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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 8, 2011 10:34:20 GMT -5
I'm curious- for those saying that pantyhose are for old people- where do you live? I'm wondering if climate has something to do with it.
In our area- if you're professional woman and wearing a dress- it's standard to see hose, unless it's summer. But as someone else mentioned- it's largely due to the pasty white leg factor.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 8, 2011 10:35:20 GMT -5
I've had people tell me to tan so my legs aren't so white. There is no getting thru to them I do not tan, I go up like the human torch. I'd rather be taken for an old fart than Larry the Lobster.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 8, 2011 10:36:09 GMT -5
I'm in Phoenix - so, yeah, I have to mail-order my pantyhose.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 10:39:16 GMT -5
I'm curious- for those saying that pantyhose are for old people- where do you live? I'm wondering if climate has something to do with it. In our area- if you're professional woman and wearing a dress- it's standard to see hose, unless it's summer. But as someone else mentioned- it's largely due to the pasty white leg factor. Nope - I currently live in the South, but the same was true in the Midwest and New England. Plain or patterned tights if the weather calls for it, but plain "suntan" colored panty hose are pretty passe. For those of you who are worried about pasty skin, I think you should embrace your natural skin tone or try a self tanner. (Tanning beds and skin cancer are also passe)
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 8, 2011 10:40:40 GMT -5
I'm in chicago. If I wear skirts/dresses during fall or winter, I wear knee high boots so the only part of my skin anyone would see would be my knees. During the winter, I generally wear leggings or tights because it's cold.
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Post by cpadvisor on Jul 8, 2011 10:41:14 GMT -5
I've had people tell me to tan so my legs aren't so white. There is no getting thru to them I do not tan, I go up like the human torch. I'd rather be taken for an old fart than Larry the Lobster. spray tan... come on, get with it!!
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Jul 8, 2011 10:41:57 GMT -5
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Post by swamp on Jul 8, 2011 11:08:14 GMT -5
I'm curious- for those saying that pantyhose are for old people- where do you live? I'm wondering if climate has something to do with it. In our area- if you're professional woman and wearing a dress- it's standard to see hose, unless it's summer. But as someone else mentioned- it's largely due to the pasty white leg factor. Upstate NY. I wear pants in the winter. And I'm not really pasty. Self tanner is your friend.
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Post by kdamron on Jul 8, 2011 11:30:10 GMT -5
I'm in Dallas so except for about two days a year it's too hot for hose! In the winter we typically wear boots or tights. In the summer it's almost always bare legs.
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Post by kdamron on Jul 8, 2011 11:32:30 GMT -5
We just hired someone and most interviews were a waste of time. Clothing doesn't seem to be what I would have worn but more casual. We hired some who wore casual clothing, I don't remember what but it wasn't a business suit. Maybe we need to accept slacks and shirts or dresses for any job that will end up with casual clothing anyhow. Our new one works on a dock in and old office and can were jeans to work so why does it matter if she wore a dress instead of a suit for the interview? For the record, a dress instead of a suit wouldn't bother me in the least. I just want you to dress/look like you put a little effort in. Humor me...
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Post by swamp on Jul 8, 2011 11:51:40 GMT -5
We advertised for a receptionist position in a law office. One of the cover letters was handwritten on notebook paper, complete with the ragged edge on the left, misspellings, and Kristie signed her name with a heart over the "i"
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Post by stats45 on Jul 8, 2011 11:55:41 GMT -5
There is some nuance to the 'suit' thing though.
There was an paid internship during graduate school that myself and another student were qualified to take. I wore my normal attire (business casual with my tailored dress shirt, thin tie, and pants), and he wore a suit. His suit didn't fit exactly right, it made him look older, and I think he came off as too conservative and stodgy.
I was dressing as I would in the position (rather than above), and it worked fine. In that particular interview, I had a conversation with the HR person about my shirt that she 'loved'. I've done the same for every job or internship I've applied for and received offers a good majority of the time. I think that the rules are often confusing, and it doesn't always pay to be overly conservative.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 8, 2011 11:58:57 GMT -5
Neat beats messy most of the time. But neat and dressed properly beats neat and too casual every time.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 8, 2011 12:00:54 GMT -5
His suit didn't fit exactly right, it made him look older, and I think he came off as too conservative and stodgy.
DH did this, his mom convinced him to bororw one of his dad's suits rather than listening to me and purchasing one of his own.
HUGE difference in a suit a 75 year old man wears vs someone who is 32.
I told him it isn't just about wearing A suit, it's about wearing a suit that is age appropriate, fits and LOOKS GOOD.
He finally got embarassed enough at my work christmas party to admit it's high time he owned a proper suit.
