Are You Going To Watch The GOP Debate Tonight?

[mmhmm]

Ish, diamonds. I didn't realize there was any secrecy as to where you lived, or I wouldn't have mentioned it. Having lived abroad for many years, I remember how I longed to be able to keep a finger on the pulse of event in the US. It's much easier now. That's really all I was saying ...

[weltschmerz]

No. I'm watching a CBC documentary "Pets on Prozac". Might be something you'd be interested in, steff.

[mmhmm]

Or me, welts. I'm considering gluing the little Siamese to the floor ... and gluing her loud mouth shut! ;D

[steff]

Aug 11, 2011 20:06:12 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

No. I'm watching a CBC documentary "Pets on Prozac". Might be something you'd be interested in, steff.

that's funny that there's a documentary about it... I didn't even know they could put them on it until Miss Meanie O.... she got a dose yesterday because she was in a mood and going after everyone....

[weltschmerz]

“Pet Pharm” is a controversial exploration of a hot topic that has a timeless edge, a character-driven story focused on North America, but also following developments in Japan, the next frontier and great untapped market for psychoactive drugs for pets, such as Prozac for puppies.

This is much more than a story about our relationship to our pets; it’s about our relationship to ourselves. “Pet Pharm” will captivate not only pet-lovers, but also a mass audience curious about who we are as a society, and what we are becoming.


www.cbc.ca/documentaries/doczone/2010/petpharmacy/

[steff]

we had hit the point of considering having to get rid of the little doggie if we couldn't get Miss O under control. Our last effort was having him fixed, which was going to be done anyway and putting her on kitty downers...

[weltschmerz]

"that's funny that there's a documentary about it... "

I LOVE CBC documentaries. They cover just about any topic under the sun, and they keep you riveted. Very well done.

[Value Buy]

I think there is already a cat lady thread available

Watching the Republican debate. Unfortunately, just too many participants.
Rommney holding his own.
Santorum basically being ignored.
Paul, is just being Paul
Herman Cain, okay, but he is no Barack Obama......although he told the moderator people have to learn to take a joke........
Oh, we have Newt Gringrich, basically being left alone to himself

Pawlenty and Bachmann, whoo boy, are they going after each other.
Winners so far?
The Minnesota duo, getting plenty of air time
imo, but stay tuned......

[steff]

Seattle 7
San Diego 10


why couldn't we have gotten a better game here??

[Value Buy]

Steff -the game is on and getting heated at the Iowa debate tonight.
Ron Paul says let Iran have the bomb.

[steff]

I'd much rather have watched the Denver/Dallas game.... and 4,000 channels and I get one game

[Value Buy]

Turn this thing on people!
This is great!

[Value Buy]

Well it is over for tonight. Great debates, it should have gone on for hours, too many contenders, not enough time.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I thought that Newt easily won the debate- performed the best. I think that speaking in broad brush strokes, Ron Paul is the candidate with whom I most agree.

[txbo]

The most honest and spoke with conviction was Ron Paul and Gingrich. The others are no more than puppets, you pull the string and it’s blah, blah , blah, bull shit.

[privateinvestor]

Here's just a few tid bits from last nights debate...sorry I missed it..



Little impact

This was the first time that Jon Huntsman, the former U.S. ambassador to China, has appeared at a debate. He hasn't campaigned in Iowa and won't be on the straw poll ballot.

Other than expressing his support for civil unions, Huntsman did little to define himself.

And Thursday may have been Newt Gingrich's swan song. Even though the former House speaker is on Saturday's straw poll ballot, his campaign nose-dived months ago after disclosures about his spending at the jewelry store Tiffany.


To read more that the SF Chronicle thinks about this debate just click on the link to this Liberal Rag..


sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/12/MNAE1KMDPK.DTL

[Driftr]

I see two votes for Newt & one for Ron above. Anyone else watch it and have an opinion who did the best?

[mmhmm]

P.I., please edit the above article to an exerpt and leave a link for people to read if they wish. We're trying to cut down on these long posts. Thanks.

mmhmm, P&M Moderator

[privateinvestor]

Aug 12, 2011 9:08:44 GMT -5 Driftr said:

I see two votes for Newt & one for Ron above. Anyone else watch it and have an opinion who did the best?

The so called Talk Radio Shows out here on the Left Coast thought that Romney did the best and Pawlenty was the worse. And Cain ought to stay with the Pizza Business, and too bad that Perry was not one of the candidates last night since he just announced his presidency and Palin is in Iowa just checking the mood of the voters so she can continue her diatribe against Obama

[privateinvestor]

Newt's most notable moments came when he battled the debate moderators, telling Fox News host Chris Wallace that Americans weren't as interested in "Mickey Mouse," inside-baseball politics issues as the media.


Newt also thinks the so called Super Committee is a farce so on these two points I have to agree with Old Newtie...



sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/12/MNAE1KMDPK.DTL

But if this all that the Republcans have to go up against Obama in 2012 they ought to pray for Texas Governor Perry to be more formidable an opponent or else despite what Bachman says we could have Obama for four more years and that will be a faith worse than death IMHO


Analysis: Perry may pose biggest threat to Romney


xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20110812/US.Republicans.2012.Analysis/

[mmhmm]

Thank you, P.I.

