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OMG! I've never heard of anything like this. So the ibuprofen eat into you or what. ---------------- NSAIDS ( Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammary Drugs) can be very dangerous. There is no question that the risks of NSAIDs can be serious, even life-threatening. According to the American Gastroenterological Association (AGA), each year the side effects of NSAIDs hospitalize over 100,000 people and kill 16,500 in the U.S., mostly due to bleeding stomach ulcers. But it's important to put those numbers in context. The AGA also says that every day, more than 30 million Americans use NSAIDs for pain from headaches, arthritis, and other conditions. And while some experts emphasize the dangers, others stress that living with chronic pain is terrible in itself. www.webmd.com/osteoarthritis/features/are-nsaids-safe-for-you Absolutely welts! In fact, there really seem to be trying ram NSAIDs down our throats. I do everything i can NOT to take them. Not only do they cause GI bleeding but also kidney (renal failure). They are very harsh drugs and i think we view them as benign. Also Tylenol can cause liver failure. Yet, we have tylenol hidden in all kinds of things. I wonder if people really know how much tylenol they are taking? No drug is benign.
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Post by beags on Jan 3, 2013 1:08:23 GMT -5
The warnings are on the bottles. If you get the stronger prescription of the same thing, the doctor, and/or pharmacist warns you of the side effects as well. it is up to you to figure out if the pain relief is worth the risk. Many people feel it is.
Also there are many people who take these meds without a problem. I would say if one has a problem on their first try . . there is something heriditary that must cause a reaction like this or something in their lifestyle that causes it. I don't think one time , or once in a while, use of these drugs can cause that much of a problem under normal circumstances.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 1:26:22 GMT -5
The pain was unimaginable! When I started puking up copious amounts of blood, it was time to call an ambulance. I was in Intensive Care for quite some time. They just couldn't stop the bleeding. As a caveat, this isn't to say that all people should avoid NSAIDS. They don't hurt most people, taken in moderation. I'm speshul. This is one of the reasons I always requested an H. Pylori with my routine blood tests, welts. So many people have the little monsters milling around causing trouble, and the person doesn't even know it. The ulcers may be small and not yet symptomatic. Add in NSAIDS and you've got a recipe for trouble. I've been surprised at how many unknowing folks needed treatment to get rid of this pesky trouble-maker!
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 1:28:32 GMT -5
OMG! I've never heard of anything like this. So the ibuprofen eat into you or what. ---------------- NSAIDS ( Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammary Drugs) can be very dangerous. There is no question that the risks of NSAIDs can be serious, even life-threatening. According to the American Gastroenterological Association (AGA), each year the side effects of NSAIDs hospitalize over 100,000 people and kill 16,500 in the U.S., mostly due to bleeding stomach ulcers. But it's important to put those numbers in context. The AGA also says that every day, more than 30 million Americans use NSAIDs for pain from headaches, arthritis, and other conditions. And while some experts emphasize the dangers, others stress that living with chronic pain is terrible in itself. www.webmd.com/osteoarthritis/features/are-nsaids-safe-for-you Absolutely welts! In fact, there really seem to be trying ram NSAIDs down our throats. I do everything i can NOT to take them. Not only do they cause GI bleeding but also kidney (renal failure). They are very harsh drugs and i think we view them as benign. Also Tylenol can cause liver failure. Yet, we have tylenol hidden in all kinds of things. I wonder if people really know how much tylenol they are taking? No drug is benign. I detest Tylenol far more than NSAIDS, actually. Tylenol is a hidden killer because it's in so damned many things! Why on earth it was deemed wise to mix every damned thing in the pharmaceutical world with an unhealthy dose of Tylenol will forever remain a mystery to me.
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Post by InsertCoolName on Jan 3, 2013 2:04:54 GMT -5
My husband has been gone now for almost a month(Saturday is 1 month) and I am noticing that a rage that is just barely under control. The smallest of things will set me off.
Is this normal? And how do I let it go? I don't like the negative energy. And I certainly do not want to 'go off' on someone, even if they are rude. That just isn't me.
Have any of you felt this? How did you work through it? How long does it last?
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 3, 2013 2:16:32 GMT -5
I went through the same thing when my DH died, coolname. It IS natural to be angry - it's usually the first emotion you feel right after the grief. I found that using a small pillow and screaming into it when I felt the rage building helped release it from me. I'd also beat it with my fists and get the anger out.
