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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 6, 2014 11:20:24 GMT -5
B, I hear ya. Amazing that a 3000 yr old solution is going to bring back millions of acres of farmland, organically. Talk about what the worms are worth, how about the worth they are creating? They grow a lot of grass seed and canary seed up here, I'd bet the worms would eat the rest of that as well. They are both worth some $$$$. No worries on cross contamination with the neighbors either. God bless,
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Post by bimetalaupt on Apr 8, 2014 16:09:19 GMT -5
A+++, I have to talk about water and global increase in CO2.
High Plains Part of North-West Texas sits on top of one huge Underground pure water Lake. Today much of the water is not used for the best and highest use. The five of the current six current R& plots have potatoes growing very well. Current R& from TTU indicate the increase on CO2 will only increase production and quality of the Spring planting. After we added French mild garlic to the perimeter the reduction in problems of growth is reduced.
Food production on the High Plains is closer to the Eastern Market. Just look at the value of UP Railroad to the beef industry: This industry supports the use of water to raise Alfalfa. The next generation pivot systems will support better food production with less water. Next generation drip system have made a little water grow a great grape crop on the High Plains: 181 Merlot Texas growth are worth more then the 181 California Merlot.
Did I weigh all the factors about Money and Value of Water under the Texas High Plains? California has a water problem: too use the latest systems will require a complete rebuilding. The Rio Grand Valley has Farms and Markets: now for expansion with the State of Texas development of Production like the backing the wine and Garlic product.
Just a dedicated review of the change effect in Food production, BiMetalAuPt
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Post by bimetalaupt on Apr 8, 2014 17:06:02 GMT -5
From Texas Government site: Support Texas Farmers. Trade & Business Development The Trade and Business Development Division supports the agency’s mission by administering programs that empower rural communities, encourage healthy lifestyles, protect consumers and promote production agriculture. The Division is composed of three offices: the Office of Rural Affairs, Marketing and International Trade and Grants.
The Office of Rural Affairs is dedicated to enhancing the economic vitality and quality of life in rural Texas. Taking advantage of available federal funds and a statewide outreach network, this office provides rural communities the tools needed to attract and retain businesses, expand and improve public infrastructure, and secure quality health care. The office also provides financial assistance to agricultural producers, especially young farmers and ranchers, to expand their production capabilities.
Marketing and International Trade promotes Texas agriculture, businesses and communities on the state, national and international levels. Whether they’re grown, sewn or served on a plate, the products promoted by this office find their way to more than 25 million Texans who shop, travel and dine out in support of Texas businesses and agriculture.
The Grants Office is responsible for administering numerous state and federal grants, loans and cooperative agreements available to farmers/ranchers, universities and schools, non-profits and private entities across the Lone Star State.
Please see the menus below to find information on specific programs.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 8, 2014 21:30:53 GMT -5
A+++, I have to talk about water and global increase in CO2.
High Plains Part of North-West Texas sits on top of one huge Underground pure water Lake. Today much of the water is not used for the best and highest use. The five of the current six current R& plots have potatoes growing very well. Current R& from TTU indicate the increase on CO2 will only increase production and quality of the Spring planting. After we added French mild garlic to the perimeter the reduction in problems of growth is reduced.
Food production on the High Plains is closer to the Eastern Market. Just look at the value of UP Railroad to the beef industry: This industry supports the use of water to raise Alfalfa. The next generation pivot systems will support better food production with less water. Next generation drip system have made a little water grow a great grape crop on the High Plains: 181 Merlot Texas growth are worth more then the 181 California Merlot.
Did I weigh all the factors about Money and Value of Water under the Texas High Plains? California has a water problem: too use the latest systems will require a complete rebuilding. The Rio Grand Valley has Farms and Markets: now for expansion with the State of Texas development of Production like the backing the wine and Garlic product.
