Hanoi Jane and John Kerry should be happy

[steff]

There are many many countries, around the world, that are not christian nations or christian friendly. And they don't have to be if they don't want to. It's not our job or our military's job to make them be a christian nation.

[Tennesseer]

Aug 15, 2011 18:05:25 GMT -5 henryclay said:

It's always good to get the views of the other side. Here is one set of views from a WSJ piece on August 3, 1995 as expressed by Colonel Bui Tin, a staff officer for NVA General Vo Nugyen Giap, the NVA Commander in Chief.

Question: How did Hanoi intend to defeat the Americans?
Answer: By fighting a long war which would break their will to help South Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh said, "We don't need to win military victories, we only need to hit them until they give up and get out."

Q: Was the American antiwar movement important to Hanoi's victory?
A: It was essential to our strategy. Support of the war from our rear was completely secure while the American rear was vulnerable. Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9 a.m. to follow the growth of the American antiwar movement. Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda, and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and ministers gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses. We were elated when Jane Fonda, wearing a red Vietnamese dress, said at a press conference that she was ashamed of American actions in the war and that she would struggle along with us.

Q: Did the Politburo pay attention to these visits?
A: Keenly.

Q: Why?
A: Those people represented the conscience of America. The conscience of America was part of its war-making capability, and we were turning that power in our favor. America lost because of its democracy; through dissent and protest it lost the ability to mobilize a will to win.

Q: How could the Americans have won the war?
A: Cut the Ho Chi Minh trail inside Laos. If Johnson had granted [Gen. William] Westmoreland's requests to enter Laos and block the Ho Chi Minh trail, Hanoi could not have won the war.

www.viet-myths.net/BuiTin.htm

And the Montongnards are still there, but they cannot pray to a Christian God.

www.snopes.com/quotes/giap.asp

[henryclay]

Pray or proselytize?

The protests in America were by American citizens protesting what the American government was doing.

Yes, bills, that what they were doing, but whether the protests were over praying or proselizibg they got what they wanted. Except for the influx of Vietnamses kids for their chioldren's schoolmates, who have whipped the snot out of theifr own kids in the fields of education and personal growth.