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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 11:06:09 GMT -5
<sigh> I just got an email from the teacher that that particular behavioral report was his final strike and DS isn't going to be allowed to go on the class field trip tomorrow that he's been looking forward to for a month. He has to sit in the office and write a book report the entire day instead. Are you sure this school isn't giving your kid social issues? DS attends montessori but his school is pretty aware that kids will be kids and are somewhat gross.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 11:17:20 GMT -5
<sigh> I just got an email from the teacher that that particular behavioral report was his final strike and DS isn't going to be allowed to go on the class field trip tomorrow that he's been looking forward to for a month. He has to sit in the office and write a book report the entire day instead. Are you sure this school isn't giving your kid social issues? DS attends montessori but his school is pretty aware that kids will be kids and are somewhat gross. Sometimes I wonder! We thought about pulling him back in 3rd grade because he started having some serious self-esteem issues saying things like "He was a horrible kid that couldn't do anything right". He was getting report after report. It got to the point where there was rarely a day he didn't. 4th grade he switched to a different room/teacher and it was better (Montessori is 1st-3rd grade together and 4th-6th together). I didn't even know he had two prior reports before the belching one and they always sent them home by mail before, so I was pretty thrown off guard to hear this was his third strike. (Also really annoyed because it was one I thought was so dumb).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 11:18:42 GMT -5
Sounds like it's time to switch schools. They seem to want all the children to behave perfectly. Easier for most girls to do than boys though. Most adult males find belching and farting funny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 12:52:26 GMT -5
Parent teacher conferences are next Monday and his Dad and I agreed that we're going to bring this up. It really seems like they're being hard on him and nitpicking way too much. However, I have no idea what the other two strikes were for as those reports were never sent to me. The burping one came in the mail and they've always mailed them in the past. Honestly, I would tell them that since you never got the other reports, as far as you're concerned they don't exist, and he WILL be going on the field trip tomorrow.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 16, 2012 12:54:32 GMT -5
I'd ask your son where those reports went to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:00:44 GMT -5
Call the school and say you will move him if they leave him behind... If possible offer to go on the field trip, but in my opinion kids should not be held out of trips for reasons like this.
In fact, and given the nature of the 'transgression', I would question if it was done on purpose to keep your child back from the trip. I've seen it done by teachers unfortunately...
Im rethinking my suggestion, but still hate 5-8 public schools in general... Do you know anything about the atmosphere at the school? Any chance you could home/cyber till 9th?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:07:22 GMT -5
I'd ask your son where those reports went to. They're supposed to mail them and they need to be signed and returned within 3 days. I emailed the teacher that I knew nothing about the other two. Before they started mailing them we always got them all. He's really not about hiding reports, he's gotten so darn many of them over the years that they don't phase him much anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:10:00 GMT -5
In fact, and given the nature of the 'transgression', I would question if it was done on purpose to keep your child back from the trip. I've seen it done by teachers unfortunately...
This is what his Dad and I were thinking too. She knew he only had one strike left and gave him one for belching?? Even though he immediately apologized?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:14:52 GMT -5
Any chance you could home/cyber till 9th? I work full-time. I'd love a good excuse to quit, but probably not a wise idea.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:19:28 GMT -5
I know one thing. DS and I both have off this Thursday and Friday and I'm going to take him to that 1800's rendezvous myself. It goes on until Sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:21:08 GMT -5
There are lots of options if you ever want to discuss it seriously ... I wouldn't let the field trip thing slide though. I once got a whole elementary school to abandon a bad discipline policy when one teacher used it to target a student unfairly... I can write a very effective letter when needed... Just let me know ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:24:09 GMT -5
I remember when kids would get in trouble at school and then come home and get the belt from dad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:26:33 GMT -5
I remember when kids would get in trouble at school and then come home and get the belt from dad. How often did you get the belt?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:28:42 GMT -5
I remember when kids would get in trouble at school and then come home and get the belt from dad. How often did you get the belt? LOL. I got the wooden spoon, but not from dad, from mom.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:29:46 GMT -5
For belching and apologizing??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:34:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 13:34:27 GMT -5
There are lots of options if you ever want to discuss it seriously ... I wouldn't let the field trip thing slide though. I once got a whole elementary school to abandon a bad discipline policy when one teacher used it to target a student unfairly... I can write a very effective letter when needed... Just let me know ... I am the most non-confrontational person around. His Dad is a lot better and plans to "discuss" this at our P-T meeting Monday evening. I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't move him earlier! In addition to the public middle school. The Catholic school has a 4th-6th grade school before Jr. High.
