Market on life support?

[frankq]

This market is on steroids.....

[sunrnr]

Damn,

I know exactly what decoy is saying.

Ok, seems you're blessed with one of the secret decoder rings. Could you possibly translate the following for the benefit of us all?

• Trying to make indifference between the various however they are all of the same.
• Rinse, wash and repeat, that goes from A-Z. And when a little extra detergent or bleach is needed to clean one up, why it is merely taken from another.
• Living beyond ones elementary principals of being no different than the next outside of some illicit principals (morals) and then walking around with your nose up that you are better than others.
• So we were having a little further in depth look at things that some seem not to fit into the schedule however they very much do.
• As I reflect on that I find it comical how many truly believe that abrupt and sudden MAGIC has taken play cured all, and all is fine. One thing is for sure, sudden MAGIC is in play.
• Now we reflect back to plastic hamburger stock that the number resembles that of the FOREX euro, far and beyond over-pumped. And that would go for the same as in quite a few, over-washed.
• They must have meant there a re-introduction to what has always been but by paper was broke down and separated as two different entities.
• When playing at the casino I highly doubt that there are machines that run with 'no' lights. Why even when they are off on the outside that tiny little LED is still on inside.
• The LIGHT is a GREAT thing. Some are good at bumbling around in the dark but they do not make it as long as the ones who go by the light as bumbling into things occurs oh so more often for those that choose to run in the dark.
• To me I say that is trump change so take the hit.
• Ok, now to wait and watch the Magic Rabbits hop about. They never 'really' disappear.
• Well one thing seems to be sure. Looks like the loss of money going on and getting worse real fast, that clickity-click will have to be performed to keep the thinkers thinking while ......?
• No doubt there is a drop, however I am still not afraid of ghosts.
• There is NOTHING more at this time than a plan and plans take cake in this instance. And a whole bunch of it is needed.
• And shortly up the lane with participation from such will be noted as needing a 'Change' in the guard as the guard is in a state of wake up after their long Rip Van Winkle sleep.
• Why yes, we were before this long ago, however 'none' of us were here. There may be similarities, however, while others stayed busy, others worked.
• Well out East in the same direction, that's what is known in this move as 'playing into the hand' as 3 little pigs do not need be broken down into the individuals as it is.

[texasredneck]

frankq I wonder how many people are buying EXC based on MSN MONEY's dividend report of $2.10 which is 5.81% even though it was cut by about 45% back in late Jan. or early Feb.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FLEECING!

[mmhmm]

Apr 10, 2013 11:12:45 GMT -5 bimetalaupt said:

Apr 10, 2013 11:04:50 GMT -5 damnotagain said:

You asked me a question?  Ill just send my reply via sign language next time. Lol

mmhmm,

Now this is like the old days...

DNA, You are number one..
Ok USA WON!!TOO 

expert #Where we talk the talk and Walk the walk.... [img src="http://images.proboards.com/new/shocked.gif" alt=" " src="http://images.proboards.com/new/shocked.gif"]50/50 has an answer.. bond= 50% stocks =50%

#Where we talk the talk and Walk the walk....

BiMetalAuPt..

LOL,  Bruce!  Yeah, it is a bit.  Let's just remember to keep it all in good humor from all sides.  As long as we can do that, we're golden.

[frankq]

Apr 11, 2013 9:27:38 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

frankq I wonder how many people are buying EXC based on MSN MONEY's dividend report of $2.10 which is 5.81% even though it was cut by about 45% back in late Jan. or early Feb.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FLEECING!

After checking this:

www.dividend.com/dividend-stocks/utilities/diversified-utilities/exc-exelon-corp/


Technically...according to the dividend history above (and below) , EXC is still paying the $2.10 dividend as of the last pay date. A cut was announced, but up to now has not happened.  The dividend cut, if and when it happens, will be reflected in the yield calculation (and the price) at that time. If MSN has incorrectly listed stock info, it is not the fault or the responsibility of the company in question. Remember, THE MARKET determines the stock's value. Now, keep reading young Grasshopper....

