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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 14:55:20 GMT -5
Better yet,why ask! As your slander is most entertaining so simply push a bit more,we love it! I haven't "slandered" anyone or anything. I've typed everything. ;D I only used those FACTS that YOU presented ... I simply presented them in what I SEE as a more truthful manner. Do you have a problem with others SEEING your data differently than you purport it to be? The FACTS are the FACTS as you say ... once you strip away the layers of personal opinion and misinterpretation, the TRUTH reveals itself. |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 15:02:51 GMT -5
Oh,and what is your guesstamate as to the job ratio as 100/1 is not feasable with you. My "guesstamate" of the US AVERAGE of Applicants for every 1 job opening is a LOT LESS than 100/1. But that's not the issue. The initial conversation wasn't about MY estimate ... it was about YOURS and where you came up with that number. You still haven't presented any proof of that which you insist is FACT. Your side was the 100/1 average was a FACT ... my position was that it is NOT a fact ... I proved my side by disproving yours using your data. |
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Post by rovo on Jan 11, 2012 15:03:46 GMT -5
It is becoming more and more obvious that someone needs to be put back in his cage. Stick to the topic and quit insulting people.
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 15:15:33 GMT -5
Opps and old steady forgot to include the ENTIRE YEAR OF 2011 and the LOSSES in jobs. ... the recent is just for the past few weeks as in LESS than a month. I don't get the relevance of the above statement. I didn't "forget" anything. You presented the numbers of job losses in this thread as being lost in the last month, and compared it to the number of hires reported in the last month. I went through the thread and only saw job loss numbers (that you referenced) referring to 2012 and 2013. Nowhere did I SEE you quoting job losses for 2011. But if I missed those losses from December14, 2011 through today, I apologize. I meant no disrespect for the folks that lost their jobs during that period. My name is NOT "sport" or "Detour".  You can, however, refer to me as "steady'. |
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Post by decoy409 on Jan 11, 2012 15:17:57 GMT -5
And it has become more than obvious that I will not indulge in senseless debate. 'My' number stands and my position on that number,as well as the information in which I have presented. You have nor proved or disproved anything. Job losses continue and will do so. The so called workers returning to the force is nill at best for that in which is and has been needed for several years. Have a great thread!  Decoy409 |
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Post by Driftr on Jan 11, 2012 15:22:52 GMT -5
I haven't "slandered" anyone or anything. I've typed everything. ;D What if the person reading what you wrote is in the habit of reading aloud to themselves?  |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 15:24:43 GMT -5
It is becoming more and more obvious that someone needs to be put back in his cage. Stick to the topic and quit insulting people. rovo -- Moderator Sorry, rovo, for any part I may have inadvertently played in triggering decoy.  He prints some "interesting" information and I was just trying to understand where and how he arrives at his FACTS and CONCLUSIONS. He repeatedly professes for us folks to ASK, so I asked. The answers didn't resolve the question, and the information provided didn't add up, so I asked some more. Maybe I should have stopped. Have a great day and a better year ... I really do hope that one day we right this ship. (referring to the economy, our Nation, and the world in general). ;D |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 15:26:44 GMT -5
I haven't "slandered" anyone or anything. I've typed everything. ;D What if the person reading what you wrote is in the habit of reading aloud to themselves? Could be they are then slandering themselves. IDK ....... HAHAHAHAHA |
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Post by Driftr on Jan 11, 2012 15:28:48 GMT -5
karma on back order ...... HAHAHAHAHA Delivered. As Britany would say...Oops I did it again. |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 15:35:57 GMT -5
And it has become more than obvious that I will not indulge in senseless debate. Decoy409 So now me and my thoughts are "senseless"?  Good Grief |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 11, 2012 15:40:15 GMT -5
As Britany would say...Oops I did it again. HAHAHAHAHA ..... back atcha ;D |
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Post by jarhead1976 on Jan 11, 2012 16:47:53 GMT -5