In the summer I drove out to the countryside - and stood outside in solitude and yelled at him for an hour until I'd cried myself out. It took me almost a year to finally find my peace again - and I still think about him every day - but the anger of him leaving has faded slowly - it's been 2 years now and it's still not all gone - but it's getting better.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:18:27 GMT -5
Yes, CoolName, anger is a normal part of the grieving process. Unfortunately, how long it lasts is different for each individual. Trying to fill your time with activities (hobbies, shopping, visiting with friends, movies, whatever you really enjoy doing) will help to while away the hours and keep your mind busy. When I felt the anger coming on, I tried to do something with my hands (knit or crochet, or do some other hand craft) while giving myself a stern talking-to about what I was feeling and that it was okay to be angry as long as I didn't turn it on the innocent. Sometimes, it well help to just let it all out. Have a good cry, or beat up your pillow. Just know you've got a right to be furious. Something very dear has been taken from you. Give yourself the freedom to feel your honest feelings without tasking yourself to fight them. While it's not nearly as easy to realize as it is to say ... this, too, will pass, hon.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:19:15 GMT -5
LOL, SL. Beating up on one's pillow must be a universal method of getting rid of building anger! ;D
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 3, 2013 2:21:32 GMT -5
Surprisingly, the pillow survived.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:21:32 GMT -5
My husband has been gone for going on five years now. The anger has mostly dissipated. I still think of him daily, and remember our time together. Occasionally, I still rail at him for leaving me, but I get over it quickly and move on. When you've loved someone so very much, it's just not that easy to let go. There will always be memories, and there will always be regret. We just learn to compensate for it with good things in the now.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:22:25 GMT -5
Yeah, so did my pillow, SL. Well, to be honest, it was HIS pillow I beat the tar out of.
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This is one of the reasons I always requested an H. Pylori with my routine blood tests, welts. So many people have the little monsters milling around causing trouble, and the person doesn't even know it. The ulcers may be small and not yet symptomatic. Add in NSAIDS and you've got a recipe for trouble. I've been surprised at how many unknowing folks needed treatment to get rid of this pesky trouble-maker! -------------- I was diagnosed with h. pylori many, many years ago, way before this incident. It took two courses of heavy-duty antibiotics, but we got rid of it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 3, 2013 2:27:04 GMT -5
My husband has been gone now for almost a month(Saturday is 1 month) and I am noticing that a rage that is just barely under control. The smallest of things will set me off. Is this normal? And how do I let it go? I don't like the negative energy. And I certainly do not want to 'go off' on someone, even if they are rude. That just isn't me. Have any of you felt this? How did you work through it? How long does it last? Yes, it's perfectly natural. Actually, I would be concerned if you DIDN'T experience this. It's all part of the normal grieving process, and it's healthy. Have you looked into joining a bereavment group? It helped me immensely. Your local hospital should have some resource numbers.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:27:05 GMT -5
The stuff can really do some damage before people even know they have it, welts. I do not understand why doctors don't routinely check for it, but I've had to fight with some of them I know to make them understand it really is important. Why let an ulcer start if you can prevent the damned thing? Makes no earthly sense, and the test just isn't that expensive!
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 3, 2013 2:29:46 GMT -5
The stuff can really do some damage before people even know they have it, welts. I do not understand why doctors don't routinely check for it, but I've had to fight with some of them I know to make them understand it really is important. Why let an ulcer start if you can prevent the damned thing? Makes no earthly sense, and the test just isn't that expensive! It's become routine to test for it here, mmhmm.
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Post by Jaguar on Jan 3, 2013 2:34:28 GMT -5
When I got really sick from iron overload the first time and didn't know why I was sick, that's what I was tested for first an ulcer.
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:36:02 GMT -5
The stuff can really do some damage before people even know they have it, welts. I do not understand why doctors don't routinely check for it, but I've had to fight with some of them I know to make them understand it really is important. Why let an ulcer start if you can prevent the damned thing? Makes no earthly sense, and the test just isn't that expensive! It's become routine to test for it here, mmhmm. That's good to hear! Maybe some of these hard-heads will pick up the message!
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Post by mmhmm on Jan 3, 2013 2:37:06 GMT -5
When I got really sick from iron overload the first time and didn't know why I was sick, that's what I was tested for first an ulcer. What I really hoped to accomplish for my patients, Sugi, was never to have to test for an ulcer by catching the darned bacteria before it had a chance to cause one.
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Whoa.. . a similar thing happened a couple of months ago I had toothache and took ibuprofen for a couple of days until my appointment at the dentists. I got the most dreadful chest pain that I thought it was my heart. Doctor told me the next day I had an inflamed gullet and I was on stomach tablets for a month. He also said it was the result of taking ibuprofen. I'd thought it was harmless pain killer that is quite good for toothache. I've had the H. Pylori test....(the oral tube into your stomach) and don't have it. There are various stages of grief.....denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.... all of which are normal. For a close relative you just have to give yourself time......and it may be in excess of a few years before you reach acceptance. My method of coping was to take care of myself and others..... and stay too busy to think about it. In the early days... I'd be up all night cleaning and polishing (like a mad thing)......though its quite theraputic when you can't sleep. I went back to work, straight after the funeral... and threw myself into that. Then put quiet time aside to have a bit of reflection, where I didn't want to be disturbed......but didn't over-do it. There were grieving kids in the mix and they had to be taken care of. A change of scenery is good....doesn't stop the hurting.. but its a break. Holiday. Time with trusted friends. Gardening, walks in the fresh air..........and just doing what you feel is right for you. It gets better...but it takes time.
