Frankenwheat/Dr. OZ

[Artemis Windsong]

This is not too optimistic. Gluten free is about as close as you can to get away from that wheat.

I became concerned after watching the show and asked a friend who is well read on nutrition. Her DH had read the book. She said there is no way to get away from the Frankenwheat because it is fed to all the animals. Organic isn't organic anymore.

I became lactose intolerant and I feel this is one of the root causes. There is one local brand of yogurt that is pretty pure. My xSIL is severely lactose intolerant; and he can eat that.

[whoisjohngalt]

Read the book Wheat Belly. It's very interesting to find out how today's wheat is so much different from the original one.

I don't know about the addiction factor, but I completely belief that all the "modified" foods are making us unhealthy.

[Deleted]

I am not so sure i subscribe to Dr. Oz. Some of what he says makes sense but then at times he seems to be sensationalizing things as well.

[Deleted]

Dr. Oz also says to take a couple tsps of Safflower oil a day to burn fat, etc.

[Deleted]

Well, just eat a salad a day with oil and vinegar using that.

[Deleted]

I don't know. There is something about Dr. Oz that looks unhealthy to me. He just looks kind of sickly.

[Artemis Windsong]

Jack LaLanne started me exercising in the 70s. Dr. Oz is too thin. I'm sure he is overworked.

[weltschmerz]

Dr. Oz is a fearmonger who promotes quackery. If you'e going to listen to any doctor, I recommend Dr. Joe Schwarcz. He's a proponent of common sense and doesn't run around cautioning people that their lip gloss will kill them.

[weltschmerz]

Dr. Oz gave his approval to pills containing this chemical as a potential weapon against weight gain. On what basis? A couple of studies in mice that showed less weight gain from fatty food then expected when the raspberry ketone made up 2% of their diet and some comments from a personal trainer who “swears by” raspberry ketones. There isn’t even a single study on humans and there is no compelling theoretical reason as to why this compound should have an effect on weight gain in humans. Where does the raspberry ketone in the supplements come from? You might think it comes from raspberries. It could, but it doesn’t. It would be way to expensive to source it from berries. Raspberry ketone, 4-para-hydroxyphenyl-2-butanone as it should properly be called, is the main component in the aroma of raspberries, but is actually present in a very small amount. It can, however, be readily synthesized in the lab and incorporated into capsules. The synthetic compound is identical to the natural version and will work the same way in weight loss. That is to say, not at all. Dr. Oz gets a raspberry for promoting products that make unfounded claims.

www.cjad.com/blog/TheDrJoeSchwarczShow/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10347142

[weltschmerz]

Arsenic in apple juice

First of all, the test used was for total arsenic, not the FDA approved test for inorganic arsenic. FDA in fact has been monitoring arsenic in apple juice for years and has never found a problem. Because The Oz show’s findings were shared with FDA before the program aired, the Agency carried out its own tests on the same samples that were implicated as having high levels. The findings differed from those reported by the lab used by the Dr. Oz show. There is just no evidence that apple juice contains dangerous levels of arsenic. Furthermore there is no evidence that “organic” apple juice (with the term “organic” here being used to describe juice from apples grown without the use of synthetic agrochemicals) is any less likely to contain arsenic. Whatever arsenic ends up in the juice comes from the soil or water, independent of the fruit being grown organically or conventionally. There is no question that arsenic can be very dangerous. Remember Arsenic and Old Lace? The story was fictional, but the science was real. Poisonings are also very real in Bangladesh where large segments of the population are exposed to arsenic through drinking naturally contaminated well water. And in Taiwan, where the arsenic content of water can be grotesquely high, sometimes as high as 150 ppb, increased cancer rates have been noted. Worry about such levels is well founded, but concern about the amounts claimed to be present in apple juice by Dr. Oz, is not. Oz may be a great cardiac surgeon, but in this case his chemistry homework must have been eaten by the dog.

www.cjad.com/blog/TheDrJoeSchwarczShow/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10289572

[weltschmerz]

Joe Schwarcz: TV's Dr. Oz could use a higher threshold for his "miracles"

Miracles are pretty rare events — except on television's Dr. Oz Show, where they appear with astonishing frequency. Oz doesn't claim to raise the dead or part the Red Sea, but he does raise people's hopes of parting with their flab. And he's certainly not shy about flinging the word "miracle" about. But it seems miracles fade as quickly as they appear when it comes to weight loss. Raspberry ketones, acai berries and African mango, once hyped as amazing "fat busters," have already given way to newer wonders.
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Basically, it is clear that if there is any weight loss attributed to Gar-cinia cambogia, it is virtually insignificant. But there may be something else attributed to the supplement, namely kidney problems. Although incidence is rare, even one is too many when the chance of a benefit is so small.

