deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 17:34:41 GMT -5
The Speaker just made nice with the President.. I think, on a second reasding , mmmmm, still ,what say some are not happy with him.. --------------------------------------------------------------- news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110213/ap_on_re_us/us_boehner_obama------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Boehner says facts show Obama a Christian, citizen . – Sun Feb 13, 2:11 pm ET WASHINGTON – House Speaker John Boehner says Americans have a right to think what they want to think, even when they're wrong about President Barack Obama's citizenship and his religion. Some people believe that Obama, a native of Hawaii, was actually born outside the U.S. or in some other way is not a natural-born citizen eligible to be president. There is also a persistent belief among some that Obama, a Christian, is actually a Muslim. When the host of NBC's "Meet the Press" asked Boehner whether he, as speaker of the House, had a responsibility to "stand up to that kind of ignorance," Boehner told David Gregory: "It's not my job to tell the American people what to think. Our job in Washington is to listen to the American people." Boehner continued: "Having said that, the state of Hawaii has said that he was born there. That's good enough for me. The president says he's a Christian. I accept him at his word." He later called those "the facts" of Obama's background. Gregory asked, "But that kind of ignorance, about whether he's a Muslim, doesn't concern you?" "The American people have the right to think what they want to think," Boehner replied. "I can't — it's not my job to tell them." Boehner denied that he is willing to let those misperceptions remain because they weaken and delegitimize Obama" --------------------------------------------------------------- " Boehner denied that he is willing to let those misperceptions remain because they weaken and delegitimize Obama" Yet if some votor as he enters a booth some where in the great USA im 2012 still has some thoughts about it and it influences his vote...weeellll...hee, hee, all's fair in love and politics Mama allways said , and Mama , she was never wrong, especially on this one, if it's a benefit. Thank you Mama.
|
|
burnsattornincan
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 23:05:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,398
|
Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 13, 2011 17:43:49 GMT -5
A professional response but the question still remains. Why have the records been sealed? Why did members of his direct family say on record he was born in Africa? Not enough answers.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,388
|
Post by chiver78 on Feb 13, 2011 17:49:29 GMT -5
I saw this interview this morning too, dezi. what great leaders we have if they will not stand up and speak against ignorance. mr burns, I have asked you this before - if a certificate of live birth is acceptable to a state within the United States as proof of citizenship, what more do you expect to be produced to satisfy whatever remaining questions there may be? why should the President release records that have been legally sealed in order to answer ridiculous questions from people who have clearly shown that they do not like him for who he is, and will just find something else to demand from him?
|
|
vonnie6200
Senior Member
Adopt a Shelter Pet
Joined: Jan 8, 2011 14:07:17 GMT -5
Posts: 2,199
|
Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 13, 2011 17:54:03 GMT -5
why should the President release records that have been legally sealed in order to answer ridiculous questions from people who have clearly shown that they do not like him for who he is, and will just find something else to demand from him?
The question might be - who caused them to be legally sealed and why?
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,388
|
Post by chiver78 on Feb 13, 2011 17:55:27 GMT -5
um, the rules that were already in place by the state of Hawaii long before the question was ever raised?
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 17:56:01 GMT -5
A professional response but the question still remains. Why have the records been sealed? Why did members of his direct family say on record he was born in Africa? Not enough answers. The records have not been sealed. Two years ago, Obama displayed his birth certificate. It didn't satisfy the fringe element then, so there's no reason to think it would now.
|
|
vonnie6200
Senior Member
Adopt a Shelter Pet
Joined: Jan 8, 2011 14:07:17 GMT -5
Posts: 2,199
|
Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 13, 2011 17:57:40 GMT -5
A professional response but the question still remains. Why have the records been sealed? Why did members of his direct family say on record he was born in Africa? Not enough answers. The records have not been sealed. Two years ago, Obama displayed his birth certificate. It didn't satisfy the fringe element then, so there's no reason to think it would now. No it was a Certificate of Live Birth - different
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 18:03:53 GMT -5
The records have not been sealed. Two years ago, Obama displayed his birth certificate. It didn't satisfy the fringe element then, so there's no reason to think it would now. No it was a Certificate of Live Birth - different A Certificate of Live Birth issued by the State of Hawaii isn't sufficient proof of citizenship?
