mrsdutt
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Jan 6, 2013 13:39:46 GMT -5
Post by mrsdutt on Jan 6, 2013 13:39:46 GMT -5
I didn't say it was a problem. You need to find someone else to split hairs with. Good luck with that.
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Jan 6, 2013 14:35:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 14:35:09 GMT -5
I just think that it would be a good idea to have this type of document in place. If you disagree, you disagree.
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beags
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Jan 7, 2013 22:57:00 GMT -5
Post by beags on Jan 7, 2013 22:57:00 GMT -5
I am not one for forcing people into anything. (even if it is in their best interest)
I am not one for silencing people either. (there's too much of that already in our world. The truth is silenced way too often.)
Truth is sometimes altered. I mean if the liar gets 5 or more friends to back him/her up, it's still a lie. Silencing the opposition does not make your version the truth.
(this was not directed towards anyone, just thoughts that run through my head.)
Death is still better than living.
From the moment you are born onto this planet until the moment you die . . all you have is time. They say it's what you do with that time that matters. But does it really?
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Jan 8, 2013 7:03:39 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 7:03:39 GMT -5
How is death "better" than living? You have all of eternity to be "dead". We have a short time on earth so why not make the most of it? Does it matter? I don't know. I believe it does. Does it matter when you go to a nursing home and hold someone's hand? Does it matter if you give a child a hug? Does it matter if take a meal to a sick friend? I guess that is a question we all have to wrestle with and grasp for ourselves. And, we can't control how much time we have but we can control what we do with that time at this moment, today.
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beags
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Jan 8, 2013 8:04:50 GMT -5
Post by beags on Jan 8, 2013 8:04:50 GMT -5
It's an eternity here on earth as well. With the way the world has gone, trust me, death is better.
Oh, I do, despite all the miserable jerks living in it.
For a short time. You could be the last person that gave them any attention.
Again, for a short time. What child doesn't need a hug now and then? There's a lot of hurting children out there who have parents that won't give them the time of day. Do you think my hug makes a world of difference to them when they go back to their hell?
I've done that several times. I've even driven them to the hospital and taken in their children for a week or so while they were in there. AND driven the children to the hospital to see their mom. Again, matters for a short time.
That statement is true, but in the end, does any of it matter?
I'm not saying I would change anything that I do when it comes to the nice things. I would do them all again. I would hug that child that needs one. I would hold that hand. I would take care of a sick friend. I've bought bags of groceries for people that I know need it, even when it was the last of the money I had in the bank. Would I do that again? You bet your hind end I would.
What I'm asking is, in the end, when your'e dead, does it matter to any of them? My guess is, it doesn't. Would I stop what I'm doing? No, I wouldn't. The world could use some more nice people rather than the ones who are miserable and want to take everyone else down with them.
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Jan 8, 2013 8:34:24 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 8:34:24 GMT -5
Again, for a short time. What child doesn't need a hug now and then? There's a lot of hurting children out there who have parents that won't give them the time of day. Do you think my hug makes a world of difference to them when they go back to their hell?
Yes. for a short time. Yes it DOES make a difference. Having that hug might give them the strength to go on for another day. That hug or encouragement might be the thing they grasp on to until they get out.
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Jan 8, 2013 8:36:36 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 8:36:36 GMT -5
Beags - What is this "hell on earth" you keep talking about? I am sorry you are going through a difficult time. And, we have all gone through difficult times. But, you can't have a beautiful rose if you don't have thorns and a lot of excrement around it. Everyone gets a dose of that. So, you can focus on the excrement and thorns or the rose. The difficulties and tragedies in no way diminish the beauty of the rose. We can look upon that or not.
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Jan 8, 2013 8:37:42 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 8:37:42 GMT -5
That statement is true, but in the end, does any of it matter?
It matters NOW, in that moment. Why is that not simply enough?
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Jan 8, 2013 13:01:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 13:01:35 GMT -5
Again, for a short time. What child doesn't need a hug now and then? There's a lot of hurting children out there who have parents that won't give them the time of day. Do you think my hug makes a world of difference to them when they go back to their hell? Yes. for a short time. Yes it DOES make a difference. Having that hug might give them the strength to go on for another day. That hug or encouragement might be the thing they grasp on to until they get out. Shooby,
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Jan 8, 2013 13:13:52 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 13:13:52 GMT -5
beags, What I'm asking is, in the end, when your'e dead, does it matter to any of them? My guess is, it doesn't. Would I stop what I'm doing? No, I wouldn't. The world could use some more nice people rather than the ones who are miserable and want to take everyone else down with them.You sounds like, you are not matter to anyone. Of course, you are. How about your family. You don't think they are not going to miss you after you are gone. That is such an sad statement. beags. I didn't see that in you that you are so unhappy. You want to take everyone else down with you..... How about professorial counseling, that might help you.
