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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 20:10:06 GMT -5
"I support intelligent design," Bachmann told reporters in New Orleans following her speech to the Republican Leadership Conference. "What I support is putting all science on the table and then letting students decide. I don't think it's a good idea for government to come down on one side of scientific issue or another, when there is reasonable doubt on both sides."  |
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 17, 2011 20:12:30 GMT -5
Evolved or designed, what's the problem?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 20:13:56 GMT -5
The idea that 'intelligent design' is science...
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 20:14:26 GMT -5
Intelligent Design makes US education the laughing stock in the world. Thank goodness my son doesn't go to public schools.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 20:17:13 GMT -5
lol tough...
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Post by lakhota on Jun 17, 2011 20:32:25 GMT -5
10 Of The Craziest Things Michele Bachmann Has Ever Said(3) BACHMANN CLAIMED THAT SCIENTISTS ARE SUPPORTERS OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN: During a 2006 debate, Bachmann said, “There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.” This was, and is, not true. More: thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/16/246618/bachmann-craziest-quotes/
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 20:46:19 GMT -5
Bachmann is tailor made for SNL though.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 17, 2011 20:48:48 GMT -5
I've been watching Bachmann closely lately, and she seems to be doing a pretty good job of covering up her CRAZY self. I'm waiting for her CRAZY self to return. It's just a matter of time...
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Post by cereb on Jun 17, 2011 21:22:59 GMT -5
Yes, it worked so well in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Government decided that they liked a quack variant of evolution that ignored every established principal of classic genetics. To that end they pursued a suicidal agricultural policy that caused starvation in the Soviet Union for a 50 year period. Countless scientists were sent to the gulag for disagreeing. science.jrank.org/pages/49237/Lysenko-affair.htmlScience is not a government policy PERIOD. Liking or preferring one set of facts over another is irrelevant. The science is either correct or not and refusing to validate it through experimentation makes it useless and invalid. Make no mistake, this mentality will create no end of heartache.  |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 21:23:01 GMT -5
We should put two theories in front the kids always, e.g., the sun revolves round the earth or vice versa, the earth is flat vs. round, what have you, and let the students decide.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 21:35:05 GMT -5
We should bring back leeches in place of modern medication, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 21:43:10 GMT -5
 (  ... is Ratchets serious?... ) |
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Post by lakhota on Jun 17, 2011 21:44:15 GMT -5
We should bring back leeches in place of modern medication, too. Oh, and a good old-fashioned bloodletting at the ole barber shop. That would be good... Remember that's what the striped barber pole signified.  The origin of the red and white barber pole is associated with the service of bloodletting and was historically a representation of bloody bandages wrapped around a pole.[2] During medieval times, barbers performed surgery on customers, as well as tooth extractions. The original pole had a brass wash basin at the top (representing the vessel in which leeches were kept) and bottom (representing the basin that received the blood). The pole itself represents the staff that the patient gripped during the procedure to encourage blood flow. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber's_pole |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 21:44:27 GMT -5
I think he is.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 17, 2011 21:58:25 GMT -5
"I support intelligent design," Bachmann told reporters in New Orleans following her speech to the Republican Leadership Conference. "What I support is putting all science on the table and then letting students decide. I don't think it's a good idea for government to come down on one side of scientific issue or another, when there is reasonable doubt on both sides." The more I read that the scarier it sounds. The woman truly is nuts. All theocrats scare me. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 22:01:19 GMT -5
But didn't the good lord say that a woman's place is at home?
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 22:02:06 GMT -5
Ratchets is not the only one. I know a woman who, when discussing her latest theories says, "What do doctor's know?" Well, what do you know. I have sat in classes taught by a cancer sufferer and listened as ignoramus after ignoramus urged him to abandon his course of treatment for their latest hair-brained concept. I have suffered on and off for years from a very rare eye disease that affects 10 people in a million. I cannot tell you how many people offer me remedies seconds after hearing the name of the illness for the first time, and they too demand I ignore the board-certified neuro-ophthalmologist. Not only does expertise count for nothing in this country, it is actively despised. That's why the conservative base doesn't like Romney. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 22:09:59 GMT -5
It's not that they are against science, it is that they are just plain dumb.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 17, 2011 22:15:28 GMT -5
Here's the really scary part for me: Many of these people can sound very normal and very intelligent - then all of a sudden here comes the crazy shit. Strange...
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Post by cereb on Jun 17, 2011 22:20:37 GMT -5
Here's the really scary part for me: Many of these people can sound very normal and very intelligent - then all of a sudden here comes the crazy shit. Strange... Amazing isn't it? |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 23:32:51 GMT -5
Anyone can ACT normal, but truth is like syphilis, it will be out sooner or later.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 17, 2011 23:52:21 GMT -5
When I use the word "scary" about some of these GOP candidates, I generally mean it in the Halloween sense. However, here is what actually does "really" scare me: That one of these GOP extremists can cloak their insane ideology long enough to be elected president.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 17, 2011 23:56:42 GMT -5
I doubt that. I think Bush II was the worst we could get.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 18, 2011 0:06:43 GMT -5
I doubt that. I think Bush II was the worst we could get. Yeah, I keep telling myself that; however, Obama has created a new paradigm which could lift one of these GOP dregs like Bachmann to the surface. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 0:25:53 GMT -5
Oh, i am definately NOT what you would call a Bush fan... but i think Bauchman would be worse. Her ideology, and the zelousness with which she embracess it... it could be be so, so much worse...
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 18, 2011 10:25:56 GMT -5
... Not only does expertise count for nothing in this country, it is actively despised. I used to be a teacher of special ed students. We were supposed to hold these multi-disciplinary team meetings. I used to be accused of not being a "team player" when I would say something like, "Why have a meeting on a treatment plan, she is the expert on "X" so let's just go with her recommendation and be done?" |
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Post by cereb on Jun 18, 2011 10:43:19 GMT -5
Heck yeah I'm serious. That's one of the freedoms our country was founded on - I would much prefer to live ina country where you have the right to choose which faith you want to belong too (or no faith). I see that as a good thing. For all the folks who disagree with that, here's a question. Which faith would be your "national religion?" None. There should not be any "national religion". read your Constitution. |
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Post by cereb on Jun 18, 2011 10:48:20 GMT -5
"well I am actually seeing the problem - the problem is a few agnostic liberals want to slam a religious conservative, not because her views are wrong...but because they don't agree with her."
No, it's because she is flat out wrong.Theory of Intelligent Design is not science in any way shape or form. It is a religious concept and should never be taught in a science class,
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 18, 2011 10:51:01 GMT -5
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Post by cereb on Jun 18, 2011 10:53:18 GMT -5
"Funny how you people poopoo intelligent design but embrace the pseudo-scientific religion of Gaia."
Funny how that isn't true either.
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