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Post by kdamron on Jul 8, 2011 15:24:26 GMT -5
My 3:00 interview just left. SHOOT ME.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 8, 2011 15:28:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 15:38:53 GMT -5
Neat beats messy most of the time. But neat and dressed properly beats neat and too casual every time. I have a family member that was interviewing for jobs right out of college. As a typical 22 year old, he owned 1 suit. Which realistically, is about the right number to own when you are not yet gainfully employed and only wear suits to job interviews, weddings and funerals. He spilled something on himself after Monday's interview so his suit was at the dry cleaners for Tuesday's interview. He showed up in a collared shirt, dress pants and tie. The interviewer called him on it and asked why he wasn't wearing a suit. When he tried to explain, the guy wasn't charmed or understanding or anything. Needless to say, that company lost out IMHO (note: humble opinion is totally biased in favor of my family). But said family member has since become quite a clothes horse. Impressive collection of suits, ties, cuff links, etc for a guy that wears khakis and a golf shirt to work most days. I think he was scarred for life.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 8, 2011 15:43:01 GMT -5
I go out and buy a suit the night before the interview. If I get a second interview, I go buy another suit. I haven't seen anyone in a suit at work since about 1994.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Jul 8, 2011 15:44:44 GMT -5
Many years (mid '70's) ago I worked in HR (it was called Personnel back then - LOL), and had to do telephone screenings and follow-up interviews with potential candidates as well as pre-employment testing for a Fortune 500 company. Most interviewees came in dressed in a suit and tie - this was for repair techs and the job was almost exclusively male back then.
I remember one young man came in for the interview dressed in jeans and a plaid shirt. He did OK but was the kind of person who asks about pay, vacation, etc. during the initial interview, however the hiring manager insisted on interviewing him even after I told him the guy wasn't dressed appropriately and was a pain to deal with.
During the test phase, the guy kept questioning why the questions were worded the way they were, and asked lots of questions about why he was being tested for this stuff, that he already knew it and could do a great job.
The manager ended up hiring the guy against my advice, and had to fire him a few months later when it became obvious he was a royal pain in the A$$. Never ending issues, questions, "why do I have to do that?", I don't thing we should have to do it that way", and on and on.
I didn't say "I told you so!"
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Post by seriousthistime on Jul 8, 2011 18:34:21 GMT -5
Gee. This is quite an eye opener. I have a job, am applying for a lateral transfer that I am perfect for, have yet to be called for an interview (don't know if anyone has, yet) and am trying to decide, if I am called, whether to wear the grey pin stripe skirt suit or the black pantsuit. And what shoes/purse/accessories to bring because I would have to travel out of town for the interview. I may just bring both suits with the full accoutrement of accessories. Pantyhose is a must, and not the cheap grocery store kind either (unless it's under the pantsuit).
Maybe I shouldn't be so surprised after all. Most job postings for my position specify that they require professional demeanor and attire. I was surprised that needed to be specified.
On the other hand, my son has a professional (i.e. BA degree) job in the arts, and he says that anyone who shows up for an interview in a suit and tie screams loud and clear that he or she doesn't know how to dress the part. But the interview process is itself sort of an artistic expression that gives a clue about the work environment - professional artists dealing with business people in a fast-paced "ahead of the curve" situation. If you read about the interview process and show up in a suit and tie, you are plainly not going to work well "ahead of the curve."
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Post by kdamron on Jul 11, 2011 9:42:10 GMT -5
I'm a paralegal - hot climate-no hose, no tats, no piercings, "normal" paralegal. Yes, this is exactly what I'm looking for!!! Do you need a job? As to skirt suit or pantsuit, I really don't mind either. It's more about polish if that makes sense. Look good. Look put together. I don't automatically dismiss someone for nice slacks and a good top, its just about looking put together. I have to hire people that will be in court and a professional demeanor matters.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 11, 2011 9:54:44 GMT -5
On the other hand, my son has a professional (i.e. BA degree) job in the arts, and he says that anyone who shows up for an interview in a suit and tie screams loud and clear that he or she doesn't know how to dress the part
That's part of why I switched to a pants suit. In the lab I must wear pants/skirts down to my ankles and closed toed shoes. I figured if I wore long pants/closed toed shoes to the interview it'd send the signal that I already know how to dress the part.
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Post by kdamron on Jul 11, 2011 10:13:30 GMT -5
On the other hand, my son has a professional (i.e. BA degree) job in the arts, and he says that anyone who shows up for an interview in a suit and tie screams loud and clear that he or she doesn't know how to dress the partThat's part of why I switched to a pants suit. In the lab I must wear pants/skirts down to my ankles and closed toed shoes. I figured if I wore long pants/closed toed shoes to the interview it'd send the signal that I already know how to dress the part.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2011 10:26:53 GMT -5
Am I the only one who has sweaty feet? I cannot wear dress shoes without some type of stocking (even if it is only the little footy ones. If I don't my feet sweat, I get blisters, and then my shoes smell. Damn... at 35 I'm destined to look old. Leave at least one day between times you wear the shoes. The smell is bacteria. If the shoes dry out completely bacteria doesn't grow. Also get the spongie insoles. You can remove them for drying and your feet won't slip in the shoe so much.
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Post by cubefarmer on Jul 11, 2011 10:43:39 GMT -5
kdamron - I'm pretty content where I am working right now - plenty of work to make my days go by fast and I am allowed to work from home. We had some paralegal openings recently and I couldn't get any of my paralegal buddies to budge out of their current gigs. I think there is a demand for the 4 year degree/ABA cert/experienced paralegals where we live.
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Post by Clever Username on Jul 11, 2011 12:51:15 GMT -5
Thank you for dressing so well for your interview. By "so well" I mean "so well that I can spend our interview updating facebook while I encourage you to expound dramatically using open ended questions."
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