Some Interesting new's! In early December, Rubbermaid Home Products announced the closing of its manufacturing plant in Greenville, Texas, which will take effect this June. An estimated 490 employees will lose their jobs. Several years ago, Rubbermaid closed its big molding plant in Wooster, Ohio, and moved some of its production to the Greenville plant. Now, those jobs will be lost as well. This has become a recurrent story over the past decade. From 2001 through 2010, we lost one-third of our U.S. manufacturing base - that's 5 and a half million U.S. jobs that were shipped overseas, outsourced or simply went away. Moreover, the Wall Street Journal reported that, from 2000 to 2009, U.S.-based multinational companies (which account for 20 percent of private-sector employment in the United States) eliminated 2.9 million jobs in the U.S. while creating 2.4 million jobs in other countries. As Austin businessman David Hartman has noted, the U.S. manufacturing trade deficit in goods totaled $5.4 trillion from 2000 to 2008. This past year the U.S. ran trade deficits with nearly 100 nations. The late German economist, Dr. Kurt Richebacher, pointed out the devastating consequences of what we are doing to ourselves economically: "Essentially all (U.S.) job losses are high-wage manufacturing, and most gains are in low-wage services. In essence the U.S. economy is restructuring downward, while the Chinese economy is restructuring up. www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/We-must-stop-the-flow-of-manufacturing-jobs-from-2446783.php |
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Post by usaone on Jan 11, 2012 17:00:36 GMT -5
The days of Americans working in a manufacturing plant on an assembly line are almost over.
In my mind that is a good thing.
Automation and Technology is the future.
Americans, years ago, for the most part worked on the farm.
Technology did away with all those jobs.
Then came manufacturing. Again Technology is doing away with most of those jobs.
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Post by usaone on Jan 11, 2012 17:03:10 GMT -5
So now that we dont have to work in a dingy, monotonous job putting widgets together whats next?
I would think Health Care.
Extending human life as long as possible.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jan 11, 2012 23:08:42 GMT -5
So taking into account AMERICAN JOBS lost since the start of this thread (Dec. 14,2011 less than a month ago) the total is roughly 61,000 lost jobs. And we have to keep in mind that this is just a calculated percentage with the information made available from this thread. And MOST of those 61,000 jobs are still in the works or "planned" to be cut over the SPAN of this year (2012) AND next year (2013) ... only a small percentage of those 61,000 have ACTUALLY been REPORTED as lost in the past month. Compared to to the 200,000 NET hirings for the last month. (Net meaning that the losses are already calculated into the 200,000 figure). You're comparing MULTI-YEAR PROJECTED losses to ONE MONTH of AFTER THE FACT job additions. A feeble comparison at best. Your argument is full of holes. You're not using FACTS ... you're mis-representing the data This sums up exactly what I see has gone on here, with a peppering of personal attacks. That's an interesting article Jar. Lets see how many outsourced jobs Obama will save here this election year. If by 2020 there haven't been 3-5 million jobs in manufacturing created here to go with the 600k skilled positions that are currently available, then I will believe that manufacturing is gone forever. USAWON, IMO, we need MORE tech in the fields, people on here report that fields go under because there is no one to pick them. Food production could ea sly tripple as robotic come on line. More jobs there too. |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jan 11, 2012 23:10:56 GMT -5
Oh ya k for Steady, then Driftr.  |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Jan 12, 2012 15:07:46 GMT -5
Oh ya k for Steady, then Driftr. thanks AHB ;D |
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Post by decoy409 on Feb 7, 2012 13:31:52 GMT -5
Not bad.  1.4 MILLION without jobs for the month of January 2012 and preceeding months speak of the same type drops. And to date from daily job cuts,why another great month is shaping up quickly with losses. Imagine that. Shadowstats puts out the unseen and the shovel players come out and bury such as relevant. |
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Post by decoy409 on Apr 6, 2012 10:49:40 GMT -5