Just a dedicated review of the change effect in Food production, BiMetalAuPt Bruce, Too funny, I have been thinking about where the best place to post this was... Scare Tactics Fail Climate Scientists, and Everyone ElseWhat do you mean plants live off CO2? I would say that is a very thorough analysis of the way we can use water more efficiently through technology. I would also say that once TX has the system set up, there will be money made showing the far left how to actually produce food in an efficient manner.. I was going to start a new thread about the current state of food production, but since we have dived into here when I get the time I will just post it on this thread... From the other info you posted, it sounds like pulling all those pipes out of the ground and sealing off wells will be worth it. Especially if there are e126s in the fields to help power pivots and drip systems. Talk about a deceleration of independence!!!
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 8, 2014 21:34:52 GMT -5
Haha.. I just clicked the link to make sure it worked..and they have taken it down!!! I guess we are still supposed to be in denial about how much BS these climate "scientists" put out there!
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 12, 2014 1:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 17, 2014 21:40:24 GMT -5
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Post by bimetalaupt on Apr 19, 2014 0:38:50 GMT -5
Dr.A+++, We are working on an organics system to accelerate the productivity growth to greater then original state by unsupportable bolus introductions of oil eating bacteria, NKP , E. Hortenses Carbon base, air and micro elements (Fe,Cu,Zn< ETC>). They just run out of oil but water is adsormed by the organic like worm poop: the now energised organic material makes more potatoes. Out goal is not only to desideratum the oil sand to orginal status but increase organic assets for full production of high food concentration rich potatoes. It is all about the power of the worms....desideratum sustantivo integrity was a desideratum requirement, prerequisite, need, indispensable thing, desired thing, needed thing, essential, requisite, necessary; lack, want, missing thing; dream, ideal, hope, wish; Latin sine qua non Just a thought about desideratum integrity for the future farmers and associated advocates. BiMetalAuPt
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Apr 19, 2014 15:29:06 GMT -5
I've got a way to go before I'm a Dr., Dr. L! . Just think how much China will pay by the hour to have someone come in and help them restore all that land? Especially when it's left in the best shape it's been in for decades, at least. So aside from food and energy, we have another reason as to why China needs the west in a big way. Must be why China is actually working with the US military, even though the news media likes to sell papers based on Sino-American war. I guess that means Pax globa starts with the Sino-American century, eh?
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 22, 2014 11:20:56 GMT -5
Bruce, More work for your worms! Think there is something we can get going here?? Keep up the amazing work. The future thanks you!
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 22, 2014 15:28:32 GMT -5
All these countries embraced American Industry. These are the same ones that left partly because of our laws against contaminating the land and water, they ran rampant in all these 3rd world countries. Now places like China are realizing they can't let it continue and are also starting to pass laws but in the interim they have places that are unlivable and the water cannot be used because of it. Maybe someday, sooner then we think, industry will realize without taking care of these resources people will have nowhere to live and therefor them no customers. Actual environmental laws are starting to be taken seriously all over the world.
And yes food waste is horrible. Most of those countries have no way to distribute it once its there plus warlords or those in power take our gifts of food and sell them on the black market. There is food, just can't get to the intended. Pat, It looks like China purchase of Natural Gas is in Part to reduce the use of Coal burning and production of Ammonium for food production. I know it takes my EH (composing worm) 24 months to 100% compose paper and leaf litter: it takes at least two years for EH for total remediation of oil sand. To get to that target: we use 400% of the "C" per acre then is stated in the documents. China has a long road ahead of itself. Power to the Worm: we did get about 100% more GREEN TOP potatoes growth in our six month Worm Grocery Bag Orange Peel Compose study.