[maui1]

Ron Paul says let Iran have the bomb.

he said......he doesn't care if they develop nuclear power, and what they do with that power, is their business, and of no concern of ours.

question......would you want iran telling us how we should go about our business? if not, what gives us (you) the right to tell them what they can or can not do?

ron paul- also believes if iran does something to overtly signal an intention to harm any other country, then that country has every right to defend itself.

BUT IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM UNTIL WE ARE THAT COUNTRY.

who the f--- do we think we are anyway? who gives us the right to determine the right and the wrong way for any other country to live and rule?

someone tell me who/what gives us that right! an if you do, tell me why that same argument would not be the same in the reverse, with the opposite point of view?.

[maui1]

i like ron paul.

he is the only REAL change that can happen..........all the rest are just politicians saying what they think will best suit them, in their run for this public office.

[privateinvestor]

Aug 12, 2011 9:35:48 GMT -5 @maui1 said:

Ron Paul says let Iran have the bomb.

he said......he doesn't care if they develop nuclear power, and what they do with that power, is their business, and of no concern of ours.

question......would you want iran telling us how we should go about our business? if not, what gives us (you) the right to tell them what they can or can not do?

ron paul- also believes if iran does something to overtly signal an intention to harm any other country, then that country has every right to defend itself.

BUT IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM UNTIL WE ARE THAT COUNTRY.

who the f--- do we think we are anyway? who gives us the right to determine the right and the wrong way for any other country to live and rule?

someone tell me who/what gives us that right! an if you do, tell me why that same argument would not be the same in the reverse, with the opposite point of view?.

Ron Paul even though he served in the Air Force in the 60s is very anti-military and his suggestion to bring all of our troops home from all overseas countries has been his mantra for several years.

He voted NO for the first Iraq War in 1991 so you have to know where he is coming from....but I think some of his ideas to reduce our forces in Korea, Germany and the Far East may gain some momentum to save $megabucks ...but we shall see..I guess??

[privateinvestor]

someone tell me who/what gives us that right! an if you do, tell me why that same argument would not be the same in the reverse, with the opposite point of view?.


I can only relate my own time in the Marines and just went where we were told to go based on the decisions made by our Commander in Chief in concert with the Congess of the United States. And oftentimes after a few days in country we would sometimes ask a fundamental question "What the F*** are we doing in this Godforsaken Place"...

Although as part of the UN and NATO our country is committed to go whenever we are asked or directed by these two International Groups I guess??

But I personally would like to see our troops come home from Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP....ten years is enough for these two countries to stand on their own but that is easy for me to say since I am standing on the sidelines these days and just a spectator to a waste of both our human and financial resources....

[billisonboard]

Re: Perry's Election to the Presidency

I think it might be a little too soon to elect the president who will oversee the dissolution of the union, IM(not so)HO.

[privateinvestor]

Aug 12, 2011 9:45:41 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Re: Perry's Election to the Presidency

I think it might be a little too soon to elect the president who will oversee the dissolution of the union, IM(not so)HO.

You have Perry confused with Obama once again IM(not so)HO

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I think Ron Paul is correct in principle that the United States military has but one Constitutional duty: to defend America. I think on the specific issue, he is naive on Iran, and he grossly underestimates the willingness of that radical regime to unleash chaos because they're already doing it-- we need only imagine a state sponsor of terror with a nuclear weapon.

Now, that being said, his point about us starting the conflict in the first place by installing the "Sha of Iran" (and underlying that point, but not specifically mentioned- meddling in Afghanistan, allying ourselves with bin Laden and supplying what would become al qaeda with armaments and training) is definitely something to think about- I'd call it a lesson learned, but at the very least it should be something we think twice about when we are thinking next time around that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". It's something we should think about right now as we arm and train islamists in Iraq and Afghanistan. When you combine Ron Paul's point with Newt Gingrich's brilliant point about the Islamist terrorist that swore an oath the Constitution-- "I'm your enemy. I lied." -- it's amazing that Newt Gingrich can't do the math: nation building - and in particular military and security training, equipment, money, and arms to nations that aren't going to end up being our friends-- is going to bite us in the butt. 2 + 2 = 4, Newt!

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 12, 2011 9:45:41 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Re: Perry's Election to the Presidency

I think it might be a little too soon to elect the president who will oversee the dissolution of the union, IM(not so)HO.

Too late.

[billisonboard]

Aug 12, 2011 9:55:25 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Aug 12, 2011 9:45:41 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Re: Perry's Election to the Presidency

I think it might be a little too soon to elect the president who will oversee the dissolution of the union, IM(not so)HO.

You have Perry confused with Obama once again IM(not so)HO

Obama is overseeing the (close to?) final financial flame-up of the country (which started in the seventies). However, he will not be the one who oversees the dissolution of the union.

Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont#ixzz1UpLe7Zvt

Perry could well be the Gorbachev of the United States.