$0.525	2/14/2013	2/19/2013	3/8/2013	2/6/2013	Yes	Regular
$0.525	11/13/2012	11/15/2012	12/10/2012	10/22/2012	Yes	Regular
$0.525	8/13/2012	8/15/2012	9/10/2012	7/25/2012	Yes	Regular
$0.14575	3/13/2012	3/9/2012	4/11/2012	1/24/2012	Yes	Regular

By the way, the last entry is missing. The dividend was paid out by two separate companies as a result of the Constellation merger. Constellation made up the difference between the .14575 and the .525.

Judging by today's action, plenty of people bought EXC. How is anyone getting fleeced? So, if a company has to reduce it's dividend it means that they must be screwing someone? Do you realize that even with the dividend cut, Exelon will still be paying 3%? Would you actually buy a stock without checking at least  it's current fundamentals? Has Exelon hid anything related to the probability of cutting it's dividend?

To put that in perspective, Coca Cola pays 2.79%, Exxon pays 2.6%. Microsoft pays 3% (even after losing $1.20 or so today). 10 yr. Treasury Note 2%.
That could be why people are still buying EXC.

Smart money will buy EXC on weakness, somewhere around 10% below it's current price would be a good place to start picking away in my book. Let me know what else I can help you with.

(Disclaimer: I haven't owned EXC since early 2012 but would buy it back at the right price)

[texasredneck]

Board of directors of EXC announced dividend of 52.5 cents payable March 8 to holders of record Feb 19, 2013.

At the same time they announced the new dividend rate. So for the last 54 days the MSN stated dividend is misleading, if not illegal.

You had to own the stock on Feb 16 to receive the stated dividend listed by MSN.

Guess this is the only way to rope the SHEEPLE in.

[frankq]

Whatever you say........take it up with MSN.......let me know how MSN is profiting off of that. I answered your question as to why people are buying. They already know what's going on. That's why the stock isn't anywhere near it's highs.

Meanwhile....us SHEEPLE are making a killing.......Guess you didn't get the math....

[bimetalaupt]

Apr 11, 2013 19:47:31 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

Board of directors of EXC announced dividend of 52.5 cents payable March 8 to holders of record Feb 19, 2013.

At the same time they announced the new dividend rate. So for the last 54 days the MSN stated dividend is misleading, if not illegal.

You had to own the stock on Feb 16 to receive the stated dividend listed by MSN.

Guess this is the only way to rope the SHEEPLE in.

Texas,
 I am not sure where you are coming from...EXC profits from ongoing operation should be 2.54 for 2013.  There were some none operating losses that brought the profits down for 2012.  Dividends are $2.10.. Looks covered to me.

What did I miss

BiMetalAuPt

I do think DUK's dividend is better covered but I did not see a problem. 

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[texasredneck]

bimetalaupt The EXC board of directors at the same meeting in Feb set the dividend that anyone purchasing the stock after Feb 16 will receive at $1.32 per year. Not $2.10.

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Apr 11, 2013 19:47:31 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

Board of directors of EXC announced dividend of 52.5 cents payable March 8 to holders of record Feb 19, 2013.

At the same time they announced the new dividend rate. So for the last 54 days the MSN stated dividend is misleading, if not illegal.

You had to own the stock on Feb 16 to receive the stated dividend listed by MSN.

Guess this is the only way to rope the SHEEPLE in.

texas...no one i know buys stock from MSN

most use brokers

do you think the brokers have the right information?

msn, google, aol, yahoo

all search engines who try to provide accurate data....not necessarily so

now if you are getting the info from schwab, tdameritrade, and others through LIVE questions, i agree you would then be given false information

[texasredneck]

Just checked Schwab they also report the dividend as $2.10.

