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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 21:53:40 GMT -5
Today i was dropping of my son at daycare. This little girl about 1 was wearing a dress with a thin long sleeve shirt under and teeny tiny short socks! Her legs were naked up to her diaper! It was about 40 degrees out and i dont think it even got to 50 all day! I cannot imagine going outside like that myself in that weather, let alone having my baby go out like that. Would you? The part that gets to me is everytime i see this girl her nose is runny. Now my son has a runny nose and an ear infection. I cant help but think her parents' ignorance got her sick and she got my son sick. Is this unreasonable to think?
Am i being too overprotective by dressing my child in layers?
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Post by swamp on Feb 19, 2013 21:55:22 GMT -5
I'm probably not the one to ask. DD is 5 and she refuses to,zip up her coat or wear hat and mittens even when it's below zero.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 21:57:21 GMT -5
At least she wears a coat, right? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by swamp on Feb 19, 2013 22:00:48 GMT -5
Sometimes, lol. She's been known to take it off.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Feb 19, 2013 22:42:24 GMT -5
Today i was dropping of my son at daycare. This little girl about 1 was wearing a dress with a thin long sleeve shirt under and teeny tiny short socks! Her legs were naked up to her diaper! It was about 40 degrees out and i dont think it even got to 50 all day! I cannot imagine going outside like that myself in that weather, let alone having my baby go out like that. Would you? ...no, but I see it often...The part that gets to me is everytime i see this girl her nose is runny. Now my son has a runny nose and an ear infection. I cant help but think her parents' ignorance got her sick and she got my son sick. Is this unreasonable to think? ...no, but myob, anyway... ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/tongue.png) Am i being too overprotective by dressing my child in layers? ...depends...
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Post by tcu2003 on Feb 19, 2013 22:46:01 GMT -5
I'm surprised the daycare hasn't said anything to her parents. We've gotten notes before (sent to all parents in the infant room) about dressing the babies In layers as the room is cool, the floor can be cold, etc. We send DS in a onesie (short or long-sleeved, depending on the weather), pants, socks and shoes every day. Even when it was 90F or more, he wore pants and socks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 22:46:26 GMT -5
DS is a human furnace but I would never think of sending him out in shorts or without a coat in winter.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Feb 19, 2013 23:13:33 GMT -5
I see it all the time. Where I am from, parents always bundled up their kids. I could barely move during winter months, I think I had 500 layers on me, with all kinds of hats and mittens and scarf and everything in between. But here, and I live in a fairly cold state, I see it all the time. Every time my mom visits us and sees that, all she wants to do is run up to those kids and put something warm on them. She does the same thing with my DH. The man has patience of a saint, I don't know how he can stand it.
Also, I don't know if it's true or not, but I thought that you can't get sick from being cold, since it's a virus. Again, when I was a kid, all I heard about - don't go out with wet hair and put your hat on and put on boots on or you are going to get sick. Is it true? I don't know anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 0:05:01 GMT -5
You don't get sick from being cold, but a body working to regulate temperature will take energy away from other processes, like fighting off germs and viruses.
That said, unless kids are playing outside in those clothes, it isn't likely to be an issue. We are hot people. My husband loves to make fun of my 'winter sandals'...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 2:48:48 GMT -5
"Every time my mom visits us and sees that, all she wants to do is run up to those kids and put something warm on them" Are you my sister? My mom made the same comments. I dont know if you can or cant get sick from cold but my guess is there is a reason why it is called a "cold" ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) if i go outside in a tshirt with wet hair when it is freezing outside, you can bet i ll get sick and i hardly ever get sick.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 2:54:05 GMT -5
They are not old enough to play outside but they take buggy rides. And they play on the floor inside, it is not that warm inside.