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 23, 2014 7:06:15 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 24, 2014 0:21:54 GMT -5
Pat, these companies have done what these crooked ass govts have let them do. That's the problem with the whole conversation. As you pointed out things are slowly getting better here because we the people have been demanding a change. Most of the people on the planet don't have a voice, and that is changing because of the internet.(American business) Dr L, Great article! What a concept hey? The co2 isn't actually bad, it is actually good, and can be used to make the world a better place!! I'm amazed at how much work is being done in the natural substitute field as well. Supply and demand at its finest. We can't keep using oil for everything... The ironic thing about China is that side the 13th century they have had the idea that doing what's best for the state trumps what is best for the individual. They are going to have to pay dearly for holding onto their medieval ways, and I'm happy that our families will be able to make money off their short slighted veiw. God bless and have a good weekend,
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 27, 2014 14:09:26 GMT -5
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 27, 2014 17:11:09 GMT -5
What is new at Worm Valley? Well I have been reading about water storage in the ground so have added a small " Sensitive Water Recharge Test Pit" to a a series of water collection basins by way of two small channels. I added 1.25 lbs to the recharge test pit of Scott's 24-8-16 plant food. Then it rained. This should start the bacteria needed to eat up the oil. Just to be sure I then finished five Home Depot buckets with oil sand, paper bags and boxes hand ripped , water with Scott's 24-8-16 plant food, corn meal, orange peals, Leaf Litter and the Tiger Worms (E.Hortensis). They should be happy worms; all wet and well feed. If it was not for Scott's this would be organic. With a little time the Alfalfa we planted in the peat pots will send the roots down to the lower sand level that should hold the water from the pit. Good theory. Our MEOR demonstration keeps growing. My son told my browth , if dad's plot does not work the first time then double the organic material. I am at 400% of target Peat moss at this point in time. Failure is not an option. Well, The Potatoes are growing fast. Today is my 69th Birthday. See, that makes me 19. Just a thought, BiMetalAuPt
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 27, 2014 17:30:45 GMT -5
When I was at UT-Austin I had a friend that was part of a co-op then grew an annual garden using Natural system that one of the member learned in Africa; thought by a Peace Corr Agriculturist from Tuskegee University. The were associated with Black Farmers of America ( Now know as BFAAA). I gave them produce cutting and bad potatoes from Big Bear Food that they used in the worm pits to produce worm Compost for the spinach, Garlic, Potatoes and Watermelon crops. The called it natural because the original plants were mostly farming products from the Rio Grand Valley. They had two plots together that was less then one acre. I never did see the plot but they only had hand tools: Cheaper then a gym. After I graduated from Pharmacy school I lost all contacts with them and Big Bear food. ( Dec 1972) Just a thought, BiMetalAuPt
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 28, 2014 19:39:12 GMT -5
Pat, The idea is to make the land better to produce better quality food. The added benefit, the amount of water needed to produce food goes down the better the soil is. There is tons of arable land out there that can be regenerated and made into food producing land. I could post some charts that show how food costs are at an all time low compared to income, including how obesity goes up as food costs come down, but since the most current data is only til about 2012, I won't bother because I'm sure that you will try and say food costs have "soared" since then. The fact is that the US pays less for food than anywhere else in the world, just Google it. There is also this study.. America's Obesity Crisis Is Ending — As Long As You're Not PoorSo while over the last few years wages haven't outpaced food costs(worst crisis since the depression of the 1930's) the fact is that food costs have been declining compared to income since at least the 1950's. Bottom line, unless you want the rest of the world to go back to starving so we can enjoy continued falling food prices, food won't go down very much from the price it's at right now. This is why land regeneration is vital to the future of food production, it's a way to keep the balance. We'll, that and the third world needs to get a handle on their food waste/distribution problem.
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 28, 2014 23:40:28 GMT -5
Pat, The idea is to make the land better to produce better quality food. The added benefit, the amount of water needed to produce food goes down the better the soil is. There is tons of arable land out there that can be regenerated and made into food producing land. I could post some charts that show how food costs are at an all time low compared to income, including how obesity goes up as food costs come down, but since the most current data is only til about 2012, I won't bother because I'm sure that you will try and say food costs have "soared" since then. The fact is that the US pays less for food than anywhere else in the world, just Google it. There is also this study.. America's Obesity Crisis Is Ending — As Long As You're Not PoorSo while over the last few years wages haven't outpaced food costs(worst crisis since the depression of the 1930's) the fact is that food costs have been declining compared to income since at least the 1950's. Bottom line, unless you want the rest of the world to go back to starving so we can enjoy continued falling food prices, food won't go down very much from the price it's at right now. This is why land regeneration is vital to the future of food production, it's a way to keep the balance. We'll, that and the third world needs to get a handle on their food waste/distribution problem. A++++, Food cost at the point of delivery has an increases percentage of cost like trucking and rail roads. Working the cost out it makes sense to grown locally like in the downturn. Local food also is more about improving health through better land management and less chemicals.