[bimetalaupt]

From stock holders report.. also if you add the numbers up I cam up with $2.85 for 2012(post merger)...or $4.16 for 2011 (pre-merger)  non-GAAP basis.. I thought that was clear..Sorry..Me Bad..There should see about $200  Million cost savings from the Merger. I quoted GAAP earnings....
The estimate are from yahoo.. I got $2.85 for the four quarters...BiMetalAuPt
 ( 0.85+00.61+0.77+0.64) = $2.85)  Again these are non-GAAP Numbers!!!
Financial Performance
Our GAAP earnings were $1.42 per diluted share in 2012, compared to $3.75 in 2011.
On an operating (non-GAAP) basis, our earnings were $2.85 per diluted share,
compared to $4.16 in 2011. 2012 earnings cannot be directly compared to 2011
earnings due to the addition of Constellation and BGE to Exelon’s financial results in
March of 2012. However, the overall decrease in non-GAAP operating earnings reflects
a year driven by challenging power prices and lower earned ROE at ComEd, only
partially offset by post-merger synergies and operational excellence. The decrease inOn an operating (non-GAAP) basis, our earnings were $2.85 per diluted share,
compared to $4.16 in 2011. 2012 earnings cannot be directly compared to 2011
GAAP earnings reflects a number of merger-related charges, including the re-valuation
of certain non-cash assets, the sale of Maryland Clean Coal, and recording certain
other merger commitments. In addition, the increased number of shares post-merger
impacted both GAAP and non-GAAP earnings.
We are experiencing the most difficult pricing environment the company has faced
since market deregulation in 1997, and our stock price remains correlated to natural
gas prices as well as overall economic conditions. Exelon’s share price on December
31, 2012, was $29.74, down 31 percent from (pre-merger) Exelon’s 2011 year-end
share price of $43.37. Both natural gas and power prices are at or near 10-year lows.
2012 day-ahead prices in the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) market
dropped 45 percent from 2011, and PJM West prices fell more than 20 percent from
the prior year. 2011-12 was the warmest winter on record, and load growth for our
utilities remained generally flat due to a slow economic recovery. All of these forces
negatively affected our stock price in 2012.

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[bimetalaupt]

reposted to make clear

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Apr 12, 2013 9:20:00 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

Just checked Schwab they also report the dividend as $2.10.

you asked a broker, and they gave that information?

i find that hard to believe

or did you just check site...which everyone STILL has what they have paid....not what will BE PAID

[bimetalaupt]

Apr 12, 2013 9:53:25 GMT -5 @gdgyva said:

Apr 12, 2013 9:20:00 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

Just checked Schwab they also report the dividend as $2.10.

you asked a broker, and they gave that information?

i find that hard to believe

or did you just check site...which everyone STILL has what they have paid....not what will BE PAID

gdgyva,

Was it clear about GAAP vs Non-GAAP accounting.. Dividends are covered with $2.85 reported income for 2012..( Non-GAAP).. Looks clear to me. 

BiMetalAuPt

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Apr 12, 2013 10:05:40 GMT -5 bimetalaupt said:

Apr 12, 2013 9:53:25 GMT -5 @gdgyva said:

you asked a broker, and they gave that information?

i find that hard to believe

or did you just check site...which everyone STILL has what they have paid....not what will BE PAID

gdgyva,

Was it clear about GAAP vs Non-GAAP accounting.. Dividends are covered with $2.85 reported income for 2012..( Non-GAAP).. Looks clear to me. 

BiMetalAuPt

i dont think any of that is the issue

i think the point from texas is he believes all sites should SHOW what the new dividend will be, not what they have been paying

i have never seen that....only after an actual NEW dividend is declared and payable, do the numbers change as far as dividend/yield on the sites

and all brokers if ASKED would give the information out.....it is not a state secret

[bimetalaupt]

Apr 12, 2013 10:11:12 GMT -5 @gdgyva said:

Apr 12, 2013 10:05:40 GMT -5 bimetalaupt said:

gdgyva,

Was it clear about GAAP vs Non-GAAP accounting.. Dividends are covered with $2.85 reported income for 2012..( Non-GAAP).. Looks clear to me. 