|
|
vonnie6200
Senior Member
Adopt a Shelter Pet
Joined: Jan 8, 2011 14:07:17 GMT -5
Posts: 2,199
|
Post by vonnie6200 on Feb 13, 2011 18:08:19 GMT -5
No it was a Certificate of Live Birth - different A Certificate of Live Birth issued by the State of Hawaii isn't sufficient proof of citizenship? Apparently it does not verify that a person was born in Hawaii
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 29, 2024 7:18:43 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 18:13:13 GMT -5
Show us ALL the papers-- from birth-- the REAL one-- to school enrollments in Indonesia, to records showing all his name changes and why, his college records, his college finance records, his several passports, several SS cards-- then explain all this to us--- as well as have Mama Obama say on the record that she lied when she said she and a cousin attended his birth in KENYA---- and we will shut up.
John Boehner is a wise man to understand that it is not his place or his RIGHT to tell people what to think.
|
|
burnsattornincan
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 23:05:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,398
|
Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 13, 2011 18:16:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry Ms. gardeninggrandma, you might have misunderstood. I'm talking about the academic records and other periods of time which he was unaccounted for.
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 18:21:20 GMT -5
And then we have the "Obama sucks because ..." crowd {Idget I am for putting this thread up, Dummy,dum,, stupe,dumb,dumb, dumb }
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 18:21:32 GMT -5
Show us ALL the papers-- from birth-- the REAL one-- to school enrollments in Indonesia, to records showing all his name changes and why, his college records, his college finance records, his several passports, several SS cards-- then explain all this to us--- as well as have Mama Obama say on the record that she lied when she said she and a cousin attended his birth in KENYA---- and we will shut up. . from birth-- the REAL oneIt's been produced. You weren't happy to school enrollments in IndonesiaRelevance of childhood school records? all his name changesSource please? (You can't produce records for name changes that didn't happen). School records? Relevance? Bush didn't show his. " Mama Obama say on the record that she lied when she said she and a cousin attended his birth in KENYA" Source please? and we will shut up. No, you won't.........
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 18:22:26 GMT -5
And then we have the "Obama sucks because ..." crowd {Idget I am for putting this thread up, Dummy,dum,, stupe,dumb,dumb, dumb } I wondered about that......
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Mar 29, 2024 7:18:43 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 18:31:44 GMT -5
Nope, grandma. I've posted links until my fingers bleed, and no one believes them. Just type in the words you are after-- the links are there-- lots of them. I'm not going to waste the next 2 hours looking for them AGAIN. He has used different names, and had passports and SS cards in different names, listing different citizenships, WAS registered in school as a child under a different name, and as a Muslim, there are no records of adoption, name changes back and forth, although he has used both names. There is a VIDEO on Mama Obama describing the birth, from WAY before he was elected. It's all out there for anyone that wants to see, unless it has all been removed from the internet. Frankly, this subject bores me these days, and I am more interested in getting him out in 2 years than I am in knowing if he should be there.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,388
|
Post by chiver78 on Feb 13, 2011 18:31:55 GMT -5
Show us ALL the papers-- from birth-- the REAL one-- to school enrollments in Indonesia, to records showing all his name changes and why, his college records, his college finance records, his several passports, several SS cards-- then explain all this to us--- as well as have Mama Obama say on the record that she lied when she said she and a cousin attended his birth in KENYA---- and we will shut up. . from birth-- the REAL oneIt's been produced. You can't produce records for name changes that didn't happen. School records? Bush didn't show his. Why the double standard? What does that have to do with his citizenship?" Mama Obama say on the record that she lied when she said she and a cousin attended his birth in KENYA" Source please? and we will shut up. No you won't. ....... thank you, gg. and they will never shut up.
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 18:33:47 GMT -5
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 18:35:54 GMT -5
So WHERE do you get all the cool emoticons?
|
|
burnsattornincan
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 23:05:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,398
|
Post by burnsattornincan on Feb 13, 2011 18:37:55 GMT -5
Source please?
Sure, I'll just google that right now and expect to see all the results the government has not expunged.
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 19:37:20 GMT -5
So WHERE do you get all the cool emoticons? seriously?...some one actually asking me a question relating to this site and I know the answer, moon you proud of me. look to your right of the message board, one you type in , there is a box..there it is...have fun..also at the top when you go to modify a post, quote some one, another way to get to them.
