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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2011 11:01:50 GMT -5
Floridayankee Thank you for illustrating my point
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 16, 2011 11:05:04 GMT -5
Floridayankee Thank you for illustrating my point I didn't realize saying I didn't really care means I'm making excuses for his actions. Thanks for letting me know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 11:40:45 GMT -5
I was not on yesterday, and can't believe this thread is still going. Man-- when the left sees a viable opponent they dig in, don't you guys?? Funny, funny. Hey, Yank-- where are you guys getting all these good guys?? Your state is on fire right now. So good to see.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2011 12:04:55 GMT -5
when the left sees a viable opponent they dig in,"Viable" Thanks for the chuckle, krickett
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 16, 2011 12:10:43 GMT -5
Nobody is railing against Pat Buchannan anymore. Clearly, Sarah Palin is a viable- even probable- candidate. Otherwise, why spend the time and energy on her that the left does?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 12:24:24 GMT -5
Nobody is railing against Pat Buchannan anymore. Clearly, Sarah Palin is a viable- even probable- candidate. Otherwise, why spend the time and energy on her that the left does? I think that the major concern is that the Republicans will rally around one candidate like they did in 2000 with George Bush. Keeping alive the idea that "Clearly, Sarah Palin is a viable- even probable- candidate" will work to keep that from happening.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 12:27:41 GMT -5
Right now I am still Romney, just like last time, but am waiting for exciting new faces to emerge. It's WAY too early to decide. Have you libs already picked Obama, or are you guys open to other people? Like Hil-- who should have won in the first place.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2011 12:44:03 GMT -5
Nobody is railing against Pat Buchannan anymore. Clearly, Sarah Palin is a viable- even probable- candidate. Otherwise, why spend the time and energy on her that the left does? Because she's so entertaining?
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 12:44:20 GMT -5
Given the number of Democrats who have sacrificed their political careers on the altar of Barack Obama worship, there's no way anyone else has a chance at the nomination...
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2011 12:46:25 GMT -5
Right now I am still Romney, just like last time, but am waiting for exciting new faces to emerge. It's WAY too early to decide. Have you libs already picked Obama, or are you guys open to other people? Like Hil-- who should have won in the first place. I think it's pretty usual for the incumbent to run for a second term.... ....... Hil in 2016 perhaps??
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 12:47:32 GMT -5
Right now I am still Romney, just like last time, but am waiting for exciting new faces to emerge. It's WAY too early to decide. Have you libs already picked Obama, or are you guys open to other people? Like Hil-- who should have won in the first place. Reality is that it is almost impossible for a party to not re-nominate a sitting president unless they withdraw. A drawn-out primary battle would make it too unlikely for the ulitimate nominee to win the general election. Unless there is a repeat of the 1968 Democratic early primary season, I don't see any nominee other than Obama.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 14:20:44 GMT -5
This guy reminds me of George Bush Sr.'s promises and Obama's charisma/crafty wordism(yes I made that up). My vote will stick with Ron Paul , at least he has the years of experience with a constant voting record known to stick to his conservative\libertarian values. Not that I can say that RP will be able to do everything he want to get done either. I actually don't think that is possible for a president since there is to many powerful people with more money. I still need to research some more on this fellow, but electing another inexperienced person into office makes me think of Einstein's definitions of insanity.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 14:29:55 GMT -5
freedom-- may I call you that?? Yes, Paul is interesting, and probably not dangerous at all to anyone uncertain about what he wants to do, because, as you say, he can't possibly get it done-- not now. It would be interesting to see a RP presidency. But, as of now, I do not hear he is running, and Allen West has not said he is running, either. What fun, huh?? Knocking around ideas???
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 14:31:38 GMT -5
This guy reminds me of George Bush Sr.'s promises and Obama's charisma/crafty wordism(yes I made that up). My vote will stick with Ron Paul , at least he has the years of experience with a constant voting record known to stick to his conservative\libertarian values. Not that I can say that RP will be able to do everything he want to get done either. I actually don't think that is possible for a president since there is to many powerful people with more money. I still need to research some more on this fellow, but electing another inexperienced person into office makes me think of Einstein's definitions of insanity. The title of the thread refers to him as a rising star and that may well prove to be true. I certainly agree with you that his star should not rise too quickly. I personally don't think it should rise too high either but that is me.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 14:50:42 GMT -5
Why not? Are you suggesting West should be held back somehow? That's kind of presumptuous, don't you think? Isn't that the American dream writ large? That a man (or woman) can come from obscurity and humble roots and rise to the utmost heights of power? If a coke sniffing "community organizer" can become a senator and then president in a few short years (with backing from shady foreign interests and a complicit media), shouldn't everyone have the chance to be a success if they can do it?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 14:51:50 GMT -5
Why not? Are you suggesting West should be held back somehow? That's kind of presumptuous, don't you think? Isn't that the American dream writ large? That a man (or woman) can come from obscurity and humble roots and rise to the utmost heights of power? If a coke sniffing "community organizer" can become a senator and then president in a few short years (with backing from shady foreign interests and a complicit media), shouldn't everyone have the chance to be a success if they can do it? Of course it is presumptuous. It is my opinion. I had the same opinion about Obama rising too quickly.