Just a thought, BiMetalAuPt
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 28, 2014 23:50:03 GMT -5
, Exactly! Same concept as to why manufacturing is finding it's way back to the west. Great point ! There is also a cattle shortage due to lack of hay(something we can help with) and according to the news a swine flu has pushed pork prices up. These are temporary issues that will correct due to the classic supply and demand business model. God bless,
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Post by tyfighter3 on May 29, 2014 20:25:39 GMT -5
The Cow numbers are where they where in 1952. Drought in the west over the last few years have really put a dent in them. Plus a 1000 pound cow is bringing $1000 at slaughter prices where 10 years ago where only bringing $300. It's going to be years before we can get the Cow numbers back up where they should be just because when a exsisting cow has a calf and you save it for breeding it will still be around 3 years before it has a calf.So it could be years before we see cheap meat prices at the store again.
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 29, 2014 20:56:11 GMT -5
Your kidding yourselves. It doesn't matter how cheap the farmer sells cattle at market, the industry down the line will never lower beef, pork, or chicken prices again. They never go anywhere but up, the market at the bottom no longer has much to do with it. All the market will bear and then some is the mantra today. Pat, Look at the numbers for processing of food; The raise in Minimum wages to $15 will cost the consumer money. Most of the procures in the Texas Valley pay exactly that: minimum wages. Now add the shipping and distribution cost!! I am not sure about your taste but home grown (local) saves a $$$$ in shipping and distribution cost; buy from the farmer. This is like some of the very large coops in the Texas Milk industry; Cheese at the farm!
It is all about cost
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 29, 2014 21:44:52 GMT -5
Pat, I hear you : Organic compost is all about improving the soil. The fact that organic composting will increase production during droughts is a major reason for the expense.
Just a thought, BiMetalAuPt
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 30, 2014 0:31:15 GMT -5
Dr L, Have you thought about using liquid seaweed fertilizers instead of Scotts? What about some kind of algae based fertilizer? All organic. Looking at the charts over the last 10 years beef is up about 89%. Lots of that over the last few years because of drought. So yes, having organic soil would have helped with everything across the board. God bless The Cow numbers are where they where in 1952. Drought in the west over the last few years have really put a dent in them. Plus a 1000 pound cow is bringing $1000 at slaughter prices where 10 years ago where only bringing $300. It's going to be years before we can get the Cow numbers back up where they should be just because when a exsisting cow has a calf and you save it for breeding it will still be around 3 years before it has a calf.So it could be years before we see cheap meat prices at the store again. Ty, Exactly. I don't think it will go as low as $300, but it will level out like it has many times in the past. I mean having wholesale cost triple over 10 years has nothing to do with retail costs.. Got to luv data! www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/meat-price-spreads.aspx#.U4gTHRLnYsI
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 30, 2014 10:33:34 GMT -5
Your kidding yourselves. It doesn't matter how cheap the farmer sells cattle at market, the industry down the line will never lower beef, pork, or chicken prices again. They never go anywhere but up, the market at the bottom no longer has much to do with it. All the market will bear and then some is the mantra today. Pat, I get that you're anti corporate, but blatantly lying to try and prove your point is just wrong. Once the heard starts going up in numbers, prices will come down/stabilize for years, it's supply and demand, simple as that. There is also a massive swine flu going around that is knocking off tons of pigglets, which is causing pork prices to go up. Again a simple supply and demand problem. Fruits and veggies? Major drought in California, supply is down. In other words, it is you that is fooling yourself, mam'. Also, you obviously haven't been reading and/or understand what Bruce and I are talking about here. Anyone can start a worm farm. You can create top notch compost soil in your own garden that will help yeild and protect against drought. If you want to step it up a notch and help subsidize your income, you can make enough to start selling it to the local farmers you are buying from. Soil regeneration/remediation is the next step up from the basic worm farm. Like how millions of acres of land around the world can be reclaimed to help produce more, better quality food for the growing population. My Grandpa used to tell me all the stuff he could buy at the store for a nickel, of course his family used to only make a couple dimes. If the US wasn't recovering from a massive finicial crisis I would be willing to bet that these "skyrocketing" food prices would essentially be a non issue.