So Garcinia cambogia, like green coffee bean extract, can hardly be called a miracle. But it seems Dr. Oz puts his facts on a diet when it comes to fattening up his television ratings.


Read more: www.montrealgazette.com/health/Schwarcz+could+higher+threshold+miracles/7703083/story.html#ixzz2HXDDSX8r

[Jaguar]

I just saved your link Welts to The Dr. Joe Schwarcz Blog, thanks.

[weltschmerz]

Here's a place you can look up all his informative and entertaining articles. He really knows what he's talking about.
www.chemicallyspeaking.com/

"OK, everybody. Let's calm down."

[Jaguar]

Jan 9, 2013 21:29:07 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Here's a place you can look up all his informative and entertaining articles. He really knows what he's talking about.
www.chemicallyspeaking.com/

"OK, everybody. Let's calm down."

Got it Welts, thanks.

[motherto2]

I am gluten tolerant, and I totally believe it's because things have been chemically altered/engineered.  You never heard of our parents or grandparents having issues.  I've said that about GMO's and that fact that sugar was just as addicting as tobacco or heroin for more than 20 years.  People look at me like I have two heads.  Luckily, I don't have full blown celiac, but my stomach started hurting this afternoon and my ankles swelled up and legs feel like the restless leg syndrome, and very tight.  My gluten triggers don't usually include stomach issues, very surprisingly (although they do sometimes), but the leg/ankle issue is huge for me.  I had all kinds of tests and even chest x-rays a few years ago.  Nothing.  I finally did my own research, and realized I am gluten intolerant.  I had actually been tested for Celiac several years ago, and the test came back negative.  Dr. then wanted me to do another test, which included scooping poop on a stick, and I very politely turned that one down .  I have since researched and found that unless you are severe celiac, the blood test is very high to be negative.  Plus, I guess in my own way, I didn't eat much bread and stuff that included wheat, not realizing that they were issues for me.  I can remember telling people that said I looked like I had lost weight, especially in my face, that all I needed to do was give up carbs and sugar.  I don't think it was so much the sugar, but inflammation from the gluten.  I refuse to go back to eating gluten just to have the test, when I know without a doubt that the gluten is my issue.

Sometimes people actually crave things that are unhealthy for their bodies.  Maybe that is your issue?

And for what it's worth, I have determined that dr. Oz is too much like the Woman's World mag you can buy at the checkout counter.  Each week, they have a different diet that is guaranteed to melt pounds away.  None of them ever work

[motherto2]

Wow, I just watched the link Lone had on the original post.  Maybe I should write a book?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 5, 2012 12:57:51 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

Is anyone keeping up with this? What do you think about it?
I have noticed that when I eat wheat, I will crave other carbs.


www.doctoroz.com/episode/are-you-addicted-wheat

I all but quit eating wheat- I totally cut breakfast cereals (which weren't a big thing for me to begin with), I eliminated toast, muffins, biscuits, garlic bread-- and all ancillary bread side-items.  And I felt MUCH better immediately, so I went on a month-long wheat-o-phobic no wheat diet and I lost 12 pounds in a month with no lifestyle changes whatsoever, and a tremendous increase in energy levels, and just FELT BETTER.  I still indulge (I really don't know how to live without pasta / Italian food.  

Am I completely convinced by the so-called "Frankenwheat" theory? Not necessarily.  I've seen the videos with the ominous narration- but I kinda like science.  Nevertheless, I'm easy pickens for a low-carb, "paleo" diet, so I've been keeping carbs to under 200 mg per day and I will say this- I used to struggle to maintain weight, and mainly because I didn't have the energy I needed to MOVE as much as I needed to- now, I feel better, more energetic, and working out is easier and my weight manages itself.  I went from 248 (an all-time high for me in December) down to 230/235 steady-- with a LOT more muscle and much reduced fat.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jan 9, 2013 8:46:34 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

Jan 9, 2013 8:35:07 GMT -5 @shooby said:

Dr. Oz also says to take a couple tsps of Safflower oil a day to burn fat, etc.

According to a study published in a 2009 issue of "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition," post-menopausal women with type-2 diabetes who ingested 1 2/3 teaspoons of safflower oil a day lost two to four pounds of belly fat. While the time-tested way to lose weight and keep it off is by eating fewer calories than you burn, adding safflower oil, a product of the bright red, thistle-like safflower, to your diet could help.

Just about anyone could lose weight by adding fat to their diet.  

The old SNL "Eat Less, Move More" diet is funny, and even somewhat intuitive- but it's dead wrong.  It's about the WORST thing you can do.  If you're gonna MOVE, you GOTTA EAT.  And people that do cardio but don't do strength training and conditioning along with eating less- are killing themselves.  There's a myth (especially among women) that they don't want to lift weights and be 'huge'- lifting weights doesn't make you huge: CARBS + CARDIO make you huge.