Jan. 11,2012 - entry #95 And it has become more than obvious that I will not indulge in senseless debate. 'My' number stands and my position on that number,as well as the information in which I have presented. You have nor proved or disproved anything. Job losses continue and will do so. The so called workers returning to the force is nill at best for that in which is and has been needed for several years. Have a great thread! Decoy409 (end) Why this post should not be burried. After all,things are coming together even for the hardest of skeptics and deniers, OPPS! Looks like the 'jumboed numbers' are catching up and will need tunning up. CORRECTED @ 11:29am April 6,2012 - U.S. economy gains 120,000 jobs in March www.marketwatch.com/story/us-economy-gains-120000-jobs-in-march-2012-04-06?link=MW_pulseWe find it hard to believe yet believeable that so many simply have found themselfs stuck in conventional thinking on Fantasy Island. But that's ok! As there is yet time to wake up. 200,000 plus 'Losing' their jobs in the retail sector as we covered,along with another 500,000 plus coming on outside of that sector. 9 million (which in actual is over the 20 mil. mark in foreclosure),and when the apples that come forth speaking nonsense,well ya best get with the BIG Picture. We just covered the millions in Orange Co. alone and the new number reflecting cross town is 9 mil? That's FUNNY! 20 mil. plus is a low ball number. And you will be SEEING if you don't already. Of course riples and reflections of that mass amount of lost workers is ringing the old pinball rails and DING!,DING!,DING! racking up points going for HIGH SCORE! The next (QE4) getting warmed up? Not so fast as FIRST there is other business to tend to what we call DETOUR. Conventional thinking? Just like last time? We have been through this before? 8 out of 10 have NEVER been through what awaits. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- April 7,2012 So where did the trio go? After all,they did defend and do defend that the position is of that in which big time numbers in the old job employment dept. keep getting better? |
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Post by stayput on Apr 15, 2012 2:18:06 GMT -5
You'll nary find a more contentious issue. Decoy is permitted to post here as part of an agreement re civility. I'm just guessing he's going to take the "going" side of the argument. I believe in standing by my convictions when asked to vote on a subject matter. Therefore, I have no choice but to cast my Obama vote. Err, I mean Present. ;D |
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Post by Steady As She Goes on Aug 7, 2012 15:04:48 GMT -5
And by the way those of you that dident like the odds we put out for you back when we called the cross the board number of 1/100 in employment arena. What ever became of you? Aug. 3,2012 - GE job posting closes after 10,000 applications received www.bizjournals.com/louisville/blog/morning_call/2012/08/ge-job-posting-closes-after-10000.htmlLet's SEE (according to the numbers given) and in Sept. hiring should start. Supposebly 1,000 jobs offered. $13.00 per hr. 10,000 applicants. According to "MY" math (and probably everyone else's math on the planet) ... 10,000 applicants per 1,000 job openings (as YOU so eloquently pointed out above) works out to be 10 applicants per 1 job opening. Why? What does YOUR math say?  Uhh ... 10/1  |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 8, 2012 1:39:28 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 8, 2012 22:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 9, 2012 23:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by clubv on Aug 10, 2012 8:48:09 GMT -5
US jobs coming or going? Wow you are making this easy. GOING. Care to debate based on reality anyone?
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 12, 2012 1:58:17 GMT -5
No doubt Club V... And by the way those of you that dident like the odds we put out for you back when we called the cross the board number of 1/100 in employment arena. What ever became of you? Aug. 3,2012 - GE job posting closes after 10,000 applications received www.bizjournals.com/louisville/blog/morning_call/2012/08/ge-job-posting-closes-after-10000.htmlLet's SEE (according to the numbers given) and in Sept. hiring should start. Supposebly 1,000 jobs offered. $13.00 per hr. 10,000 applicants. According to "MY" math (and probably everyone else's math on the planet) ... 10,000 applicants per 1,000 job openings (as YOU so eloquently pointed out above) works out to be 10 applicants per 1 job opening. Why? What does YOUR math say? Uhh ... 10/1 ;D |
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Aug 17, 2012 23:58:34 GMT -5
No respect eh Steady? |
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Post by sunrnr on Oct 31, 2012 18:27:00 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Nov 1, 2012 0:45:39 GMT -5
 Sun! Mind if I steal that article for the jobs section of this site? "Your talent is God's gifts to you. What you do with it is your gift to God" - Unknown Awesome!
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Post by decoy409 on Nov 1, 2012 4:42:13 GMT -5
Deleted by me Decoy409,not worth the time SEE today's POST.
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