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Post by lakhota on Jun 18, 2011 2:04:33 GMT -5
Republican New York State Senator Roy McDonald has SHATTERED party lines in support of gay marriage -- telling reporters, "F**k it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing." The battle rages on in New York to legalize gay marriage -- but McDonald threw his hat in the ring earlier this week ... with the greatest statement of all time, claiming, "You get to the point where you evolve in your life where everything isn't black and white, good and bad, and you try to do the right thing." "You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing." "I'm tired of Republican-Democrat politics. They can take the job and shove it. I come from a blue-collar background. I'm trying to do the right thing, and that's where I'm going with this." With McDonald's support, the gay marriage bill is only ONE vote shy of being made into law -- which would make New York the sixth state to legalize gay marriage. www.tmz.com/2011/06/17/republican-senator-roy-mcdonald-new-york-gay-marriage-bill-f-it-right-thing-quote/
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Post by lakhota on Jun 18, 2011 2:08:01 GMT -5
I'm impressed and would like to know more about this man.
His plainspoken honesty is a thing of beauty.
He evolved...
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 18, 2011 7:13:14 GMT -5
Republican New York State Senator Roy McDonald has SHATTERED party lines in support of gay marriage -- telling reporters, "F**k it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing." The battle rages on in New York to legalize gay marriage -- but McDonald threw his hat in the ring earlier this week ... with the greatest statement of all time, claiming, "You get to the point where you evolve in your life where everything isn't black and white, good and bad, and you try to do the right thing." "You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f**k it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing." "I'm tired of Republican-Democrat politics. They can take the job and shove it. I come from a blue-collar background. I'm trying to do the right thing, and that's where I'm going with this." With McDonald's support, the gay marriage bill is only ONE vote shy of being made into law -- which would make New York the sixth state to legalize gay marriage. www.tmz.com/2011/06/17/republican-senator-roy-mcdonald-new-york-gay-marriage-bill-f-it-right-thing-quote/We agree , Lakhotas. Never heard of him before , probably never will again...but as some here have gushed over certain newbies from a speech or two...well, me too. I like him, think he'd make a great POTUS...F it , he's my kind of Politico.. ;D " EXTRA, EXTRA..get your Paapaa heya..NY Senator says "F it " Read all about him, paapaa heya " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_McDonald_(politician)
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 18, 2011 8:31:02 GMT -5
I find it ironic that gays are trying so hard for state sponsored marriage. I think the government should be OUT of the marriage business. The marriage license doesn't have the most positive history. Try looking into it some time and you'll discover we don't want to have to get permission to marry from government.
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Post by cereb on Jun 18, 2011 10:41:34 GMT -5
Nice.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 18, 2011 12:48:43 GMT -5
I find it ironic that gays are trying so hard for state sponsored marriage. I think the government should be OUT of the marriage business. The marriage license doesn't have the most positive history. Try looking into it some time and you'll discover we don't want to have to get permission to marry from government. Agreed. Get the laws out of our lives. If someone wants to marry, let them have a marriage contract between the two of them that defines the rights and duties within, as well as what happens in the case of a dissolution (including child custody). I would NEVER get married in this society where its laws would let an abusive and cheating wife steal my assets, home, future income, and most importantly my children even though I was not at fault. There's a few big reasons why marriage is on the decline and the above is a huge one. The big wigs are trying to spin this as the economy but that's just nonsense: people have gotten married in tough times before and indeed tough times can even lead to marriages to unite two weaker financial forces into a stronger, united one. Or families would marry off their daughters to make sure they had a provider in tough times. Marriage as defined today has been so broken that, while I still do not think that gays should marry, marriage between a man and a woman has been so devalued that allowing gays to marry can't make it that much worse. That said, one must realize that gay marriage is a sham: in states where it has been passed, the marriage rates among gays are VERY low, as in single digit. There is no horde of gays desiring to be married and thus it gives credence, to me at least, that this is more about tearing down marriage. Why, I have no idea, except that gays are just jealous. Heck, as some comedians says: "sure gays should marry. They have the same right to be miserable as the rest of us!"