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I felt better when I gave up wheat. I felt even better, and dropped weight, when I gave up corn. Talk about n invasive frankenfood...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

[chiver78]

Jul 29, 2013 22:14:33 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

so I've been keeping carbs to under 200 mg per day

can I ask what you are eating in a day?? produce carries a fair amount of natural carbohydrate. even the induction period of the Atkins diet allows 20g of carbohydrates per day. I think your math may be a bit off...

sent from my electronic distraction

[Deleted]

Jul 29, 2013 22:20:15 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

 PBP presents us with a a one hour and forty+ minute long clip titled "FAT HEAD".

 (I'm trying to find a link to "Don't doubt me. EVER.")

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jul 29, 2013 22:48:11 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

That's a long video, Paul. At 10 minutes an error occurred and it stopped. I hate when it does that!
What was the outcome of his eating experiment?

It's a full movie.  Well worth the watch if you have the time.  The upshot is that you will learn:

1.  There's no scientific link between dietary fat and cholesterol and heart disease.
2.  Heart disease is caused by inflammation (which leads to hardening of the arteries) and the inflammation is the result of too many carbohydrates which leads to insulin resistance and 'metabolic syndrome'.

There's a lot to it, but that's the upshot.  Basically EVERYTHING they've been telling us for 40 years came out of the Lipid Hypothesis and Congress- specifically, the “United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs”.

www.gnolls.org/1086/the-lipid-hypothesis-has-officially-failed-part-1-of-many/

Thanks to George McGovern and the “United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs” for killing millions of people via the consequences of obesity—diabetes, heart disease, depression, cancer, dementia, stroke, osteoarthritis, and a host of other totally preventable maladies.

Seriously: we let a Senate committee decide what was healthy to eat? I guess we got what we deserved.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Something worth considering:  Grain is a state project.  There isn't a single grain of any kind anywhere in the world that is sold in a free market.  Not one.

[Deleted]

Yeah, Pharma has had no impact on the lipid hypothesis at all... It's all governments doing...

I'd also like to recommend Sugar, Fat, Salt for a nice overview of corporate impact on our 'evolved' 'food' industry....

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jul 30, 2013 7:58:54 GMT -5 oped said:

Yeah, Pharma has had no impact on the lipid hypothesis at all... It's all governments doing...

I'd also like to recommend Sugar, Fat, Salt for a nice overview of corporate impact on our 'evolved' 'food' industry....

oped- the truth is that if government didn't have the power or authority to make 'research grants' you would not have the dramatically skewed pharma issues nearly to the degree we do today.  Additionally, and aside from the grants- you and I might get a chuckle out of the words "credibility of government" but the truth of the matter is that when the government says it, it is so.  Industry get cues from government decrees- I give you Enron.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jul 30, 2013 12:59:50 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

Jul 30, 2013 7:00:27 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

It's a full movie.  Well worth the watch if you have the time.  The upshot is that you will learn:

1.  There's no scientific link between dietary fat and cholesterol and heart disease.
2.  Heart disease is caused by inflammation (which leads to hardening of the arteries) and the inflammation is the result of too many carbohydrates which leads to insulin resistance and 'metabolic syndrome'.

There's a lot to it, but that's the upshot.  Basically EVERYTHING they've been telling us for 40 years came out of the Lipid Hypothesis and Congress- specifically, the “United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs”.

www.gnolls.org/1086/the-lipid-hypothesis-has-officially-failed-part-1-of-many/

I'd pretty much came to this same conclusion years ago after doing research on DH's heart condition related to diet.
He now eats very few sweets nor does he drink gallons of fruit juice AND he eats 4 of those supposedly, nasty, cholesterol-causing eggs every morning. His blood tests are looking great.

Eggs are nothing short of a miracle food.  Probably the single best food known to man- and people were taught to avoid them.

[chiver78]

Jul 29, 2013 22:38:18 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jul 29, 2013 22:14:33 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

so I've been keeping carbs to under 200 mg per day

can I ask what you are eating in a day?? produce carries a fair amount of natural carbohydrate. even the induction period of the Atkins diet allows 20g of carbohydrates per day. I think your math may be a bit off...

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AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP - in case you hadn't seen my question.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jul 31, 2013 7:42:37 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Jul 29, 2013 22:38:18 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

can I ask what you are eating in a day?? produce carries a fair amount of natural carbohydrate. even the induction period of the Atkins diet allows 20g of carbohydrates per day. I think your math may be a bit off...

sent from my electronic distraction

AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP - in case you hadn't seen my question.

I like oats for breakfast with my eggs, which is 27 grams of carbohydrate. I enjoy peanut butter and bananas as a kind of mid day snack and that's another bit of carbs there. you saw that my number is 200 grams correct?

[chiver78]

I figured you meant grams, but you say you are never wrong......so I asked.

   see my original quote.