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on Oct 16, 2012 13:58:15 GMT -5
How often did you get the belt? LOL. I got the wooden spoon, but not from dad, from mom. I know that wooden spoon too! Mom was very good about using when needed. One time, it broke while she was spanking my DSB with it. That made her really mad so out came the spatula.... I don't know what would have happened if we would have gotten down to the soup ladle or melon baller...
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 16, 2012 14:04:45 GMT -5
That teacher and that school do not sound like a good fit.
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Post by DVM gone riding on Oct 16, 2012 15:41:04 GMT -5
the one who went to public school became a lawyer.]Oh, well then we're definitely going Catholic. LOL Honestly, DS is very smart...freakishly so...but kind of a social misfit. I think he'll get eaten alive at the public school. But, then again, maybe I'm just being overprotective. Don't nec expect the catholic to be better, we have a large perstigous one near my house growing up, I knew kids from there I didn't see them as nicer and one reason to "avoid" public school is "bad" invluence and I didn't see those kids behaving better either
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 17:00:07 GMT -5
In fact, and given the nature of the 'transgression', I would question if it was done on purpose to keep your child back from the trip. I've seen it done by teachers unfortunately... DH was moved to another private school when one teacher kept picking on him. He ended up sitting next to his teacher every time they had church and the other teacher still gave him write-ups! His own teacher was new at the school and didn't feel like she could go against the other teacher, who had been there for years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 18:26:30 GMT -5
Well, I went grocery shopping after work and unbelievably ran into his teacher there. Turns out the belching wasn't strike 3 and I was missing the other two reports. It was strike one and the other two were in my mailbox when I got home. The second one was also relatively minor I thought, but the third one he did throw an all out hissy fit about not being able to use some kind of electronic device they have for writing books. He started arguing and yelling at the other students and the teacher and then crumpled up all his work he was supposed to be doing and threw it away. I know what these explosive episodes are like and I don't think his teacher could have NOT written him up for it. I could tell she felt pretty bad about it and the reports are tracked and controlled by the office, not her so she couldn't just pretend he had two. I'm not happy but at least I don't think she was picking on him. She said he's been doing great with no problems the first 5 weeks of the year, then 3 in a row (although the belching one I still think was stupid).
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Post by giramomma on Oct 16, 2012 23:54:06 GMT -5
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I was thinking about you today. Can you see if you can go in and observe classes (not just take a tour) and lunchtime at the Catholic school before you make a decision.
Our catholic school is also big into respect. (Respect is actually part of our school's motto.) I also have a 8 yo boy, who loves to burp and fart and loves to set awesome examples with the potty humor for his 5 yo sister.
Our catholic school does not have "write ups" but, for things like belching, running, talking too loud does land a kid a correction (or a talking to) by the teachers. I don't know if this is a rumor or not, but my DS told me that one day, the principal gave a boy the stink eye (and a talking to) for having hair that was getting unruly. If the behavior wasn't corrected, then likely it would be addressed with parents.
I understand that the verbal reprimands are not the same as written ones, but I don't think you'd want to put your DS in an environment where he he's still having people on his case all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2012 12:53:39 GMT -5
Can you see if you can go in and observe classes (not just take a tour) and lunchtime at the Catholic school before you make a decision.
I don't think that would be an issue. They always seem to be very accommodating when I call or email them questions.
I did send my son to a summer school math program at the Catholic school this past summer. We enrolled him in a pre-algebra series. There was no age listed by it when I filled out the registration like there was with all the other classes and they contacted me before it began concerned because apparently it was normally a 7th-8th grade course and Sam was just going into 5th. He has scored in the 97th percentile in math on the state competency exams the past couple years, so we decided to let him try and if he was struggling we'd move him to something else. He attended all four sessions and kept up fine. It was a good experience, but of course, some summer enrichment classes aren't what a normal day would be like.
Also my ex-boss is a great resource. He has 5 kids including triplet boys that are 3 years older than my son. They all attended the Montessori school and then moved to the Catholic. He moved them a little earlier because one of the trips was having behavioral issues at the Montessori and they thought he needed more structure. He said he got a "little better" when they moved him but not much and they probably should have just kept them at the Montessori until 7th. After that they needed to move for sports which they're huge into. I haven't talked to him for a while now about how they're doing and what he likes/dislikes about the Catholic school, but he loves to talk about his kids and the different schools.
I had hoped to take a tour when DS and I are off of school/work the next couple days, but apparently they have the same MEA weekend as the public schools so they aren't in session tomorrow and Friday.
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