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 12:51:34 GMT -5
If gays are not anyway going to get married, then why are conservatives so upset about gay marriage?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 18, 2011 13:16:04 GMT -5
I find it ironic that gays are trying so hard for state sponsored marriage. I think the government should be OUT of the marriage business. The marriage license doesn't have the most positive history. Try looking into it some time and you'll discover we don't want to have to get permission to marry from government. Agreed. Get the laws out of our lives. If someone wants to marry, let them have a marriage contract between the two of them that defines the rights and duties within, as well as what happens in the case of a dissolution (including child custody). I would NEVER get married in this society where its laws would let an abusive and cheating wife steal my assets, home, future income, and most importantly my children even though I was not at fault. There's a few big reasons why marriage is on the decline and the above is a huge one. The big wigs are trying to spin this as the economy but that's just nonsense: people have gotten married in tough times before and indeed tough times can even lead to marriages to unite two weaker financial forces into a stronger, united one. Or families would marry off their daughters to make sure they had a provider in tough times. Marriage as defined today has been so broken that, while I still do not think that gays should marry, marriage between a man and a woman has been so devalued that allowing gays to marry can't make it that much worse. That said, one must realize that gay marriage is a sham: in states where it has been passed, the marriage rates among gays are VERY low, as in single digit. There is no horde of gays desiring to be married and thus it gives credence, to me at least, that this is more about tearing down marriage. Why, I have no idea, except that gays are just jealous. Heck, as some comedians says: "sure gays should marry. They have the same right to be miserable as the rest of us!" You bring up a interesting point ameiko...I'll go along with your " the marriage rates among gays are VERY low, as in single digit. " why not, and I have a thought. Possible they are more careful in their decisions to do so, marriage committment, make that commitment. I lived in a building, 1880 Down Town Brown Stone , for 13 years, 80 apts , neatest place, and Gays were say 30 % of the buiklding No I am straight, but it was a close community, very artist prone, talented fun folk..the old and the young, no not me as a artest type, [stayedn on the side lines in participation] and I know that the Gay life style for many, kinda loose.i We straights at the time too in our dating habits but no comparison. A few were in long term rlationshuips, but not many, and I bring this up as being a experienced one, with the community, socialized, in their homes, mine, cooked with them for gatherings, going out..went to some gay bars with dates, great music to dance by..so not a innocent / neophyte, with the life style.. Just possible when they do make such a committment it is done in a more seriouse and thought full way then the hetorosexual couple. Just a thought. Actually , I commented about this particuler State Representative [Senator], I just liked his style, then found out by the Wicki, a 1st Cav veteran from my time in..only more kudo's to him..POTUS material if I ever saw one. ;D
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Post by lakhota on Jun 19, 2011 21:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 19, 2011 22:19:21 GMT -5
Need a few, two more pubs me think..or if it is tied does the Lt Governor get to break the tie like in our Senate..?
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 19, 2011 22:50:45 GMT -5
The only news here is how little liberals understand the new direction in conservative politics. I'm not at all surprised at their lack of perception.
Perhaps I should better say 'their apparent lack of perception'.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 19, 2011 23:17:55 GMT -5
That said, one must realize that gay marriage is a sham: in states where it has been passed, the marriage rates among gays are VERY low, as in single digit. There is no horde of gays desiring to be married and thus it gives credence, to me at least, that this is more about tearing down marriage. Why, I have no idea, except that gays are just jealous. Heck, as some comedians says: "sure gays should marry. They have the same right to be miserable as the rest of us!" Maybe the reason most gays don't wish to be married is because they have seen the emotional, physical and especially financial damage of divorce.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 23:22:43 GMT -5
I'm trying to do the right thing."
I'm shocked that any politician is able to say "I'm trying to do the right thing." It's about time & hopefully they will soon ok gay marriages.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 19, 2011 23:27:08 GMT -5
I'm trying to do the right thing."I'm shocked that any politician is able to say "I'm trying to do the right thing." It's about time & hopefully they will soon ok gay marriages. You know a union of two people is so damn personal, and why it is any of my business is just beyond me, possible tyhas the middle to the left in me..just none of my concern..