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Post by tyfighter3 on May 30, 2014 10:34:55 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on May 30, 2014 12:34:49 GMT -5
Pat, even if you don't need the compost, I'll bet others would still buy it/trade for food they are producing. Solution. Again, the supply is down for beef, pork, veggies, and demand is up so prices are up. The chart I posted is current, and so is the link from last night. You can ignore all the data you want, but just because you say so doesn't make supply and demand null and void. Receiving less by weigh for the same price is a form of inflation, I agree. However, the majority of that would be processed food. You can't reduce how much fresh produce weighs. The cost of production is one angle of food production, there is also transport. Also, automated food production is processed food, farms are a long way off from being automated. I'm glad you brought up the 60's and 70's... So yes, wages from the 60's and 70's would be a good measure. If you want to focus on the bottom 20% of income earners you are free to do so. However, when low income people are obese I have a hard time having a bleeding heart for their food bills.
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 30, 2014 17:08:40 GMT -5
I have good rich soil, in Texas what you are doing would have helped but that won't come cheap either. Here I don't have to augment, of course, being on the side of a hill and the farmer really fertilizing the field above me is probably giving me plenty. My yard is growing like crazy, so I think I get help!!
In the past you are right demand and supply worked, but not so much anymore. Boxes are staying the same size, contents are less, and everytime I buy something there is less in it for the same or more money. Tell me how they on all products are saving me money. And the systems producing this stuff is already automated so very little effect from wages.
And my dad in the 60's and 70's made way more money then many people do now, so that's not always a good measure.
Pat, Few of the loans made by the Texas Farmers Credit banks have defaulted. They are lending money and producing a far return on equity. The average farmer makes less then many Teachers in Detroit. The average farmer I know works from 60 to 70 hours a week. Yes, they have to milk those cows 365 days a year.
Their personal wealth is on the line vs. the Bankers risking FDIC's money.
Just a thought, BiMetalAuPt
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Post by bimetalaupt on May 30, 2014 18:37:44 GMT -5
The farmers up here are all grain farmers and they are takin' it to the bank the last few years. Buying land, massive equipment, and building awesome houses. They are really cleaning up. Pat,
These are know as value added farms, they make the most money. The high Texas plain is also know for grain production as well as alfalfa and potatoes. I will match my Golden Yukon potatoes to anyone. We used to have a potato farm on the sands of Long Island.
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Post by bimetalaupt on Jun 4, 2014 8:43:30 GMT -5
How Worms Help Your Soil TURN ON IMAGES Worms Provide Nutrients and Improve Soil Structure Worms chow down on plant debris like dead roots, leaves, dead vegetable matter, grasses, manure, and soil. That diet works through their digestive system and then they excrete granular dark worm castings, or worm poop . The castings are a mixture of substances, microorganisms, and soil. In the end, this worm waste is an excellent fertilizer, full of nutrients that are great for the soil. One of these crucial nutrients is nitrogen. Nitrogen is perhaps the most important element for plants. It helps prevent deficiency and is responsible giving plants that lush green color we all enjoy looking at. And, when there are plants growing, soil remains healthy since it decreases erosion. Now, back to worms. Slime, which is just a secretion of earthworms, also contains nitrogen. As worms make tunnels in the soil, this slime helps to hold clusters of soil particles together to form particles aggregates. These water-stable aggregates are amazing for topsoil. Research has found that worms can not only improve soil, but can also increase topsoil. Topsoil is very important for crops. We recommend releasing our Super Red Worms into your soil to aerate and fertilize the soil directly. Our Red Wigglers are best for compost bins. Other ways worms help the soil (click the link to read more): •Improves drainage •Increases productivity
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Post by tyfighter3 on Jun 4, 2014 10:22:50 GMT -5
Everytime worms come up, I've been craving to go Fishing. LOL
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