 in July: ADP 9:43 am ET 08/04/2010 - MarketWatch Databased News WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. private-sector employment rose 42,000 in July for the sixth consecutive monthly gain, but the pace of hiring remains weak, according to the employment report from payrolls processing firm ADP released Wednesday. Over six months, increases have averaged a "modest" 37,000, "with no evidence of acceleration," according Joel Prakken, chairman of Macroeconomic Advisers, which produces the report from anonymous payroll data supplied by ADP. The report "shows continued weakness in the jobs market, which is in part caused by the uncertainty in the economy and general business climate," said Gary Butler, ADP's chief executive, in a statement. "American businesses are on the cusp of recovery, but more effective incentives are needed to encourage business investment resulting in the creation of more jobs." Economists polled by MarketWatch had been expecting the ADP report to show a 23,000 increase in July. Stock futures turned higher after the report. See related story. ADP revised upward its estimate for June nonfarm private employment to a 19,000-job gain, from a prior estimate of a 13,000 gain. The ADP report doesn't include government workers. On Friday, the government is scheduled to report nonfarm payrolls for July, and economists polled by MarketWatch are looking for a decline of 60,000. That payrolls estimate includes an expected increase of 96,000 jobs in the private sector, alongside layoffs of about 145,000 temporary U.S. Census workers. The ADP private-payrolls report has been weaker than official government data based on surveys from business establishments and households. Jobs in the service-providing category rose 63,000, according to ADP. Meanwhile, employment in the goods-producing category fell by 21,000 in July. Manufacturing employment fell 6,000 -- the first decline in six months. Construction employment fell 17,000 -- the smallest decline since November 2007. Automatic Data Processing Inc. provides payroll and human-resources services to about one in every six U.S. workers, serving more than 500 companies. Elsewhere Wednesday, consultancy Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that employers had announced plans to cut almost 42,000 workers in July, a 6% gain from June. In July 2009, there were more than 97,000 job cuts announced. "While July marks the third consecutive monthly gain in announced job cuts, downsizing activity remains at its lowest level since before the 2001 recession," according to the Challenger report. There have been almost 340,000 job cuts announced so far this year, 64% less than the 944,000 planned layoffs during the first seven months of 2009. (2008-7412) Market Edge® Commentary Close Download recent reports or search the archive of Market Commentary. Print - Daily Market Update
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:54:35 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1576 - 08/05/10 09:22 PM
And still the Progressive/Communist spin continues full steam ahead. If any of you have avoided Glen Beck, based solely on the constant attacks from the left, I implore you to make up your own mind after watching him for one solid month. If after a month, if you do not completely change your mind about what you thought that you knew, then so be it. Only the hard core communist (currently in power) or their hard core communist followers, could walk away from the facts and the truths being shown and proven every day on the Glen Beck show, and still attack him. I guarantee that after watching Beck five days a week, for one month straight, you will not want to miss any of his programs, and you will be awakened to the tyranny that we call our government.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:57:48 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1577 - 08/06/10 06:07 AMGlenn Beck. Either you love him or you hate him. But one thing everybody can easily agree on, Glenn Beck is an idiot. Read more to learn how this Fox News political pundit proves his idiocy time and time again. glennbeckisanidiot.com/ No one has done more to shift the Overton Window of acceptable discourse than Beck himself. His brand of trivializing the horrors of Nazi Germany used to draw swift rebuke. For example, in 2004, when two ads comparing George Bush to Hitler were submitted for a contest held by MoveOn.org, then-RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie called them "the worst and most vile form of political hate speech" and MoveOn.org was widely criticized despite the fact that the ads were created by private citizens, not the organization. Glenn Beck now gets to compare progressives and progressive policies to the Holocaust almost nightly, on the highest-rated cable news channel in the country, and Fox News does nothing to stop him. In fact, by standing behind him "1000%," they are only encouraging him to go further. A year ago, Glenn Beck faced a public outcry and more than 100 advertisers left his show when he called President Obama a "racist." Since then numerous conservative media figures have echoed that outrageous charge with limited criticism. Fox stood behind Beck calling the president a racist, now they’re standing behind him when suggesting the long-held beliefs of the Jewish people led to Nazism. How far does he have to go for Fox to rein him in? Source: huffingtonpost.com The blame game: Conservative media try to pin problems on unionsBeck says unions have "raped" police and fire fighters. On the August 4 edition of his radio program, Glenn Beck said of unions: "Look what they've done to the police and firemen. They've raped these guys. Along with politicians. Along with politicians -- raped them. The bravest among us." Beck went on to ask, "What, do you think the politicians are not in bed with the unions?" mediamatters.org/research/201008050057
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 21:59:47 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1578 - 08/07/10 02:14 AM
I read that totally left wing, idiotic website, and see just what type of person would actually fall for that propaganda. I found it so funny just how desperate the left is to put up a whole list of complete distortions, outright fabrications and other idiotic lies about Glen Beck. This sight, and others like it prove just how terrified of Beck (the "Facts" that he continues to present and "Prove"), they actually are.