That reminds me something else. Everybody at any daycare i have been to walk around with their shoes on the ground where babies crawl, lick the floors. Some or all of you may think i am being too nitpicky but considering they go to the restroom in those shoes, they walk outside in those shoes and who knows what they are stepping on, it makes me cringe that my son is on that floor. But obviously i cant dictate the entire daycare to take off their shoes:(
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 20, 2013 7:38:15 GMT -5
They are not old enough to play outside but they take buggy rides. And they play on the floor inside, it is not that warm inside. That reminds me something else. Everybody at any daycare i have been to walk around with their shoes on the ground where babies crawl, lick the floors. Some or all of you may think i am being too nitpicky but considering they go to the restroom in those shoes, they walk outside in those shoes and who knows what they are stepping on, it makes me cringe that my son is on that floor. But obviously i cant dictate the entire daycare to take off their shoes:( At my coworker's daycare shoes have to come off or you put booties on like they wear in an OR. I don't really think it is too picky. They have areas where you can wear shoes but in the rooms where the kids will be on the floor, no shoes.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 20, 2013 7:39:13 GMT -5
They are not old enough to play outside but they take buggy rides. And they play on the floor inside, it is not that warm inside. That reminds me something else. Everybody at any daycare i have been to walk around with their shoes on the ground where babies crawl, lick the floors. Some or all of you may think i am being too nitpicky but considering they go to the restroom in those shoes, they walk outside in those shoes and who knows what they are stepping on, it makes me cringe that my son is on that floor. But obviously i cant dictate the entire daycare to take off their shoes ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/sad.png) www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=early-exposure-to-germs-has-laThis article may be useful in reducing some of your fears. Like you, I was very concerned about DD's health when she was young and our doctor recommended I do some research on early exposure to germs, and what I found helped me deal with it a little better.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 20, 2013 8:20:39 GMT -5
Will this comment help? My pediatrician said kids bodies are warmer, they are much more active than we are and that no child willingly starves themself or freezes them self. When they're cold, they'll deal with it just like if they're hungry. It was a VERY hard lesson for me to learn and I'm still not done learning it. I've been known to make my 24 year old DD put a sweater on because I am cold.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 8:26:53 GMT -5
My mom can see a sliver of exposed skin on my kids from across the room to which she will then bundle them up like they are going to the tundra. Both my kids are always warm and my older daughter usually just sleeps in undies at home. That said, I would have put leggings on under the dress before sending my kid to daycare.
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Post by tcu2003 on Feb 20, 2013 9:03:56 GMT -5
They are not old enough to play outside but they take buggy rides. And they play on the floor inside, it is not that warm inside. That reminds me something else. Everybody at any daycare i have been to walk around with their shoes on the ground where babies crawl, lick the floors. Some or all of you may think i am being too nitpicky but considering they go to the restroom in those shoes, they walk outside in those shoes and who knows what they are stepping on, it makes me cringe that my son is on that floor. But obviously i cant dictate the entire daycare to take off their shoes:( At my coworker's daycare shoes have to come off or you put booties on like they wear in an OR. I don't really think it is too picky. They have areas where you can wear shoes but in the rooms where the kids will be on the floor, no shoes. The daycare DS attends is like this. We take our shoes off or put the booties on when we drop off or pick up each day. It's only in the infant room - for the toddler and older rooms, shoes on are fine. I know at least one of the infant teachers has shoes that she keeps at school and only wears in the infant classroom.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 9:11:00 GMT -5
" Like you, I was very concerned about DD's health when she was young and our doctor recommended I do some research on early exposure to germs, and what I found helped me deal with it a little better."
Let me ask this, would you get on the floor and lick the floor knowing everybody with their shoes is walking on it?
"Will this comment help? My pediatrician said kids bodies are warmer, they are much more active than we are and that no child willingly starves themself or freezes them self. When they're cold, they'll deal with it just like if they're hungry."
My son's pediatrician and his doctors at the Children's Hospital said to put 1 more layer than myself on an infant. I understand a 3+ year old would be able to do this but a 1 year old? It is not like this little girl could have said she is cold. I think she may be used to it though. I don't even want to put him in shorts in the summer because the infant care center was so cold! And it was so hot and humid outside, how could they not get sick going from cold to hot to cold...?
"It's only in the infant room - for the toddler and older rooms, shoes on are fine."
I would be okay with this. I guess I still see my son as an infant. He is 13.5 months but his corrected age is 10 months.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 9:14:03 GMT -5
Going back to the link that was posted on germs and immune system... My mom is a clean freak, and a very very extreme one. So needless to say me and my sister grew up in a very clean environment (think a laboratory for very sensitive tests ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png) ). However, neither of us hardly ever got sick as a child or get sick as an adult.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 20, 2013 9:16:51 GMT -5
Because you don't get sick from going to hot to cold to hot again. Otherwise my kids would have always been sick and they were as healthy as can be. I see kids not dressed enough in my mind all over the place and usually their parents are dressed warmer. So it isn't ignorance, it's comfort.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 9:20:35 GMT -5
Maybe the girl was squirming after her last diaper change so the DCP left her tights off, since she would be inside the rest of the day?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Feb 20, 2013 9:25:45 GMT -5
I had colds and sinus infections all summer long the year my babysitter didn't have ac. It was awful to be sick constantly all summer.
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Post by Pants on Feb 20, 2013 9:26:34 GMT -5
bunnysmom - if you go outside in a tshirt with wet hair, you will get a cold if and only if you are exposed to the cold virus. Like oped said, it can take energy away from other areas of your body/bodily processes, but just being cold is not going to make you sick. That's very old thinking.