BiMetalAuPt

i dont think any of that is the issue

i think the point from texas is he believes all sites should SHOW what the new dividend will be, not what they have been paying

i have never seen that....only after an actual NEW dividend is declared and payable, do the numbers change as far as dividend/yield on the sites

and all brokers if ASKED would give the information out.....it is not a state secret

gdgyva,
 The point being missed is the increase in dividend was part of the merger deal.. They increased the dividend in Q2 as part of the merger deal.. I do not see a problem with that.  EXC has paid $.525 quarter from Oct 25,2011.. There was a small dividend paid to holders of both in March 2012.. EXC holders got the five dividends that equalled the  four dividends of 0.525 each quarter...

pr_20111025_EXC_StubDividend

The Board of Directors of Exelon Corporation declared a regular quarterly dividend of $0.525 per share on Exelon’s common stock.October 25, 2011|newsroom

pr_20120312_EXC_CEGDelisted

Pro-Rated Dividends to be Paid to Constellation and Exelon ShareholdersMarch 12, 2012|newsroom

BiMetalAuPt

[bimetalaupt]

2/14/2013	Cash	0.525	2/6/2013	2/19/2013	3/8/2013
11/13/2012	Cash	0.525	10/22/2012	11/15/2012	12/10/2012
8/13/2012	Cash	0.525	7/25/2012	8/15/2012	9/10/2012
5/11/2012	Cash	0.3793	3/12/2012	5/15/2012	6/8/2012
3/13/2012	Cash	0.1458	2/28/2012	3/9/2012	4/11/2012
2/13/2012	Cash	0.525	1/24/2012	2/15/2012	3/9/2012
11/10/2011	Cash	0.525	10/25/2011	11/15/2011	12/9/2011
8/11/2011	Cash	0.525	7/26/2011	8/15/2011	9/9/2011

[bimetalaupt]

I forgot to post my data source...NASDAQ

www.nasdaq.com/symbol/exc/dividend-history#.UWgsotdx2PJ

BiMetalAuPt

[texasredneck]

I went throught my burn bag to get the exact figure for the next EXC dividend.

It is .31 cents per quarter or $1.24 per year which based on the closing price of $36.18 0n April 11, 2013 is a yield of 3.427%. 

The 2nd quarter dividend was set at the same board of directors meeting as the first quarter dividend.

History of the company aside sales pitches should be based on what the buyer can expect to receive in compensation, not what the former owner received, when said compensation has been made public.

The board of directors could of course change the dividend if they wish.

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Apr 12, 2013 13:16:30 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

I went throught my burn bag to get the exact figure for the next EXC dividend.

It is .31 cents per quarter or $1.24 per year which based on the closing price of $36.18 0n April 11, 2013 is a yield of 3.427%. 

The 2nd quarter dividend was set at the same board of directors meeting as the first quarter dividend.

History of the company aside sales pitches should be based on what the buyer can expect to receive in compensation, not what the former owner received, when said compensation has been made public.

The board of directors could of course change the dividend if they wish.

i agree

do you consider a search engine to be a sales pitch?

if so, i see your point

but again, if you call and ask any broker, they will tell you the $ 1.24 information which is readily available

one of the reasons i like schwab and tdameritrade....always someone there to answer calls, and questions

[frankq]

gdgyva,

I'm thinking it's time to lighten up a bit. the run has been very good. What are you guys doing?

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my plan hasnt changed in 2 years

i add another company on occasion....but i still have only 12-13 equities in my portfolio

large cap dividend companies.....and the flight to safety has been a boon to me

[texasredneck]

I believe a search engine and a brokers web sit is a sales pitch to the novice investor.

I personally verify anything either tells me.

But I have found the Schwab brokers to be of very little help in the past.

[frankq]

I personally verify anything either tells me.

Then it's a non issue. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[bimetalaupt]

Apr 12, 2013 13:16:30 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

I went throught my burn bag to get the exact figure for the next EXC dividend.

It is .31 cents per quarter or $1.24 per year which based on the closing price of $36.18 0n April 11, 2013 is a yield of 3.427%. 

The 2nd quarter dividend was set at the same board of directors meeting as the first quarter dividend.

History of the company aside sales pitches should be based on what the buyer can expect to receive in compensation, not what the former owner received, when said compensation has been made public.

The board of directors could of course change the dividend if they wish.