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 19:41:14 GMT -5
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 19:48:02 GMT -5
Any time, glad to be of service
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,388
|
Post by chiver78 on Feb 13, 2011 20:03:14 GMT -5
Source please?Sure, I'll just google that right now and expect to see all the results the government has not expunged. you're in Canada....your government has its own demons. you should be able to find anything that exists whether the US wants you to or not.
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 20:22:49 GMT -5
Source please?Sure, I'll just google that right now and expect to see all the results the government has not expunged. you're in Canada....your government has its own demons. you should be able to find anything that exists whether the US wants you to or not. Who is in Canada? I'm confused.
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 20:29:31 GMT -5
you're in Canada....your government has its own demons. you should be able to find anything that exists whether the US wants you to or not. Who is in Canada? I'm confused. Mr Burns the attorney..is a citizen of our friends to the North..he has some interesting comments from time to time as to how we are in deep doo doo here in the southern 48 and how bad we seem to be doing things and interesting to him , ideas to fix things...mmm , not sure if we get the solutions to our many problems from him , lots of complaints however....just sit back, he'll be by shortly.
|
|
Gardening Grandma
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:39:46 GMT -5
Posts: 17,962
|
Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 13, 2011 20:32:57 GMT -5
Who is in Canada? I'm confused. Mr Burns the attorney..is a citizen of our friends to the North..he has some interesting comments from time to time as to how we are in deep doo doo here in the southern 48 and how bad we seem to be doing things and interesting to him , ideas to fix things...mmm , not sure if we get the solutions to our many problems from him , lots of complaints however....just sit back, he'll be by shortly. Oh, thanks Desi. I thought that maybe Chiver was referring to me!! (DH is 1/2 Canadian and my grandkids all have dual citizenship - US and Canada)
|
|
henryclay
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 5, 2011 19:03:37 GMT -5
Posts: 3,685
|
Post by henryclay on Feb 13, 2011 20:39:18 GMT -5
Is having been born in Hawaii sufficient? Aren't there any other circumstances surrounding his birth that are important? For instance, could the child, , , born in the United States, , , , of an alien, (whether it was a legal or an illegal alien), ever become president without changing any of the current requirements for that office?
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,388
|
Post by chiver78 on Feb 13, 2011 20:39:22 GMT -5
Mr Burns the attorney..is a citizen of our friends to the North..he has some interesting comments from time to time as to how we are in deep doo doo here in the southern 48 and how bad we seem to be doing things and interesting to him , ideas to fix things...mmm , not sure if we get the solutions to our many problems from him , lots of complaints however....just sit back, he'll be by shortly. Oh, thanks Desi. I thought that maybe Chiver was referring to me!! (DH is 1/2 Canadian and my grandkids all have dual citizenship - US and Canada) no worries, gg. I'm dual as well, and try to keep up to speed on things in both places. that mr burns sticks his nose in US business when he is so loud about being an attorney in Canada just grates me the wrong way. thanks for answering, dezi....I'm popping in and out of here tonight
|
|
deziloooooo
Senior Associate
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:22:04 GMT -5
Posts: 10,723
|
Post by deziloooooo on Feb 13, 2011 20:39:24 GMT -5
Mr Burns the attorney..is a citizen of our friends to the North..he has some interesting comments from time to time as to how we are in deep doo doo here in the southern 48 and how bad we seem to be doing things and interesting to him , ideas to fix things...mmm , not sure if we get the solutions to our many problems from him , lots of complaints however....just sit back, he'll be by shortly. Oh, thanks Desi. I thought that maybe Chiver was referring to me!! (DH is 1/2 Canadian and my grandkids all have dual citizenship - US and Canada) Naaa we don't look into poster credentials that closly , unless volunteered..so much here is tongue in cheek anyway.
|
|
chiver78
Administrator
Current Events Admin
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 13:04:45 GMT -5
Posts: 38,388
|
Post by chiver78 on Feb 13, 2011 20:41:43 GMT -5
Is having been born in Hawaii sufficient? Aren't there any other circumstances surrounding his birth that are important? For instance, could the child, , , born in the United States, , , , of an alien, (whether it was a legal or an illegal alien), ever become president without changing any of the current requirements for that office? "legal or otherwise"....so you mean to say that me, a natural-born American citizen born of another natural-born American and a legal green card carrying immigrant, would not be allowed to run for President, if I so chose? everything I've ever learned in American public schools has told me otherwise. Hawaii was a State in the Union at the time of his birth. to me, that makes him just as American as you or me.
|
|