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Post by lakhota on Jun 25, 2011 0:12:57 GMT -5
Thank you, Sir, for doing the right thing. It passed, in no small part thanks to you.
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 25, 2011 6:12:25 GMT -5
Politicians often are misguided.
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 25, 2011 9:07:37 GMT -5
Politicians often are misguided. Why not? They should be representing the people. Look how many misguided posters we have on this very board. Like it or not, they deserve representation. Sad, but true. Our politicians are the least common denominator of ourselves. To think otherwise is pollyanna-ish.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 25, 2011 9:41:20 GMT -5
Politicians often are misguided. Why not? They should be representing the people. Look how many misguided posters we have on this very board. Like it or not, they deserve representation. Sad, but true. Our politicians are the least common denominator of ourselves. To think otherwise is pollyanna-ish. How many misguided posters do we have on this very board??? Care to let us know who they are so that we can try to guide them all in the right direction...go for it.. BTW I was just informed we lost one of our awesome members here recently because he didn't like being taunted, heckled, or insulted on a daily basis... not a good thing IMHO
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 25, 2011 9:47:14 GMT -5
Politicians often are misguided. Why not? They should be representing the people. Look how many misguided posters we have on this very board. Like it or not, they deserve representation. Sad, but true. Our politicians are the least common denominator of ourselves. To think otherwise is pollyanna-ish. Reminds me of Nixon's nominee to the Supreme Court: In defense against charges that Carswell was "mediocre", U.S. Senator Roman Hruska (Republican, Nebraska) stated:
"Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos."[3][4] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Harrold_Carswell
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 25, 2011 11:25:04 GMT -5
I really admire this guy's moxie. He's standing up for what he feels is the right thing to do. It's not often one sees a politician who'll do that. While I'd not heard of him before, he's one to watch as I see it. I'll be seeking more information about him.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 25, 2011 11:27:51 GMT -5
I really admire this guy's moxie. He's standing up for what he feels is the right thing to do. It's not often one sees a politician who'll do that. While I'd not heard of him before, he's one to watch as I see it. I'll be seeking more information about him. Agreed mmhmm.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 25, 2011 11:58:14 GMT -5
Republican New York State Senator Roy McDonald has SHATTERED party lines in support of gay marriage -- telling reporters, "F**k it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing
Is McDonald gay?? Or maybe he is one of those repressed homophobics?? Whatever that is??
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 25, 2011 12:43:21 GMT -5
I think in this case..just a State Senator..not going any where else..just my opinion..but his straight talk on the subject..was refreshing even at the level of giovernment he is in...and it seems he may just have said enough, in the correct vernaculear to persuade a few, all it needed to feel the same way, to pass this piece of legislature, and for me, why not, who am I, as I said, to get involved in the personals of two adults, there are things the State should be involved in, this , IMHO, is one of the least of them.
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 25, 2011 16:20:59 GMT -5
Our misguided representatives stopped representing "we the people" a long time ago, and now only cater to special interests.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 25, 2011 17:59:41 GMT -5
this was one hell of a campaign to get this passed. it was fought hard and well, and is a lesson for both liberals and conservatives on how to form coalitions to get the kind of change you want.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 25, 2011 18:13:58 GMT -5
this was one hell of a campaign to get this passed. it was fought hard and well, and is a lesson for both liberals and conservatives on how to form coalitions to get the kind of change you want. Agreed, and with much support from a sane Democrat Governor.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 25, 2011 18:27:01 GMT -5
this was one hell of a campaign to get this passed. it was fought hard and well, and is a lesson for both liberals and conservatives on how to form coalitions to get the kind of change you want. Agreed, and with much support from a sane Democrat Governor. it is actually a model of democratic action. getting 4 Republicans to break ranks to pass it was the kind of achievement i would like to see from Obama.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jun 25, 2011 18:37:32 GMT -5
If gays are not anyway going to get married, then why are conservatives so upset about gay marriage? I have a lot of conservative friends who don't give a rats ass whether or not gays marry...don't paint all conservatives with the same brush
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