No Texas   Read it again..
Two dividends paid in Q2 and they equal = $0.525....  ADD UP LINE 0.1458 (4/11/2012) AND LINE 0.3793 (6/8/2012) = $0.5251  AND 4x0.525 = $2.100 PAID IN 2012...
this information came direct from the firm and NASDAQ
DOES THIS NOT AGREE WITH YOUR MATH!!!
BiMetalAuPt

The point being missed is the increase in dividend was part of the merger deal.. They increased the dividend in Q2 as part of the merger deal.. I do not see a problem with that.  EXC has paid $.525 quarter from Oct 25,2011.. There was a small dividend paid to holders of both in March 2012.. EXC holders got the five dividends that equalled the  four dividends of 0.525 each quarter...

AS POSTED ON NASDAQ

2/14/2013	Cash	0.525	2/6/2013	2/19/2013	3/8/2013
11/13/2012	Cash	0.525	10/22/2012	11/15/2012	12/10/2012
8/13/2012	Cash	0.525	7/25/2012	8/15/2012	9/10/2012
5/11/2012	Cash	0.3793	3/12/2012	5/15/2012	6/8/2012
3/13/2012	Cash	0.1458	2/28/2012	3/9/2012	4/11/2012
2/13/2012	Cash	0.525	1/24/2012	2/15/2012	3/9/2012
11/10/2011	Cash	0.525	10/25/2011	11/15/2011	12/9/2011
8/11/2011	Cash	0.525	7/26/2011	8/15/2011	9/9/2011

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bimetal


he is having issues with the fact that msn/google/yahoo are listing the OLD dividend amount of $ 2.10 per share

the board met in February, and they will be reducing it to $ 1.24 going forward

but until the new amount is actually approved and payable, the sites still list the old $ 2.10 per share

has nothing to do with historical payouts....

[bimetalaupt]

Apr 12, 2013 15:33:49 GMT -5 @gdgyva said:

bimetal


he is having issues with the fact that msn/google/yahoo are listing the OLD dividend amount of $ 2.10 per share

the board met in February, and they will be reducing it to $ 1.24 going forward

but until the new amount is actually approved and payable, the sites still list the old $ 2.10 per share

has nothing to do with historical payouts....

gdgyva,
 The Board approved 0.525 in February.. That is why I posted the chart from NASDAQ..I have seen nothing about the change in the future.. It could be but not for the February Meeting. 
Well this should make mmhmm happy!!
BiMetalAuPt
AS POSTED ON NASDAQ

2/14/2013	Cash	0.525	2/6/2013	2/19/2013	3/8/2013
11/13/2012	Cash	0.525	10/22/2012	11/15/2012	12/10/2012
8/13/2012	Cash	0.525	7/25/2012	8/15/2012	9/10/2012
5/11/2012	Cash	0.3793	3/12/2012	5/15/2012	6/8/2012
3/13/2012	Cash	0.1458	2/28/2012	3/9/2012	4/11/2012
2/13/2012	Cash	0.525	1/24/2012	2/15/2012	3/9/2012
11/10/2011	Cash	0.525	10/25/2011	11/15/2011	12/9/2011
8/11/2011	Cash	0.525	7/26/2011	8/15/2011	9/9/2011

[texasredneck]

gdgva

We are on the same page.

My original question was how much these facts have effected the stock price, since it is up 21.7% from its lows?

I understand no one knows for sure.

[bimetalaupt]

Apr 12, 2013 16:08:17 GMT -5 texasredneck said:

gdgva

We are on the same page.

My original question was how much these facts have effected the stock price, since it is up 21.7% from its lows?

I understand no one knows for sure.

Texas
DUK and EXC both are consolidators.. With Mass they both have gained a following.  My best est is EXC will cut about $200 million a year out of the administration of both.. Or about the same as DUK did. My nuimber one power firm was TXU that was bought out and is no longer listed.  Many on this board think of power and gas as replacement for bonds.. SE is also in this class as it was Part of DUK.

Thank-you for some interesting thoughts.. I still am looking for dividend reductions.. Like EE the lower dividend means more growth.

BiMetalAuPt