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The process of grief is actually ongoing with several stages as the others pointed out. Unfortunately in this country, we usually give people a couple of days to grieve, then they are supposed to "move on" and apparently act is everything is back to normal. We are uncomfortable allowing people to talk about their deceased loved ones, especially when it is shortly thereafter and our emotions are raw. At this point, ICN, you still need to talk and work through your emotions. It helps if there is some other family member you can call or talk to and feel safe to cry with and discuss. I also think you might want to go to a support group. Local hospitals often offer these. And, give yourself permission to feel what you truly feel.
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 3, 2013 9:29:19 GMT -5
LONE said: I believe the world is about to have some kind of awakening, where the wind will become sweet smelling again.
I'm in total agreement with this.
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All i can smell right now is onions.
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All i can smell right now is onions. You really need to stop cooking that crap and go dig out a box of donuts. lone Have a good one. You,too shooby.
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Post by beags on Jan 5, 2013 10:18:31 GMT -5
ICN (insertcoolname) I just saw your post. I haven't had a loved one close to me die. I didn't want to appear as ignoring you either. I think the others gave some sound advice. It does help if you have someone to talk to. I do have people to talk to, I just don't know if any of them would want to listen if that were the case for me. I'd feel weird talking to the kids. So I think I would be in the same boat as you if it ever happened to me. I also don't think the pillow would survive, so I'd go to the store and make sure to buy the real cheap one. I am great at separating work and home, so I'd probably work more. My co-workers are great. If I had a bad day afterwards, they would understand. I'm a procrastinator, I tend to find outlets where I can ignore that of which is around me. (hence, the reason I come here sometimes.)
Everyone is different, and so dealing with grief will be different as well. If there is a support group in your area that has others who are dealing with the loss of loved ones, I would go to it if I were you. Here the church's have them. (I know not everyone is a church person or religious . . . so it kind of bites around here for those who aren't. . . because no place else has those support groups.)
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 6, 2013 10:00:29 GMT -5
If a person is not a 'group' type, that's OK too. You will find what brings you healing. Talking about DH is a good outlet. I would be aware of the steps in healing though. This is so you don't think you're going crazy. Everyone goes through them. The length of each step is different for each individual. The best advice I can give for a solid healing process is don't accept any feeling as being unacceptable. You will get angry that he left you even though you know in your mind he didn't choose to. Go with that one, but not too long.
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 6, 2013 10:03:21 GMT -5
LONE said: I believe the world is about to have some kind of awakening, where the wind will become sweet smelling again. I'm in total agreement with this. I just don't understand how this will all come about. Do you? Will something so drastic happen that it will cause us all to wake up and get our shit together? If that's the case, I'm going to be in serious trouble. Maybe it will be a gradual awakening. Either way, I think interesting times are coming. Yes, I do know how this is happening. Nothing like people are talking about. If you are truly interested, PM me.
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I do think that as a society we often don't want to really face the reality of it. And, i would think that nowadays we really should start requiring people to have an Advance Directive and really ponder some of these issues and make their wishes known in advance. As for grieving, it can be very difficult because it is is often very difficult to talk about. People don't want to talk about the deceased. They sometimes feel that doing so will pain you but in reality it is a relief and joy to be able to freely talk about that person.[/b] 1. Do you really want government interference in this area? 2. My DH was a part of my life since I was 14. I feel I can talk about him any time I'd like. It's no different than someone telling me what their DH did today. Just part of the conversation.
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When you go into a hospital, you provide all kinds of information and consent to treatment. It just makes sense that you have your wishes clearly spelled out in advance. Not sure how that is a problem?
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Post by mrsdutt on Jan 6, 2013 12:57:39 GMT -5
When you go into a hospital, you provide all kinds of information and consent to treatment. It just makes sense that you have your wishes clearly spelled out in advance. Not sure how that is a problem? That's not a problem. The problem would come into play if we were all required by law to provide this information. You used the word require in your original post.
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Well, why would it be a problem to have a legal document in place? We have all kinds of legal documents? I can't drive a car without a legal document? An Advance Directive and Power of Attorney need to be done as legal documents. So, yes, i think that would be reasonable to require.
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