The kid is an infant - the parents of infants can make mistakes, like when I sent DD to daycare in a hoodie and short-sleeve shirt and didn't realize they have to take the hoodie off to put her to sleep (rollover choking risk or something.) Not my proudest day, but she is fine. Could be this baby is warm-blooded and doesn't like all the layers. Could be they sent her in tights and she peed on them and daycare was out of replacement clothes. But yes, it's really not your business. And, at least at our daycare, the providers will let me know if I need to be doing something different in terms of dressing her.
Also, bunny is in daycare - he is going to get sick. DD has been sick (runny nose, etc.) since October-ish. Just what daycare does.
Finally, Re: the floor - our daycare does the no-shoes or hospital booties thing as well. This I think you could actually bring up with the daycare.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 9:26:44 GMT -5
No, this was at drop-off, she was just dropped off (opens at 7 am, I was there at 7:10, they don't change them that quick). And when i made a comment regarding the her legs being cold, the worker (owner's daughter) said I guess daddy dressed her this morning (not that her mother dresses her any different). Well, maybe she wasn't cold, she is a little chunky...
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Post by steph08 on Feb 20, 2013 9:26:47 GMT -5
" Like you, I was very concerned about DD's health when she was young and our doctor recommended I do some research on early exposure to germs, and what I found helped me deal with it a little better." Let me ask this, would you get on the floor and lick the floor knowing everybody with their shoes is walking on it?
"Will this comment help? My pediatrician said kids bodies are warmer, they are much more active than we are and that no child willingly starves themself or freezes them self. When they're cold, they'll deal with it just like if they're hungry." My son's pediatrician and his doctors at the Children's Hospital said to put 1 more layer than myself on an infant. I understand a 3+ year old would be able to do this but a 1 year old? It is not like this little girl could have said she is cold. I think she may be used to it though. I don't even want to put him in shorts in the summer because the infant care center was so cold! And it was so hot and humid outside, how could they not get sick going from cold to hot to cold...? "It's only in the infant room - for the toddler and older rooms, shoes on are fine." I would be okay with this. I guess I still see my son as an infant. He is 13.5 months but his corrected age is 10 months. Well, I'm one of those "five-second rule" people, so I do eat food that I've dropped on the floor knowing people have walked on it wearing shoes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 9:31:54 GMT -5
Honestly I am okay with 5 second rule for myself but you wouldn't lick the floor, would you? ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png)
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Post by vonna on Feb 20, 2013 9:39:31 GMT -5
Well, perhaps I should have been turned in for child neglect, but if being outside was just a trip from the warm car to a warm building, I didn't bundle my kids or myself up too much. Especially with how some buildings are overheated in the winter.
However, I did always have something covering my daughter's diaper when we went somewhere -- bloomers/shorts in warm weather or leggings/tights in colder.
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Post by skubikky on Feb 20, 2013 9:47:07 GMT -5
Honestly I am okay with 5 second rule for myself but you wouldn't lick the floor, would you? ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png) There are probably many things that your son is exposed to. Not every kid who is dropped off has been scrubbed and thoroughly disinfected. For that matter, neither have the care givers. Of course you can voice your concern to the day care center. But, in addition, as you have concerns about what your child is going to be exposed to, you might consider talking to his doctor to get some factual information.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 20, 2013 10:02:27 GMT -5
Well, perhaps I should have been turned in for child neglect, but if being outside was just a trip from the warm car to a warm building, I didn't bundle my kids or myself up too much. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> Same here. When she was a newborn I used a car seat cover rather than wrapping her up in a million layers and have to adjust the car seat straps. My MIL gets mad at us because we don’t make Gwen wear a hat every time she goes outside. Some days it is just not worth trying to fight with her over it, especially when she only has a short trip from the car to inside. Then this will REALLY get CPS called on me, I am not paranoid about floors. I let my kid eat a Cheeto she found on the floor at the Durham museum because it was already half gone by the time I saw her and it wasn’t worth fighting over. Same with a cracker she found at Target.
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Post by milee on Feb 20, 2013 10:05:02 GMT -5
Are you overprotective or are others too relaxed? Not sure, but the best solution is probably somewhere in the middle.
FWIW, if you are going to have your son in day care and then public school (heck, even many private schools), your life will be much, much better if you can work on allowing imperfection. For environments like that where you have little to no control, you're only going to drive yourself nuts by looking for and worrying about all the strange and disgusting things that go on. Although you gain in cost savings by putting your son in a group environment, you also have to expect that it's not going to be run exactly the way you would and that there's going to be a pretty wide range of behaviour and what's considered acceptable. Just part of the territory.
Unless you see something that's way outside the Bell curve of normal, make a conscious effort to just let it go...
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