muttleynfelix
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jul 1, 2011 9:26:02 GMT -5
no, job hopping in itself doesn't make you a bad person. i didn't mean that in any way. i guess the few people that we have met who aren't in a stable job environment aren't really that way in a lot of areas. change jobs, trade cars every year, aren't satisfied in anything. so you are hesitant to ask them to be a PTA worker, scout leader, church class teacher, sports coach, babysitter, volunteer worker, etc.. because you wonder if they say 'yes' will they call you in a few weeks and then say 'no' and they leave you scrambling to find a replacement. Here's the thing, life happens. My DH ended up "job hopping" as you put it one year. He'd spent 5.5 years with one company and they were going downhill in a hurry. So, he left and his new company had a big upheaval and decided to no longer have an office in our town with no option to transfer (not that he would have, but it was not presented to ANYONE employed there). So, on to company #3 within 2 months. Not what he was planning or we were planning. Your husband's rep is what it is. It isn't going to change because he found his new company was not a good fit for him. He stayed with his previous company for 30 years!! Most people are going to recognize that and not the poor fit on the new company.
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Tiny
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Post by Tiny on Jul 1, 2011 9:30:45 GMT -5
Wow. I've been salaried since I started working back in the mid 80's and every job has always included doing overtime. there was one job where I was paid for 35 hours a week where I was considered NOT doing my job if I worked 40 or less hours. The benefits were not that great and it was a terrible work environment (alot of time wasting when necessary to get in enough face time...). As for how much stress being so attached to the office will be depends on what the employer expects and the amount of actual stuff you can do when 'on call'. I've been on call 7/24 and maybe gotten 2 calls over the course of a year. I easily handled the calls over the phone and was done with it. But, then I also had one job we had a department Pager that someone had to baby sit each weekend... I distinctly remember being at an important family function and being paged. I made the call back - and the problem was there was no paper in the printer. I was speechless. The person wanted me to commute an hour to the office to put paper in his printer. I became angry. I spent 15 minutes (I'm NOT joking) talking him thru the steps to get more paper (the copy room) and and putting into the printer. I think the guy complained to my manager. That was the day I realized just how horrible that job was and the day I lost any and all loyalty to my employer - which also carried over to future employers. On the other hand, I had a salaried job (for 35 hours a week) where I got paid for any hours OVER 40 hours. I had a project manager who was so anal rententive that in the 11th hour she needed boatloads of documentation re printed and copied and I got to do it. I got paid a BOATLOAD of overtime money to print and make 10 copies of several ginormous reports. I actually didn't mind that... Meant to add: My definition of Salaried has always been Slave Labor. You get paid to do your job and if it takes 90 hours a week (or your employer makes it so it takes 90 hours a week) then thats what you do.
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happyscooter
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Post by happyscooter on Jul 1, 2011 9:36:30 GMT -5
i will give him different perspectives. #$% why can't we win the lottery?
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happyscooter
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Post by happyscooter on Jul 1, 2011 9:37:43 GMT -5
i take that back. we have already won the lottery. house paid for several years now, good dependable cars, great children and great children's spouses, excellent health. we have hit the jackpot!
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Post by stl76 on Jul 1, 2011 9:37:53 GMT -5
"So, if i want to have one job or 100, or i want to work for 6 months and quit for 6 months or whatever else isn't anyone's business but my own."
You are right, it is only your business. But look at it from the employer's point of view. Who would want to hire someone who will work for 6 months and quit for 6 months, if they are looking for a stable employee? And most companies are looking for people who will stick around unless they are looking for specifically a seasonal employee. Even if you change your mind and decide to look for something permanent, if you have a job hopping history, it may go against you...
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Phoenix84
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jul 1, 2011 10:31:33 GMT -5
At my job I'm "technically" hourly. If the government wants me to work over 40 hours a week they need to pay overtime or give me comp time. Even though I work in a professional position. In practice though the agency never pays overtime so if I end up working late (it does happen) I just take comp time.
I say "technically" because it's not like i'm a server or retail clerk. I work a straight 40 hour work week and the same schedule every pay period. My pay is determined by my grade. I don't clock in and out but instead have to do a time card every two weeks.
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 1, 2011 10:41:05 GMT -5
I've had a salaried job for a long time. But it's pretty cushy. It's the understanding that you do what you need to do when you need to do it. So during the busy season, you work overtime. But during the off season, they don't mind if you leave early.
DH also has a salaried job for a place that runs 24/7. He is on call all the time and has a boss (not his direct report but the one above) that thinks they need to be available 24/7. He had to go in once Christmas Eve at about 11:00. That ticked me off. But he finally had two instances that made them lighted up. First the upper boss was bitching him out for not answering his phone. He told her that unless she wanted to buy him a new phone everyday, she was going to have to get over it because he wasn't going to take it in the shower with him. He said this in front of an Exec (her boss) so things started to lighten up. But the clincher was when we were on vacation. He gets a call from one of the managers demanding that he come in "right now" to solve a problem. He told the guy he was going to have to be patient while he caught a plane back. Miracle of all miracles- they figured it out for themselves. Things have been much better since.
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muttleynfelix
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jul 1, 2011 10:47:23 GMT -5
"So, if i want to have one job or 100, or i want to work for 6 months and quit for 6 months or whatever else isn't anyone's business but my own." You are right, it is only your business. But look at it from the employer's point of view. Who would want to hire someone who will work for 6 months and quit for 6 months, if they are looking for a stable employee? And most companies are looking for people who will stick around unless they are looking for specifically a seasonal employee. Even if you change your mind and decide to look for something permanent, if you have a job hopping history, it may go against you... We aren't talking about someone who is in their early 30s who has never stayed a job longer than 6 months. We are talking about someone who has retired from one job already. That is what I don't understand about the concern for the "reputation". He's obviously old enough he doesn't need to put up with the sh!t so why should he for the sake of a reputation that isn't going to be damaged by one move. JMO
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Post by commentator on Jul 1, 2011 12:55:34 GMT -5
Another outstanding answer by mwcpa!
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Post by happyscooter on Jul 4, 2011 6:12:55 GMT -5
Well, we talked. He told his boss we had plans for the weekend and he would get his work done on Friday. DH likes the company and the money is alot better than the part time gig. He would also be kept hopping by his dad if he took the part time job. Not that he shouldn't help out FIL, but FIL would find something for him to do every day if he knew DH was at home, reading a book, watching a movie, etc... It just would have been better if the 24/7 demands wouldn't have started this summer. Too many weekend trips to go on.
Again, thanks for all of your comments. There were pros and cons to both jobs/companies. It was good to get some outside perspective.
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