The reason that FOX is the highest rated news channel is because of Glen Beck, Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly. The truth will ALWAYS gather the most people. The American public have been starving and exhausted by the constant lies coming out of the Liberal media, that when they are finally given both the Proven facts and the truth, you can't tear them away. The left continues to constantly lie about everything, concerning FOX and especially Beck, and these guys keep bringing up the irrefutable facts which constantly crush these idiotic prevaricators.
More and more people are tuning into Beck and FOX, and are also joining the Tea Party in every state across this entire nation. Progressives/Communists!! Come November be afraid. Be very afraid. ;D
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:04:45 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1579 - 08/07/10 07:14 AMGlenn Beck promotes book rife with anti-Semitism and racism June 07, 2010 5:33 pm ET Glenn Beck promoted The Red Network: A "Who's Who" and Handbook of Radicalism for Patriots, stating that the book is "from people who were doing what we're doing now. We now are documenting who all of these people are." However, the book's author, Elizabeth Dilling, was a virulent anti-Semite, and The Red Network itself contains numerous passages that espouse anti-Semitism and racism. Beck praises The Red NetworkOn the June 4 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, Beck said: BECK: This is a book, The Red Network. This came in from 1936. People -- McCarthy was absolutely right. Now he may not -- he may have used bad tactics or whatever, but he was absolutely right. This is a book -- and I'm a getting a ton of these -- from people who were doing what we're doing now. We now are documenting who all of these people are. Well, there were Americans in the first 50 years of this nation that took this seriously, and they documented it. And this is from 1936, and in it, it talks about -- it's the who's who and handbook for radicalism for patriots. This is "Who are the communists in America?" The overwhelming number of communists -- labor unions. The other thing that they talked about was, in this book that I was reading last night, they said, you know, there's this teachers union thing, but you really want to know who the real radical communists are? The NEA. That's 1936. And they're talking about this new organization that is really nasty, that you really have to look out for. The NEA. But everything this book has talked about they have mainstreamed. The Red Network is rife with racism, anti-Semitism, and religious bigotry "Un-Christianized" "colored people" are "savages" who owe success to Christian whites. As part of a chapter alleging communist and socialist infiltration of religious institutions, Dilling wrote: The colored people are a sincerely religious race. As long as they stayed in Africa un-Christianized, they remained, as did pagan white men, savages. Their pagan brothers in Africa today are savages, while in a comparatively few years, under the opportunities of the American government and the inspiration of Christianity, the American Negroes have acquired professions, property, banks, homes, and produced a rising class of refined, home loving people. This is far more remarkable than that many Negroes are still backward. The Reds play upon the Negroes' love of their own people and represent them as persecuted in order to inflame them against the very white people who have in reality given the colored race far greater opportunities than their fellow negroes would give them in Africa today. [ Pages 35-36] Dilling reprised some of this language later in the book: It is interesting to note in Communist literature that criminal violence is always promoted and excused under a cloak of supposed martyrdom. Negroes are urged to fight their white "oppressors," who actually have freed them and given them better jobs and opportunities than exist in Africa. [ Page 55] mediamatters.org/research/201006070053
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:12:03 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1580 - 08/07/10 07:20 AMSo who's still advertising on Beck? August 6 edition August 06, 2010 6:12 pm ET - by Media Matters staff At least 100 advertisers have reportedly dropped their ads from Glenn Beck's Fox News program since he called President Obama a "racist" who has a "deep-seated hatred for white people." Here are his August 6 sponsors, in the order they appeared: - Goldline International Inc.
- American Advisors Group
- Partnership for a Drug-Free America
- Merit Financial
- Wholesale Direct Metals
- Audibel
- The Jewelry Exchange
- MyLife.com
- Matrix Direct
- JLW Law Group LLP
- Rosland Capital
- Mozy Pro
- DebtOK
- Easy Water
- Goldline International Inc.
- League of American Voters
- Merit Financial
- Servpro
- Chattem Inc. (Aspercreme)
- News Corp. (The Wall Street Journal)
- Liberty Medical
- American Advisors Group
History Of Hate Glenn Beck uses his media platform to disseminate vitriolic hateful rhetoric and stoke racial anxieties. The Southern Poverty Law Center admonished Glenn Beck for fueling violent hate groups and the Anti-Defamation League aptly describes Beck as “fearmonger-in-chief.” When advertisers sponsor Glenn Beck, this is what they are paying for and associating their brand with: Glenn Beck said President Obama is “a racist”On July 28, 2009, discussing President Obama, Glenn Beck said:“This president has exposed himself, I think, as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people, or white culture.“Adding… “I’m saying he has a problem. He has a, this guy is, I believe, a racist.“ mediamatters.org/blog/201008060048
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:12:43 GMT -5
Joel Y Message #1581 - 08/07/10 07:30 AMAnd Obama doesn't? ? You know when he is blaming things on his opposition and trash talking anyone who does not support his ideology but looking to see if his lips are moving.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:13:39 GMT -5
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:14:38 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1583 - 08/07/10 11:30 AM
What a list of outrageous, pathetic lies. Glen Beck has been showing, with both scholars and documented FACTS, the countless contributions of black America that has been removed from our history books. He has also had Dr. Martin Luther King's niece on his show multiple times, as well as other black "Constitutional Loving" Americans. The Progressives/Communists are so desperate that they are saying anything hoping that something will stick with either the uninformed, or ignorant who are just too lazy to actually see for themselves.
