Complete Bummer!!

[973beachbum]

Mar 20, 2013 9:52:16 GMT -5 @tbird said:

Mar 20, 2013 8:36:44 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

I think there is a difference between a consultant who chooses which boards to work with and a rank and file employee who gets this added into their job with no extra compensation.  I would do somethings like the softball game with no worries about extra money just because.  The trip to a ski resort I would say a polite no thank you, unless the company paid all the expenses. 

They may have no problem with those expenses like ski clothes but I don't ski and a $500 outift to which I would never use again, because I don't ski, just isn't in my budget.

When I worked at the one company that had the softball and golf days they did have some people who didn't come because of family or other obligations.  I don't know if it effected them as far as promotions but I never saw any evidence of it.  I could see if someone was fairly high up the food chain being bad for their prospects of moving up even farther. 

i dont get to "choose", i go where im told and i was pissed off at my workload/travel before i got another board added who is 2-3 meetings/year.

When i accepted this job, i wrked 3-4 sat or sun per year, not out of town...now it is up to 8 or more entire trips of 2-4 days.  No additional compensation, used to get comp time hours but not anymore.

See then I think you are being abused also. This is the type of thing that finally you will get pissed enough that you quit to find a job that doesn't abuse you and the bosses will say "but we were so good about giving her all those great extra opportunities".

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We get this sometimes.  Once all the ninth grade teachers had to go on a weekend "retreat."  I hated every minute of it, particularly because we had to bunk two to a room.  There was absolutely no privacy the entire weekend.

Oh, we also had to cook our own meals.  That was part of the team-building.

You didn't HAVE to go, but as an untenured teacher, you do what you are told if it's harmless.

[movingforward]

Mar 20, 2013 9:52:16 GMT -5 @tbird said:

Mar 20, 2013 8:36:44 GMT -5 973beachbum said:

I think there is a difference between a consultant who chooses which boards to work with and a rank and file employee who gets this added into their job with no extra compensation.  I would do somethings like the softball game with no worries about extra money just because.  The trip to a ski resort I would say a polite no thank you, unless the company paid all the expenses. 

They may have no problem with those expenses like ski clothes but I don't ski and a $500 outift to which I would never use again, because I don't ski, just isn't in my budget.

When I worked at the one company that had the softball and golf days they did have some people who didn't come because of family or other obligations.  I don't know if it effected them as far as promotions but I never saw any evidence of it.  I could see if someone was fairly high up the food chain being bad for their prospects of moving up even farther. 

i dont get to "choose", i go where im told and i was pissed off at my workload/travel before i got another board added who is 2-3 meetings/year.

When i accepted this job, i wrked 3-4 sat or sun per year, not out of town...now it is up to 8 or more entire trips of 2-4 days.  No additional compensation, used to get comp time hours but not anymore.

What happen to comp time?  I technically don't get comp time either but sometimes I just take it anyway and my supervisor doesn't say much about it. 

[movingforward]

Mar 20, 2013 10:37:04 GMT -5 @southernsusana said:

We get this sometimes.  Once all the ninth grade teachers had to go on a weekend "retreat."  I hated every minute of it, particularly because we had to bunk two to a room.  There was absolutely no privacy the entire weekend.

Oh, we also had to cook our own meals.  That was part of the team-building.

You didn't HAVE to go, but as an untenured teacher, you do what you are told if it's harmless.

That sounds horrid to me.  What I really hate is when companies try to convince people that they are actually doing this as a benefit for the staff and that is "fun."  Seriously... I see these people all week long and WTH makes you think I want to spend my weekend with them.  If you want to do something for your staff then give them an extra day off, a bonus, etc.  Don't force them to waste a weekend doing some crap they don't want to do.

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If it's once a year, suck it up.  I'm salaried and have had many weekends over my career chewed up, or partially chewed up, by business travel.  Usually it involves getting in Sunday so you're in the office first thing Monday, or even getting in Saturday so you have enough time to get over jet lag at your new destination.  Now some of the destinations have been ones that I loved so much I was happy to be there on someone else's dime, but sometimes the journey was rough.  I spent my 60th birthday stuck in O'Hare due to a mechanical failure and didn't get into my hotel room till 4:30 AM on a Saturday after a Friday 9 PM flight to London was finally cancelled, and then had to repeat the whole thing the next night (which, amusingly, was Groundhog Day) and finally got to London a day late.

You have my sympathy on the baseball game, though.  I'll ride a bike 20 miles but don't ask me to play baseball- I'm awful at it.  And don't expect me to stay awake watching the game, either.

[lurkyloo]

I think I would suddenly remember a family wedding or other event that fell on that weekend and couldn't be skipped.  Seriously, that's not much notice for a time that employees could reasonably expect to have off and therefore have other plans.

[Knee Deep in Water Chloe]

Lol! I meant read a book at the softball game, not the board meeting! 

Mar 20, 2013 9:45:04 GMT -5 movingforward said:

Mar 20, 2013 8:45:59 GMT -5 Knee Deep in Water Chloe said:

Phoenix and beacchbum,
Both DH and I have board meetings at least I once per month. They start at 6:30pm and often go until 9:30pm. We are salaried employees and required to attend our respective meetings. Hourly employees are not required to attend. 


I was going to suggest taking a book to read!

Hmmm... I am pretty sure if I sat in a board meeting reading a book I would be dismissed immediately.  That kind of thing doesn't go over well at my company.  I don't mind the occasional weekend or evening meeting.  That goes with the territory of most any job.  In fact, we have conference calls every Monday 9PM.  My biggest problem with this particular weekend meeting is the mandatory Saturday spent at the softball tournament and the spreading out of the meeting for a few hours over the course of 3


days when it could be done in one shot and over with.  I find it pretty ridiculous to demand employees to sit at a softball field all day long.  That type of thing should definitely be voluntary.