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mmhmm
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Jan 8, 2013 14:58:19 GMT -5
Post by mmhmm on Jan 8, 2013 14:58:19 GMT -5
Kindness given always matters, and not just in the moment. That kindness lives on in the memory of the receiver. Hopefully, it will be paid forward in some small way.
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beags
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Jan 8, 2013 21:29:20 GMT -5
Post by beags on Jan 8, 2013 21:29:20 GMT -5
Alright, you all misunderstanding me.
One I am not miserable and I don't want to take everyone down with me. If I was a miserable person, everyone at work would not look forward to me coming in. I am actually quite the goofy little thing despite the meaness in this world.
What I meant by "does the hug really matter?" was that it isn't going to change his life. Sure he/she may remember it, it may get him/her through the day. BUT it isn't going to change that child's home situation. When you see it, it's almost like nobody cares. The social workers are over worked and underpaid. So they ignore the phone calls UNLESS there is extreme noticable physical abuse. The child goes back to his hell with perhaps a hug. Sure that hug may his/her security blanket, but it doesn't change anything.
I can be a happy person, but it doesn't change the miserable people out there.
I am not going to change the world that I am in. I am going to be me, because that is all I can be. BUT the world is getting more nasty. If this is how the world is going be, well I'll welcome death anytime it wants to come knocking. THAT'S what I meant.
I mean we have people in the medical profession who are some of the most nasty people out there. And they aren't that patient with the people either. Now granted, they are dealing with some nasty people as well. BUT they don't have to treat everyone as if they are one of those people. Going to the doctor's office lately is more like being a cow herded into slaughter. Nobody wants to take any time.
I remember the time when the doctor use to take some time with you, that's not the case anymore. I remember when fixing the patient was more important than getting the money. Now it's money first, to hell with the patient unless that patient is dying.
The health care system is not the only place that I have noticed a change for the worse. You see more people who don't care about others, than you do who do care. That is even evident on these boards as well as in real life. People say the boards aren't a reflection of real life, but in a way they are. I know some people come here who are exactly the opposite of how they are in real life . . . if you ask me it's those people with split personalities who need a shrink more than I do.
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Jan 8, 2013 21:33:58 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 21:33:58 GMT -5
Well, i would disagree that the hug for the disadvantaged child "doesn't matter or doesn't change" anything. The changes come first in the heart and then move outward. While there may be no immediate change in that child's situation doesn't mean there isn't a longer term effect that you may not be seeing or might never see. We can all look back at someone who with one small act has deeply touched and affected our lives. People who probably have no idea of the huge impact they have had on us.
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beags
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Jan 9, 2013 9:10:42 GMT -5
Post by beags on Jan 9, 2013 9:10:42 GMT -5
My new fave song . . .
It's all we can do, right? Carry on.
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Jan 9, 2013 9:12:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 9:12:16 GMT -5
beags - Is something only important if it last forever? If in that moment, you give someone a hug, isn't that enough?
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Jan 9, 2013 9:35:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 9:35:03 GMT -5
Kindness given always matters, and not just in the moment. That kindness lives on in the memory of the receiver. Hopefully, it will be paid forward in some small way. Good morning, mmhmm That was my prior experience. When I look back, I have had many people helped me along the way made me look at things different way then the way I was feeling at that time. Hope, all is well with you.
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beags
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Jan 9, 2013 20:27:47 GMT -5
Post by beags on Jan 9, 2013 20:27:47 GMT -5
If you only knew how many kids I have and still do hug . you wouldn't ask that question.
The thing I was saying is that it doesn't change his/her home life. I've given many kids attention in my lifetime and they still come talk to me when they are having problems. Eventually they stop, but would I have changed a thing at the moment? No. Would I change now? NO. I am just saying it doesn't change their home life.
Hopefully it changes them. For if they only have the house they grow up in . . . . well, they don't have a bright future. If someone cares, then perhaps the kid stands a chance. But even then, sometimes they leave us all too soon. (as in they commit suicide or do something else that is going to get them killed)
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ZaireinHD
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Jan 15, 2013 0:37:25 GMT -5
Post by ZaireinHD on Jan 15, 2013 0:37:25 GMT -5
When is there a "good" time to joke about someone that past away? or does it depend on who past away to make jokes?
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