EVERY TIME that the left comes up with another lie, he has repeatedly proven them to be the pathetic liars that they are. I challenge anyone to watch Beck for one solid month and see for yourselves who is speaking facts/truth.
FYI, there are others who also advertise while Beck is on. I even saw Progressive Insurance during one of the commercial breaks, and had to laugh.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:15:52 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1584 - 08/07/10 12:16 PM
RDT, you spend countless hours, every day, both on this board and researching clearly tainted sights, trying to prove to everyone else that you are not wrong in any of your ascertains. If you look at only those groups, individuals, and sights that you agree with, that's not doing any real research. That is simply trying to substantiate your positions by quoting other like minded individuals, regardless of just how absurd some of your positions may be.
Basically, you spend all of your time trying to prove that you are not wrong in everything that you say and believe, that you don't even have the courage to prove to yourself if your are actually right about anything. Out of all of the hours that you spend on here and the search engines, If you have the courage that I think you must have, take just one hour of that time and actually watch Glen Beck each day.
As an ex-Marine, you know just how vital it is to be able to have first hand knowledge of your enemy, and their position. From the safety of your armchair, spend one hour each night watching Glen Beck yourself, for one month. If you actually have the courage of your convictions, nothing that Glen Beck says for the next month could possibly change that.
What if you have been wrong this whole time? Do you have the real courage to actually watch Glen Beck, and possibly find yourself saying "Ooops. I've been wrong this whole time."? The only reason that you and a few others might be afraid to do so, would be that you can't admit, even to yourself when you are wrong. You erroneously believe that if you are completely wrong about something, and it is proven, then that somehow equates to you being wrong about everything else that you believe in. That is a flawed mentality. In fact, it is those people who are incapable of admitting when they are wrong, who cannot be trusted in anything that they say or believe.
Watch Glen Beck for one solid month. It might just mean the country that you and I wore that uniform for.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:18:47 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1585 - 08/07/10 01:42 PMGlenn Beck, the right wing fringe commentator has not only embarrassed himself by calling President Obama a racist–he has embarrassed the Church and Mormons everywhere. In late July the firebrand exclaimed: This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy — over and over and over again — who has a deep seated hatred for white people or white culture, I don’t know what it is . . . I’m not saying he doesn’t like white people. I’m saying he has a problem, this guy is, I believe, a racist. Of course the claim is nonsense, of the same genre as much of Rush Limbaugh’s hate speech, and that of Shawn Hanity. But, what makes Glenn Beck’s comments more harmful is that he claims he is an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Church does not need this type of publicity or association. Mormons everywhere ought to denouce the comments and Beck for making them. Why–because these comments perpetuate erroneous and harmful stereotypes of the Church and its membership. The post Proposition 8 media spin has already harmed the Church’s image painting Mormons who stood for religious principle as propagating hate and intolerance and being on the fringe. Glenn Beck’s comments only fuel that fire. The more reasoned secular world is distancing itself from Beck’s ridiculous claims. Already advertisers are pulling their ads from his show–and rightly so. Mormons should do likewise. I, for one, as an active participant in the community of Saints denounce Glenn Beck, his comments, and the harm it does to the Church. With friends like Glenn Beck–the Church needs no further enemies. messengerandadvocate.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/glenn-beck-an-embarrasment-to-mormons-perpetuates-harmful-untrue-stereotypes/
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:19:17 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1586 - 08/07/10 02:03 PM
So basically you lack the guts to even watch. You truly do bark like a big dog, but pee like a puppy.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:20:37 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1587 - 08/07/10 02:17 PM
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:21:18 GMT -5
Stay Put Message #1588 - 08/07/10 03:25 PM
I'm sorry. I thought that I was talking to a Marine. I really didn't think that I would hurt your sensitive feelings. So, please let me re-word my thoughts, while taking your frail constitution into consideration. I'll ask R. Lee Ermy to throw you a box of tissues.
You lack any courage of your so called convictions. Is that better?
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:25:24 GMT -5
ReformedDayTrade Message #1589 - 08/07/10 04:10 PM
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:26:08 GMT -5
deziloooooo Message #1590 - 08/07/10 04:44 PM
What has " Marine " got to do with anything here.
Marines i knew were sensitive people, their feeling could also be hurt just like any one else. Many shed a tear as the with drew their bayonets from those that offended them, very sensitive folks many were.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 29, 2010 22:26:46 GMT -5
AKA sanityjones Message #1591 - 08/07/10 07:18 PM
For those who are interested the following is the topic at hand. You can also find it at the top of this page.
When the Economic Collapse hits this fall will you be prepared?
Thank you for your attention. sanityjones, not a mod, just extraordinarily bored.
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