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 16, 2011 14:59:42 GMT -5
...shouldn't everyone have the chance to be a success if they can do it? Everyone should....except conservatives. You should know that Ed. BTW, libs...please take note how the right doesn't break out the race card for not agreeing with rep West's politics.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 15:02:37 GMT -5
...shouldn't everyone have the chance to be a success if they can do it? Everyone should....except conservatives. You should know that Ed. BTW, libs...please take note how the right doesn't break out the race card for not agreeing with rep West's politics. Let's also note that the right does break out the race card about not breaking out the race card.
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 16, 2011 15:19:56 GMT -5
Everyone should....except conservatives. You should know that Ed. BTW, libs...please take note how the right doesn't break out the race card for not agreeing with rep West's politics. Let's also note that the right does break out the race card about not breaking out the race card. If you say so bills.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 15:25:06 GMT -5
Good point, yank. I missed that one. (Because I am conservative and do not see racists every time I turn around.)
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 15:53:32 GMT -5
freedom-- may I call you that?? Yes, Paul is interesting, and probably not dangerous at all to anyone uncertain about what he wants to do, because, as you say, he can't possibly get it done-- not now. It would be interesting to see a RP presidency. But, as of now, I do not hear he is running, and Allen West has not said he is running, either. What fun, huh?? Knocking around ideas??? I said I don't think he can get it all done(Freedom is fine by the way ). I believe is economic fundamentals is what is needed right now for our country to be prosperous. When I campaigned for him last year people were saying that RP couldn't possibly win, but neither did McCain and RP has better principles. RP did however break the first time donating record online(6 million) and most of those donations were done by grassroot supporters not huge companies like GS, BOA or pharmaceutical companies like Obama/McCain did. Most of the people that I debated/talked to RP about just said the bs talking points that the media spit out. Really I am disgusted by democrats and republicans both, the majority all see red or blue(black and white). For this reason is why RP had to run as a Republican. RP is far more experienced and educated in my opinion than any of the other candidates last year. He himself was the only one to be supported by Regan for office. The reason he didn't make it in last year was because people were afraid of the economic truth he was talking about, which seems to be the big deal now to bad for hindsight. I guess another reason was because the media didn't want to cover him until our grassroot support made him so big it was obvious. I think the general public is too far gone to know how to elect somebody by credentials and not popularity. Just Saying.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 16, 2011 15:54:21 GMT -5
Everyone should....except conservatives. You should know that Ed. BTW, libs...please take note how the right doesn't break out the race card for not agreeing with rep West's politics. Let's also note that the right does break out the race card about not breaking out the race card. The democrats pull the race card just as much the republicans.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 15:57:16 GMT -5
Let's also note that the right does break out the race card about not breaking out the race card. The democrats pull the race card just as much the republicans. All political parties do things to their advantage.
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Post by floridayankee on Feb 16, 2011 16:10:08 GMT -5
The democrats pull the race card just as much the republicans. That is why I refuse to belong to any party.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 16, 2011 16:34:18 GMT -5
Of course....he's a conservative. We're all wackos to the far left. <yawn> I'll care about it later. ... Actually, at the time of the incident I was referring to, he was a United States Army Lt. Colonel who didn't control his emotions. I thought we had discussed this to the end...there was no intent to kill the individual...he fired his personal weapon away to scare the suspect to admit setting up/planning/opartof a group who was involved in setting up ambushes by the bombs. Thing is , he was a officer, a Lt. Col , infact , Field grade .., officers don't do this kind of hands on, especially with that rank, not in the manuel, reality, if done, by the grunt, non com...their job ...fact of life, reality. There is a confusing point..a apology, a admission of possible a mistake identity, was that just a proforma one, not really a mistake but needed here , so ordered , the statement or was it a mistake as far as the civilian involved . I read some where that because the civilian talked a situation was avoided, so don't know what is the truth here. Possible down the road if ever in a position of..another Kerry/Swift Boat scenario but this time from the other side???
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Post by safeharbor37 on Feb 16, 2011 16:54:24 GMT -5
What part of "non-judicial" do you not understand?
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Feb 16, 2011 17:00:05 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2011 17:19:59 GMT -5
What part of "non-judicial" do you not understand? I fully understand the military justice system. He "plea bargained" down to a "misdemeanor" and took retirement instead of facing a court martial. Smart man.
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Post by ed1066 on Feb 16, 2011 19:57:26 GMT -5
Why, you're nothing more than a [glow=red,2,300]Demtroll[/glow], just trolling, just posting idiocy...
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Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 16, 2011 21:51:42 GMT -5
It will be satisfying to witness the looks on their faces when mob rules and dialing 911 will get you nothing but a few tones. So self righteous, so vulnerable. Enjoy it while you can kitty cat.
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