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Post by billisonboard on Feb 9, 2012 20:53:37 GMT -5
Sure, they are easy for an eight year old. But will he still be able to answer them correctly once the hormones kick in? This boy's hormones kicked in at the age of 5. It's really has us worried. Is this normal with boys? No. It is extremely rare for a boy to experience hormonal changes that early in life. He should be seeing medical professionals to deal with this. A boy whose body is becoming that of adult at age five should have you worried.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 9, 2012 21:12:09 GMT -5
No. It is extremely rare for a boy to experience hormonal changes that early in life. He should be seeing medical professionals to deal with this. A boy whose body is becoming that of adult at age five should have you worried. I don't think it's anything physical, it's just that he's been commenting on girls (long-haired blondes especially) for years. No hormones kicking in is physical. You are talking about a kid who has been taught sexuality long before there is a physical cause.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 9, 2012 21:56:00 GMT -5
No hormones kicking in is physical. You are talking about a kid who has been taught sexuality long before there is a physical cause. My goodness! NO NOTHING like that has ever gone on with this boy. He hasn't even been allowed to watch anything on television, unless it's been pre-approved and G rated. He has just always been attacted to girls...wanting to sit next to them and talk to them. okay
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Post by Don Perignon on Feb 9, 2012 22:05:58 GMT -5
Things weren't so loose and undisciplined when I was a youth. For example, if one of us kids forgot to close the door, dear parents would holler: "What's the matter with you? Don't you know any better? Were you raised by wolves?!" (real story)
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 10, 2012 8:43:43 GMT -5
Even if we were to remove these children from their parents "care" at age 5 and put them in a boarding school away from their lousy home environment, we can't fix the damage done in the first 5 years. But it'd sure be an improvement on what we do now. In one generation, we could do away with welfare and a lot of crime.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Feb 10, 2012 11:41:41 GMT -5
That’s not to say, though, that there aren’t good teachers. But there’s obviously a failure somewhere. ------------------------- Ya think?? When I was living there, I found myself arguing with college kids who insisted that Rome was the capital of Romania, and that the US shares a border with only one other country. Roflmao, I am sorry you had to live through that frustration.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Feb 11, 2012 0:10:52 GMT -5
Our schools are not doing well. The problem is comprehensive. Districts waste a ton of money on bad teachers, bad administrators, bad policies, fraud and waste. Also, there is a break down on the student/parent dynamic. Parents are not as involved as they should be (in my personal experience) Kids are not getting the support and early education they should be getting from their own parents.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 11:02:19 GMT -5
Apparently a good chunk of local 5 year olds are showing up at kindergarten not knowing how to hold a book, or what way you turn the pages. That's a failure by the parents. I don't care how poor you are - it's fairly easy to read a book to a kid.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 11, 2012 11:08:52 GMT -5
Apparently a good chunk of local 5 year olds are showing up at kindergarten not knowing how to hold a book, or what way you turn the pages. That's a failure by the parents. I don't care how poor you are - it's fairly easy to read a book to a kid. i STILL read to my son. every night. he turns 12 in 2 months.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 11, 2012 11:15:14 GMT -5
Even if we were to remove these children from their parents "care" at age 5 and put them in a boarding school away from their lousy home environment, we can't fix the damage done in the first 5 years. But it'd sure be an improvement on what we do now. In one generation, we could do away with welfare and a lot of crime. With so many of these kids it's those first years that will make or break them. It's almost like if they don't bond and get what they need from their mother in the very beginning, they will be messed up and broken for life. Some of the best foster parents I've known were unable to help a broken child. and sometimes, it has nothing to do with parenting. for example, it was once believed that inability to bond to the mother was responsible for autism. that is totally false. it has to do with how the brain is organized, and has nothing to do with parenting whatsoever. there is a nature/nurture balance at play here. some things we can, as parents, help. others we can't. we shouldn't blame ourselves for not doing everything. doing nothing is another matter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 11:23:17 GMT -5
i STILL read to my son. every night. he turns 12 in 2 months.
I had a third grade teacher, "Mrs. Goddard" who would read to us for an hour every day. It was the only good thing I remember about scho
I love reading to DS. It opens up so many topics of conversation and realistically each book doesn't take that long. My fifth grade teacher would reach us a part of a book every day - I remember her reading "Homecoming" to us. It's still one of my favorite books.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 11, 2012 11:41:31 GMT -5
I understand the nature/nurture debate. However, from what I've seen nurture seems to play a bigger part. Mothers who make poor choices in how they raise their children should be blamed. of course. but it might not have anything to do with the problems the children have. and it might have a lot to do with it. it really depends on the kid.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 11, 2012 11:42:39 GMT -5
Our schools are not doing well. The problem is comprehensive. Districts waste a ton of money on bad teachers, bad administrators, bad policies, fraud and waste. Also, there is a break down on the student/parent dynamic. Parents are not as involved as they should be (in my personal experience) Kids are not getting the support and early education they should be getting from their own parents. Yes! My siblings and I got no educational support from our parents. I was placed in kindergarten at too early an age and I struggled and finally gave up before I was 8. But how do parents, like those who can't even speak English, help their children? most of the hispanic parents i know are very very enthusiastic about their kids learning English, and recognize the value of it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 12:15:34 GMT -5
most of the hispanic parents i know are very very enthusiastic about their kids learning English, and recognize the value of it. Wanting your kids to learn something and effectively facilitating it are two different things. I think that some parents are limited by their social circles - they may not know what young children are capable of or what other kids are already accomplishing. They think their kids are doing fine because their keeping up with their peers, which unfortunately may not be good enough. A friend of mine lives in a predominantly hispanic neighborhood. The school district asks that all the kids be able to count to 20 when they enter kindergarten. Talk about setting the bar so low a grasshopper could jump over it. In my circle of mommy friends all of the kids could count to 20 by the time they turned three and a good chunk of them know the alphabet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 12:26:49 GMT -5
I have a friend who received her MA (equivalent of) in teaching second languages from her native country, Argentina. She went to teach ESL in east San Jose and was so disheartened by all the students she was encountering who were functionally illiterate in both English and Spanish even though they had already reached high school. For some reason I was surprised - I'd just assumed that all the kids I met who were struggling in English were at least able to write and read in their original language.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 11, 2012 12:38:52 GMT -5
My parents couldn't speak English. My father finished grade 4 and my mother never went to school at all. No homework help there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2012 12:55:30 GMT -5
Were you able to get help elsewhere? My guardians didn't help me with school past the fourth grade because they didn't know enough - and they spoke english!
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 11, 2012 13:13:59 GMT -5
Were you able to get help elsewhere? My guardians didn't help me with school past the fourth grade because they didn't know enough - and they spoke english! No, there was no help available, to my knowledge. There could have been I suppose, but we didn't know about it because we didn't speak the language. It was a different world back then, when even the teachers used to make fun of you. (I assumed they did. The teacher would point at me and all the kids would laugh) I taught myself to read English by grabbing a book and underlining all the words I was familiar with. The. And. Cat. With. Hot.
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